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#50641 Phantom_999

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Posted Today, 11:32 AM

Oh  the American fan base WASN'T a factor, actually. The More I think about it, the American fan base or any pro NH fan in general was actually just a means to an end. Kishimoto was not convinced to change Hinata to being "THE heroine", BUT MANY male members of the Naruto anime team and and ALMOST ALL OF of his post- Yahagi editors want their self insert Naruto Uzumaki to boink the precious, shy, big kittens, innocent and pure girl Hinata Hyuga that was always "into him", so they gathered the opinions of like-minded masses as "evidence and data".

 

They wanted a method to make Hinata the dream girl of the Main character because they want to vicariously "make love" to her in canon without shame or are SO socially inept at real life relationships that  they think Hinata is the obvious option as a wife because she is easy to obtain without effort because they don't see that love is something that is nurtured and developed. it starts small but gradually grows by communication, trust and compromise. They feel that Naruto trying to earn Sakura's love is a "chore" because she does not immediately reciprocate and was pining after the cool sexy mysterious bad boy, when all sources of the story indicate that Sakura was starting to understand that she knew nothing of Sasuke at all and that his actions and choices are breaking her heart, so she can not accept who he was at the mid way point and beyond of Part II in the story. At the same time her friendship with the boy that she always looked down on and insulted was blossoming and growing into a mature and stable relationship with the occasional childish banter still being there. That she is always touched by how warm and compassionate that village pariah is, not to mention that he is selfless and loyal to a fault with his friends, which that is changing something in her too. The makings of a great romance were all there but in the end it was thrown out the window for the "easy way."

 

That is something that truly disgusts me. That the NH and SS relationships' themes are about the easy way to obtain romance through "entitlement" and "first love" rather than showing a solid friendship and mutual understanding. That the romance is about whom loved whom first rather than showing a couple that grows closer by spending time with each other by choice, talking about happy and sad times alike, can always be "themselves" around each other without putting on a mask or pretend to be someone they are not, and can have arguments or disagreements but do not let that destroy their bond. So of course true love is who you are entitled to and they have to be broken down or brainwashed into loving you back, That is what NH and SS is shown to be with all Post chapter 700 material. And the idiots that are hypnotized and entranced By Hinata's H+ cups eat it up like pudding  :yucky:


Edited by Phantom_999, Today, 06:02 PM.

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#50642 HalfDemonInuyasha

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Posted Today, 05:30 PM

Oh  the American fan base WASN'T a factor, actually. The More I think about it, the American fan base or any pro NH fan in general was actually just a means to an end. Kishimoto was not convinced to change Hinata to being "THE heroine", BUT MANY male members of the Naruto anime team and and ALMOST ALL OF of his post- Yahagi editors want their self insert Naruto Uaumaki to boink the precious, shy big kittens, innocent and pure girl Hinata Hyuga that was always "into him", so they gathered the opinions of like-minded masses as "evidence and data".

 

They wanted a method to make Hinata the dream girl of the Main character because they want to vicariously "make love" to her in canon without shame or are SO socially inept at real life relationships that  they think Hinata is the obvious option as a wife because she is easy to obtain without effort because they don't see that love is something that is nurtured and developed. it starts small but gradually grows by communication, trust and compromise. They feel that Naruto trying to earn Sakura's love is a "chore" because she does not immediately reciprocate and was pining after the cool sexy mysterious bad boy, when all sources of the story indicate that Sakura was starting to understand that she knew nothing of Sasuke at all and that his actions and choices are breaking her heart, so she can not accept who he was at the mid way point and beyond of Part II in the story. At the same time her friendship with the boy that she always looked down on and insulted was blossoming and growing into a mature and stable relationship with the occasional childish banter still being there. That she is always touched by how warm and compassionate that village pariah is, not to mention that he is selfless and loyal to a fault to his friends, which that is changing something in her too. the makings of a great romance were all there but in the end it was thrown out the window for the "easy way."

 

That is something that truly disgusts me. That the NH and SS relationships' themes are about the easy way to obtain romance through "entitlement" and "first love" rather than showing a solid friendship and mutual understanding. That the romance is about whom loved whom first rather than showing a couple that grows closer by spending time with each other by choice, talking about happy and sad times alike, can always be "themselves" around each other without putting on a mask or pretend to be someone they are not, and can arguments or disagreements but do not let that destroy their bond. So of course true love is who you are entitled to and they have to be broken down or brainwashed into loving you back, That is what NH and SS is shown to be with all Post chapter 700 material. And the idiots that are hypnotized and entranced By Hinata's H+ cups eat it up like pudding  :yucky:

And what makes it worse is how those same people don't even bother trying to hide the complete hypocrisy with their excuses.

Like saying Sakura would be a "terrible woman" if she moved on from Sasuke and yet they make no mention of Ino with Sai, or even Boruto's dad himself to Hinatatas.


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#50643 Bryon_Konoha_Ninja

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Posted Today, 06:35 PM

And what makes it worse is how those same people don't even bother trying to hide the complete hypocrisy with their excuses.

Like saying Sakura would be a "terrible woman" if she moved on from Sasuke and yet they make no mention of Ino with Sai, or even Boruto's dad himself to Hinatatas.

 

It's not like they care; they just want their pairings to  matter even when they know they don't.



#50644 Bail o' Lies

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Posted Today, 11:17 PM

Look at the Last. The ultimate perfect love story that SP wrote. Now look at Naruto's rival for Hinata's love. Some random loser that lives on the moon (neet/hikimori) that decides to destroy the world after something was stolen from his family years ago (petty) which as a duty his clan was suppose to guard(incompetent), yet he only does this years after the situation was resolved (lazy), when he leaves the moon he instantly want to marry the first girl he meets which he believes is part of an ancient prophecy, who is supposedly a goddess princess, yet she is already madly eternally in love with another guy, so he has to kidnap her, and brain-wash her in order to even get her to the alter.

 

And this guy is the greatest enemy Naruto shall ever face? This loser? Why yes, according to SP.






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