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[Catra]

exactly. i find it criminal how they give shinachiku gutsy naruto's hair just to keep this....thing with naruto's name's look. what an abomination. i spit on it.

Edited by Catra, 16 December 2015 - 11:59 PM.

[Liu bie]

NS stuff to the order. Looks like the manga wants keep going without us, it never did something for us after the ending or it never care and now we don't care either, well at least we care about fanon to do things like this:

 

 

 

 

By; http://dreaming-of-s...3767648/oh-yeah

Edited by Liu bie, 21 December 2015 - 02:54 PM.

[Uzumaki9000]

Who missed me?

 

[Nostradamus]

Who missed me?

 

You still alive?

Good.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

Who missed me?

 

*crickets*

XD
 

[TheFirstEvil100]

 

Nothing like NaruSaku I say personally cause well they didn't develop any friendship before marrying but stil an INFINITELYbetter done couple than the trash with no soul we got at the end of kittening Naruto. I've said this before but even though Toriyama said he doesn't feel he is any good with romance no showed any interest i writing it he did  WAY better job then those boned-headed idiots at SP   

That is true its the same with many others as well like Pokeshipping for me some are a hit or they are not but I think I said this before pokemon fans hate when a NH fan comes onto there art and start saying that its just like NH or SS it does get the pokemon fans very angry I hear.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

The thing is with Toriyama is that he never mislead his fandom. I think he introduced future Trunks before the present trunks was born during the Cell saga. That was his way of saying that he could not do romance and just give the entire fandom a major hint what to expect in the future because he needed another Saiyan. That's why he was excused from making VB pairing canon.

[TheFirstEvil100]

The thing is with Toriyama is that he never mislead his fandom. I think he introduced future Trunks before the present trunks was born during the Cell saga. That was his way of saying that he could not do romance and just give the entire fandom a major hint what to expect in the future because he needed another Saiyan. That's why he was excused from making VB pairing canon.

And it worked as well and unlike SS which I know love to use VB pairing both Vegeta and Bulma care for each othe as well I mean that says a lot when you think about it.

 

what I hate is how they are now saying Bolt and Sarada are going to be like Gohan and Videl.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

And it worked as well and unlike SS which I know love to use VB pairing both Vegeta and Bulma care for each othe as well I mean that says a lot when you think about it.

 

what I hate is how they are now saying Bolt and Sarada are going to be like Gohan and Videl.

 

 More like NS 2.0. WHo wants to read a NS 2.0 in a NH/SS lala land, managed by Hinata wanking fanboys?

[VanitasDS76491]

 A couple questions how many people did Naruto let die because of his obsession with Sasuke?

 

To me everything that happened was because of Hashirama, Tobirama, Hizuren, Naruto, Danzo, Kakashi, Sakura and Tsunade. So everyone that has die in Naruto were because of them and only several of them payed for it.

 

I found that Sakura's confession was actually true but was mishandled like you said Ino should have been and smacked Naruto after Sakura left or she could have kissed Naruto right there or talked to him alone.

 

Also the Kaguya thing was mishandled too but the idea of her was interesting. If they had shown her early and had her be the main villain of the series that would be fine, they could have done it like Power Rangers Lightspeed Rescue did with Queen Bansheera. That would make more sense then having the useless Zetsus one-shot Madara like a kitten and he turns into Kaguya which how the hell did that even work.

 

You Naruto needed more villains that just wanted the world to burn so you want someone like The Joker, Thanos, Kefka, Makarov form Modern Warfare 2&3, or anyone i'm forgetting.

 

How stupid do you think Naruto really is cause just looking at his encounter with Obito, the who killed his parents made his life a living hell, screwed with his cousin Nagato and his two friends(Konan and Yahiko), messed with Sasuke, started a war over a girl, committed genocide twice that let to Neji's death and he has the right to call him the most awesome guy ever when what 50 chapters before that he wanted to kill Obtio just cause him also wanted to be Hokage ya kittening right Naruto this is why I say your bad at making decision cause you almost always kitten someone over in the end.

 

You think when Naruto dies and goes to be with Minato and Kushina, Kushina beats the kitten out of him for ignoring her dying wish and lying to his father.

 

I have this idea in my head that Kushina and Minato are brought back by Ra's Al Ghul who is working with Ragyo from Kill La Kill and they show them how Naruto honored their dying wishes and they go crazy over it and want to make him pay, so Ragyo gives Kushina Junketsu only it's the one Ryuko was wearing near the end of Kill la Kill wear Ryuko went crazy and have Minato be the Arkham Knight. That would interesting to see.

 

I Love how Naruto can people only when the story says he can, i'll give him Zabuza, Garra, and Nagato, but I will not let how Obito and Sasuke go cause that makes no kittening sense. Hell I was waiting for him to try that on Madara and Kaguya that would be funny to see. This makes me want him to try that more people and fail miserably like a Terminator, Darkseid, Galactus, Thanos, The Joker, Ra's Al Ghul, Red Skull, Loki, Apocalypse

 

You think Superman, The Justice League, The Avengers, The 13 Court Guard Squads form Bleach, The Magic Guilds from Fairy Tail, The Guardians of the Galaxy, The Amazons with Wonder Woman and Aquaman and his Army, The X-men would have won the war in less time if they were in it?

 

How's this for a punishment for Naruto and Sakura have not die and watch and fail as he loses everything. So they'd be made a cursed immortal and turn into Zeref form Fairy Tail.

 

Also my problem with Obito was that he wouldn't shut up about the same thing. Pretty much most of his lines before he lost the ten-tails was the same thing over and over he was like Sasuke before and after he "Killed" Itachi. For some reason I want to read all the lines for Sasuke and Obito in the Superboy-Prime voice that Linkara uses I find it very fitting.

Also Bolt reminds me of Tidus from Final Fantasy X only and I can't believe i'm saying this. But Bolt is more annoying than Tidus is and he has worse daddy issues then Tidus did. 

[Nostradamus]

Naruto has always been portrayed as a righteous character who wouldn't kill no matter what. He does talk about killing Gaara when protecting Sakura and Sasuke, but never does. Same with his confrontation with Nagato; he had the killer instinct in him but never gave in.

Thing is while this is admirable it's also stupid. Because eventually you meet someone who has to be stopped, and the only way to stop such a person is to kill him/her.

 

And this is yet another problem with how Kishi wrote Naruto.

[rocci]

Naruto has always been portrayed as a righteous character who wouldn't kill no matter what. He does talk about killing Gaara when protecting Sakura and Sasuke, but never does. Same with his confrontation with Nagato; he had the killer instinct in him but never gave in.
Thing is while this is admirable it's also stupid. Because eventually you meet someone who has to be stopped, and the only way to stop such a person is to kill him/her.
 
And this is yet another problem with how Kishi wrote Naruto.

That's a shonen hero thing. Most shonen hero doesn't kill.
But the problem with naruto character is, kishi writing style.

[Illnevergiveup3]

I have an honest question about DBZ. Did Toriyama ever say anything about hating Bruce Lee? Because I remember three occasions where he made a character like Bruce Lee a coward in his manga.

[Nostradamus]

That's a shonen hero thing. Most shonen hero doesn't kill.
But the problem with naruto character is, kishi writing style.

Nah, it's just Kishi.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

Naruto has always been portrayed as a righteous character who wouldn't kill no matter what. He does talk about killing Gaara when protecting Sakura and Sasuke, but never does. Same with his confrontation with Nagato; he had the killer instinct in him but never gave in.

Thing is while this is admirable it's also stupid. Because eventually you meet someone who has to be stopped, and the only way to stop such a person is to kill him/her.

 

And this is yet another problem with how Kishi wrote Naruto.

Yeah, it's like, in his (Kishi's or Naruto's) mind, "not killing" and "forgiveness" somehow always go hand in hand, so if Naruto chooses to forgive people like Nagato, Obito, Sasuke, etc., then that somehow means he's not allowed to kill them it seems like.

It's also why the Talk no Jutsu was so stupid half the time, especially when used on ones like Nagato or Obito. Nagato was a true, unfortunate victim of war and has seen the devastation first hand while also experiencing such treachery like by Hanzo and Danzo that resulted in his best friend's death, and then proceeded to spend decades completely entrenched in his beliefs, never questioning his actions, always seeing them as justified....until Naruto comes along...despite the fact that Jiraiya himself had tried to convince him otherwise....one pretty little speech from Naruto and Nagato is suddenly willing to just drop and forget it all just like that....and the only way the TnJ even has the slightest possibility of working is because a majority of Naruto's main antagonists have been "Naruto gone wrong" foils, all in hopes that the reader (and Naruto) would automatically sympathize with them and not want them killed (at least not as a result of a mere fight).

Any other time, you notice it's almost the opposite. Look at the enemies in the movies, for example, who aren't such foils. Naruto doesn't seem to have any qualms with killing them, and seems to even lack a lot of the helpful enthusiasm he has at other times. Like in the first movie (Land of Snow), he's actually a bit of a jerk to Koyuki much of the time and not looking eager to help her at all. Heck, when Koyuki asks him why he's always finding her and bringing her back (after bringing her back the 2nd time shortly before encountering the train, IIRC), he even merely says that it's his mission...that's it...not because he felt she was wrong for running away and should face her fears and not because he wanted to help the people of the land get out of Doto's hold, but simply because it's his mission...it's an obligation that he would avoid if he could have.

[TheFirstEvil100]

 

 More like NS 2.0. WHo wants to read a NS 2.0 in a NH/SS lala land, managed by Hinata wanking fanboys?

That is sadly true its all they now care about is Hinata getting what she wants as all the others don't matter and I hate that people like that should even have jobs that they do.

[rocci]

Nah, it's just Kishi.

The no kill thing is shonen hero trope.
Most shonen hero do not kill human character.

@halfdemoninuyasha
That movie is not canon.
And they could claim that naruto only knock him off.

Edited by rocci, 24 December 2015 - 02:04 AM.

[Nostradamus]

@rocci Tell that to Toriyama. The one that some say is Kishi's "mentor".

Edited by Nostradamus, 24 December 2015 - 02:18 AM.

[rocci]

@rocci Tell that to Toriyama. The one that some say is Kishi's "mentor".

What's with toriyama?

[Yyubie]

Naruto has always been portrayed as a righteous character who wouldn't kill no matter what. He does talk about killing Gaara when protecting Sakura and Sasuke, but never does. Same with his confrontation with Nagato; he had the killer instinct in him but never gave in.

Thing is while this is admirable it's also stupid. Because eventually you meet someone who has to be stopped, and the only way to stop such a person is to kill him/her.

 

And this is yet another problem with how Kishi wrote Naruto.

Yes. Kishi is just a bad writer. Sometimes the only cure for bad guy is death, sometimes its either you or him/her, otherwise you will die or they will just keep hurting other people.
It takes time to save a bad guy and redeem them, it takes days ... but each days passing that bad guy just keep killing and hurting other people, imagine after 1 year you finally able to save and redeem that guy from the darkness, but at what cost ?? thousands already falls victim. Is that really worth it?? for just 1 guy?? . If you just kill him fast then nobody gets hurt or at least reduce the amount of victims. Trying to save Obito and yes naruto did success but at what cost ?? Minato, Kushina, Jiraya, Nagato, Yahiko, Conan and thousands of other people lives?? for just 1 kittening uchina guy???