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#54161 Bail o' Lies

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Posted 31 October 2023 - 06:00 AM

Honestly if they kept going with what nick Spencer did I'd see more people reading those comics. Granted they are rebooting ultimate spiderman under John Hickman telling a new adult spiderman I hear discribed of being like Peter B. Parker from spiderverse.

They have no interest in continuing with Mary Jane and Peter Parker together in the comics. Remember, Nick Spincer did that to recover after the 'Captain America is a Nazi' story flopped. Once his rep was restored, he left, and they broke them up again. Marvel Comics has no interest in having those two together in their comics; outside of a temporary last resort.

 

PPxMJ happen outside of comics because their relationship existing is casual fans knowledge. So it not being there would negatively affect sales. The comic's creators don't think that because they know the comic fans will buy no matter what because the fans are convinced they must keep buying the comic issues in the hope their purchase will magically convince the writers and editors to put them back together. 

 

No I'm talking about at least for over a decade, since games games like the last of us came out and were mega popular. I wouldn't really say that with every comicbook movie, as directors such as James gunn, josh weadon and the russo brothers I recall were comicbook fans.

From everything I have read and heard from one piece fans and youtubers nothing implies they would of done another Cowboy Bebop and that the showrunner is a passionate fan of one piece and wouldn't do anything without oda's approval. Nintendo and Mario I have no idea about, all I recall is that you had the anti woke crowd acusing it of being a feminist movie with how princess peach was portrayed in the trailer only to u-turn when the film turned out to be really popular.

You think books with pictures with link comics or managa would be at least somewhat appealing since they do have visual images to look at. Not to mention you can read a chapter like naruto in a few minutes.

Cowboy Bebop was not their first live action adaptation of an anime Netflix did, just the last one before One Piece. They are generally all the same. The difference for One Piece was the mangaka was an executive producer and he ordered reshoot when the adapters were up to their usual antics.

 

I'm not much of a Nintendo fan, so I'm sure I didn't make many post about Mario movie and especially about Princess Peach in it. As for people don't liking Woke movies. People have been burned so often by bad products that call them a bigot for even expressing even the mildest criticisms. It is only natural to express caution towards sequels and remakes. Go in expecting it to be bad, enjoy it if its good, worry if the sequel will fall off. Better than the fan desperately holding on to hope the companies and writers that hold them in contempt will finally listen.

 

Comics problem is they are so minor in the cultural landscape only a small amount of nerds read them. Manga is more popular and read. But again, people will defer to the anime adaptation because even with pictures they are too lazy. 


Edited by Bail o' Lies, 01 November 2023 - 03:43 AM.


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Posted 31 October 2023 - 06:23 PM

 

Honestly if they kept going with what nick Spencer did I'd see more people reading those comics. Granted they are rebooting ultimate spiderman under John Hickman telling a new adult spiderman I hear discribed of being like Peter B. Parker from spiderverse.

 
Where did he say this? If it was because of the ultimate universe, that logic would only work in a eleseworld universe without the main continuity like injustice.

Though etheir way I'm not suprised as bends has always had a mixed bag of a reputation with comicbook fans.

Nah, he made this statement years after he finished his Ultimate Spider-Man run.  And hack writers like Jason Aaron followed his lead by substantially altering long-established lore in Thor's mythos and dragging said-character's rep through the mud just to prop up Jane Foster. As for the new Ultimate Spider-Man: apparently, this version got his powers and became Spidey *after* he already had his own family.  Heck, they revived the original Ultimate Spider-Man a few years ago(don't ask why, just know that the explanation is stupid), and he's semi-retired from being a superhero while settling down with his Mary Jane.  Which is further galling and hypocritical since a major reason that they created Ultimate Spider-Man was because they were convinced Peter was more "relatable" when he was a highschool kid without any serious romantic relationships.


Light and Shadow are the only static creations of this universe. 


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Posted 01 November 2023 - 02:51 AM

Which is further galling and hypocritical since a major reason that they created Ultimate Spider-Man was because they were convinced Peter was more "relatable" when he was a highschool kid without any serious romantic relationships.

The reason they keep putting Peter Parker in Highschool over and over again is because they want him to be the young web-slinging web-head with no responsibilities, fighting bad guys while constantly quipping, selling pictures of himself to the Daily Bugle for pocket change, and getting with model hot high-school girls the writer always dreamed of. With Great Power comes Great Fun and Zero Responsibility, to them. Also despite the fact, I think, Peter graduated from High-School in issue 15 of his story and his most of the famous events are actually him in college.

 

He is only allowed to be older in Into the Spiderverse and those Sony games is because they want him to be a Mentor to Miles Morales. So, they can eventually replace Peter with Miles. Ah, apparently Insomniac/Sony games have already declared they are doing so.


Edited by Bail o' Lies, 06 November 2023 - 08:42 AM.


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Posted 01 November 2023 - 08:31 PM

It's been 9 years since Naruto ended. Am I still not over it? Nope. Not at all but even if  I was over it. It's still a bad ending, and Naruto the Last is still a bad movie. It sucked in 2014 and it still sucks now. Batman and Robin sucked in 1997 and it still sucks now. Twilight sucked in 2008  and it still sucks now.


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Posted 14 November 2023 - 07:20 AM

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Posted 25 November 2023 - 03:18 PM

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Posted 25 November 2023 - 07:03 PM

https://twitter.com/...Myul-cYWNQ&s=19

 

"Idk why this is so funny, toneri basically told boruto that his mom was a second choice. Imagine if boruto asked how his parents got together, and Toneri said it was because of genjutsu."

 

                Toneri:" Back then, Naruto saw Sasuke, an elite student, as his rival, and seemed to have a crush on Sakura.

The, "seemed," means they are still trying to justify it by the Last. That Naruto wasn't really in love or didn't really have a crush on Sakura; only seemed to be because it just a part of his rivalry with Sasuke to go after the girl that Sasuke had feelings for.


Edited by Bail o' Lies, 26 November 2023 - 12:47 AM.


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Posted 27 November 2023 - 12:05 AM

YEEEAAAH, Knocking down and blowing up an essential part of Naruto's character (the POAL) obviously wasn't gonna backfire.  :zaru:  :lmao: You either completely undermine Naruto's understanding of love and make him a self serving hypocritical douchebag or you accept Hinata was a pity prize. One contradicts the other, and you CAN'T have both.


Edited by Phantom_999, 06 December 2023 - 02:10 PM.

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Posted 04 December 2023 - 09:14 PM

YEEEAAAH, Knocking down and blowing up an essential part of Naruto's character (the POAL) obviously wasn't gonna backfire.  :zaru:  :lmao: You either completely undermine Naruto's understanding of love and make him a self serving hypocritical douchebag or you accept Hinata was a pity prize. One contradicts the other.


And you won't make Sakura seem like she's a manipulative beeyotch using what she knows to get what SHE wants.... :zaru: :lmao: </sarcasm>

Edited by Bryon_Konoha_Ninja, 04 December 2023 - 09:16 PM.


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Posted 15 December 2023 - 07:26 PM

I have the impression that Pierrot pays for bots to defend Boruto. This happens because recently there has been a discussion on Twitter that everything in the Boruto anime is canonical, and there are no fillers, based solely on the statements of the writers that everything is endorsed by Kishimoto, which supposedly makes all events canonical. They seem to ignore the fact that Pierrot conveniently erased elements from "The Last" when necessary. Additionally, there is a group of people that appears to be composed of bots, excessively defending the Uchiha family with questionable arguments, and even resorting to using novels that sometimes resemble fanfics.

 

When I visit the profiles of these individuals, it feels like I've entered a fantasy world, where Sasuke's personality seems to have come out of some generic shoujo anime. The majority of these profiles were created exactly in 2017, the year when the anime came to an end and the couple in question faced a lot of criticism.

Pretty much all corporations and companies use bots. And even governments use them. A simple google search gives you enough places where you can buy bots to use as you wish.

The reason they use bots is because it's a lot cheaper to use them than actual humans. Now why would you do such a thing? Simple, to convince people to buy your product (which works) or in case of politics to convince people that one point of view is the majority so you should go with that point and not oppose it.

It's going to be a lot more difficult starting now to determine what is a bot and who's an actual human due to the rise of "A.I." it's not actual AI it's just a bot that has access to more data. That's really what all these A.I.s are now. For artificial intelligence to exist it needs actual intelligence.

 

I'm pretty sure most of you have read a review of a product online stores like Amazon or whatever you have in your country or reviews for movies/shows, and those reviews are always like "Best product ever, must buy. Greatest movie of all time, must watch. Product works would recommend. Very good product. Best anime ever. etc." These bots had a very limited database of what to write and do, now with the introduction of ChatGPT (Which is a language bot. It just talks nonsense without having any idea what it's babbling about it) has access to way more data, but it's still just a bot, there's no intelligence. If in its database it has that 2+2=5 then that's what it's going to repeat no matter what. There's no intelligence behind it to realize that 2+2 doesn't add up to 5.

The simple truth is that bots are cheap and profitable and they work to convince people.

 

Also hi. I'm back... again...again. Hopefully this time for good period. My grandmother decided to fall again and well went through a lot of stress and taking care of her and surgery. Why do people refuse to listen when you just want what's best for them?

Although it's a good thing she did fell because we were able to catch another health problem with her that we wouldn't have discovered/known about if she didn't fell.


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These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.





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