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#1 Bail o' Lies

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 10:19 PM

Episode 19: Sarada Uchiha. This is the start of the gaiden right? So in theory this shouldn't take too long. Hopefully.

 

So the episode does admittedly start of strong with a brush painting the uchiha symbol in red. Before showing the symbol on Salad's back and we see her watching the hokage monument and someone is paintin...oh god they are rewriting episode 700 aren't they? Thankfully, no. Bolt is lashing out like a spoiled brat and painting "idiot" on Naruto's face. We see Shikamaru and his son training. Sai is also training with his son. It's all the parents training with their kids. This did happen in the gaiden first chapter as well but Naruto was playing hide and go seek with his son in that. So to keep the narrative of naruto neglecting his son they actually changed it into something more negative. So bolt had to do this to get Naruto to spend time with him. Salad sends Naruto the wrong way when bolt is hiding like the manga. Shikamaru catches him...yep this is different from the gaiden and far more negative. In the gaiden Shikamaru only talks to Bolt; here he shadow binds him and then orders his son to get Naruto.

 

Opening

 

So fat filler talks to salad who is moping. Wait the graduation exams were just around the corner in the gaiden here they aren't coming up soon? Oh here's where they add that what does a ninja mean question that the gaiden eventually dropped. God she looks too much like Ino. Much of this is from the manga. Please at the very least could they drop the looking for her real dad gag I don't want to suffer through that again for ten weeks. I'll even pick a different nickname for her if they don't...NOOOO!!! THEY ARE DOING IT! NOOO!!! TEN WEEKS OF THE SAME UNFUNNY GAG OVER AND OVER AGAIN!!! Whelp. She still is and stays Fat Filler then.

 

Oh there the picture frame that is going to start this arc. So when Sakura going to destroy her home again? After SS is torn a new kitten again? So Sakura comes home and notices Salad is crying. Thinking something made be wrong with her eye she quickly goes over concern to check. She very serious about Salad's eyes, but doesn't seem to have much worry in her face, as much as strictness throughout this entire scene. So Salad ask about the glasses bit and here where they tear it a new kitten but instead of doing when Sakura doing laundry outside during dinner. Dammit no, it just ended on that question not being answered.

 

She goes to the library to learn more about the uchiha. She can't access some files for some reason.

 

Oh now they are doing the laundry scene. They changed it so Salad and Sakura are separated by a sheet while Salad is asking her question instead of looking into Sakura's eyes when she can't answer Salad simple questions. Then take it down when Salad ask if Sakura is even Sasuke's wife. God they don't display much emotion on Sakura's face keeping it almost completely flat. They soften a lot of this scene including how rapidly Salad was asking the questions, Sakura face during it, and even Sakura outburst when she can't handle it. The house isn't even destoried that made Sakura faint in the manga. Instead she apologizes for the outburst, and when Salad ask even more question she just touches her forehead clearly to remind people for the forehead poke. Oh now it's destroyed.

 

They also changed Shizune from checking on Sakura in her house to in front of Sakura's damaged house. they even sent her the hospital instead of just resting in Shizune's house. Salad found the photo. And changed again so Shizune see it while Salad is next to Sakura's bedside. They also make Shizune say Sakura is her mother instead of not being able to answer in the manga.

 

Then the Choji's family bit. Oh Fat filler was once sick and she recalls a shadowy man giving her mother the medicine to cure her. Of course it's her father in his slim down form. So they added this to justify her gag.

 

Then ends with Sasuke in a forest fighting the celebi kid.

 

This entire episode is trying to soft the negative anti SS first chapter of the gaiden, even the change in the Naruto's & Bolt's interaction is to show that not everyone is able to spend time with their father unlike the gaiden where Naruto was spending time with him.


Edited by Bail o' Lies, 10 August 2017 - 04:22 AM.


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Posted 09 August 2017 - 10:31 PM

A few episodes ahead making Gaiden into anime without the complete canon material.



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Posted 09 August 2017 - 10:50 PM

A few episodes ahead making Gaiden into anime without the complete canon material.

No, they are changing scene to soft the negative SS blows that were in the original manga. They know what the material is but they are trying manipulate it and change it so it lessen the negative SS that was particularly in the first chapter.


Edited by Bail o' Lies, 09 August 2017 - 10:51 PM.


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Posted 09 August 2017 - 10:52 PM

Who else wants to bet that they will drop the umbillical cord scene?


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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:00 PM

Here is a thing what would Naruto have been like if Toei Animation did it, I mean true we know they kitten up at times but unlike with SP they do not play favourites.

 

But I want to know what you guys think on what you think it would have been like if Naruto was done by Toei Animation.



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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:02 PM

Who else wants to bet that they will drop the umbilical cord scene?

I think they will keep it in some way. They are changing and adding scene to change or soft things that happened in the gaiden; like the Salad's question or fat filler's gag.



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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:09 PM

No, they are changing scene to soft the negative SS blows that were in the original manga. They know what the material is but they are trying manipulate it and change it so it lessen the negative SS that was particularly in the first chapter.

Proof of concept when you mess up the story so much that you have to rewrite it as you are adapting it.

I have never seen a story be so bad that every writer that has ever worked on it keeps changing the story due to so much backlash and downright hatred towards scenes.


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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:19 PM

I guess it could end up like that movie Castle Glass or something like that, where it can be "emotional" yet one would still see the movie heavily flawed. In other words, the overall will be the same as the manga and that alone already got me turned off.

Edited by TouKen4Life3g, 09 August 2017 - 11:19 PM.


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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:20 PM

Episode 19: Sarada Uchiha. This is the start of the gaiden right? So in theory this shouldn't take too long. Hopefully.

 

So the episode does admittedly start of strong with a brush painting the uchiha symbol in red. Before showing the symbol on Salad's back and we see her watching the hokage monument and someone is paintin...oh god they are rewriting episode 700 aren't they? Thankfully, no. Bolt is lashing out like a spoiled brat and painting "idiot" on Naruto's face. We see Shikamaru and his son training. Sai is also training with his son. It's all the parents training with their kids. This did happen in the gaiden first chapter as well but Naruto was playing hide and go seek with his son in that. So to keep the narrative of naruto neglecting his son they actually changed it into something more negative. So bolt had to do this to get Naruto to spend time with him. Salad sends Naruto the wrong way when bolt is hiding like the manga. Shikamaru catches him...yep this is different from the gaiden and far more negative. In the gaiden Shikamaru only talks to Bolt; here he shadow binds him and then orders his son to get Naruto.

 

Opening

 

So fat filler talks to salad who is moping. Wait the graduation exams were just around the corner in the gaiden here they aren't coming up soon? Oh here's where they add that what does a ninja mean question that the gaiden eventually dropped. God she looks too much like Ino. Much of this is from the manga. Please at the very least could they drop the looking for her real dad gag I don't want to suffer through that again for ten weeks. I'll even pick a different nickname for her if they don't...NOOOO!!! THEY ARE DOING IT! NOOO!!! TEN WEEKS OF THE SAME UNFUNNY GAG OVER AND OVER AGAIN!!! Whelp. She still is and stays Fat Filler then.

 

Oh there the picture frame that is going to start this arc. So when Sakura going to destroy her home again? After SS is torn a new kitten again? So Sakura comes home and notices Salad is crying. Thinking something made be wrong with her eye she quickly goes over concern to check. She very serious about Salad's eyes, but doesn't seem to have much worry in her face, as much as strictness throughout this entire scene. So Salad ask about the glasses bit and here where they tear it a new kitten but instead of doing when Sakura doing laundry outside during dinner. Dammit no, it just ended on that question not being answered.

 

She goes to the library to learn more about the uchiha.

 

Oh now they are doing the laundry scene. They changed it so Salad and Sakura are separated by a sheet while Salad is asking her question instead of looking into Sakura's eyes when she can't answer Salad simple questions. Then take it down when Salad ask if Sakura is even Sasuke's wife. God they don't display much emotion on Sakura's face keeping it almost completely flat. They soften a lot of this scene including how rapidly Salad was asking the questions, Sakura face during it, and even Sakura outburst when she can't handle it. The house isn't even destoried that made Sakura faint in the manga. Instead she apologizes for the outburst, and when Salad ask even more question she just touches her forehead clearly to remind people for the forehead poke. Oh now it's destroyed.

 

They also changed Shizune from checking on Sakura in her house to in front of Sakura's damaged house. they even sent her the hospital instead of just resting in Shizune's house. Salad found the photo. And changed again so Shizune see it while Salad is next to Sakura's bedside. They also make Shizune say Sakura is her mother instead of not being able to answer in the manga.

 

Then the Choji's family bit. Oh Fat filler was once sick and she recalls a shadowy man giving her mother the medicine to cure her. Of course it's her father in his slim down form. So they added this to justify her gag.

 

Then ends with Sasuke in a forest fighting the celebi kid.

 

This entire episode is trying to soft the negative anti SS first chapter of the gaiden, even the change in the Naruto's & Bolt's interaction is to show that not everyone is able to spend time with their father unlike the gaiden where Naruto was spending time with him.

 

1: The intro is described relatievely accurately this time, thank you. The more negative part of Naruto's neglect is... more or less not the case, as he is working? The situation isn't worse, really the same as it was, part of the chronic tension between the two.

 

2: Please Stop with Fat Filler. To not expect the dad joke, which foils Sarada's, was silly of you.

 

3: You might want to edit your summaries, you were being critical of the house not being destroyed, then acknowledged it was destroyed. It follows the Gaiden here  in the same way.

 

The episode isn't trying to -soften- the negative anti SS first chapter, because the first chapter isn't anti SS anyway. The entire manga is just telling a story, labeling it anti or pro by chapters is really foolish.

 

Further, to elaborate on the "softening", it's called building up empathy. I felt that when -reading- Gaiden, empathy for both Sakura and Sarada, and the angst fo the situation. It's an angsty pairing, and Gaiden is fittingly angsty.



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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:22 PM

I think they will keep it in some way. They are changing and adding scene to change or soft things that happened in the gaiden; like the Salad's question or fat filler's gag.

I think I have to agree Evil100 man this would have been done far better if it was in the hands of Toei Animation.



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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:25 PM

I think I have to agree Evil100 man this would have been done far better if it was in the hands of Toei Animation.

 

I disagree with the mindset that they have to be 100% faithful and can't make any additions, Free to have your opinion though.

 

I distinctly remember them changing what Sakura did in the animated episode of 614-615 to frankly, be a lot more cooler.



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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:25 PM

To its credit, they're doing tons of addition to keep it from being seen as flawed. Stuff like this, I can't credit to the original if they have to do all of this...

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:29 PM

The thing that will probably change is that by the end Sarada is going to think of Sakura as her biological mother (which contradicts with the gaiden if I remember correctly) because who needs morals or messages when you gotta pander those SS fans man.


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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:32 PM

I think I have to agree Evil100 man this would have been done far better if it was in the hands of Toei Animation.

I was talking about the umbilical bit, as for toei I'm honestly not sure how they would handle adapting Naruto at least they wouldn't focus so much on Hinata.

 

To its credit, they're doing tons of addition to keep it from being seen as flawed. Stuff like this, I can't credit to the original if they have to do all of this...

Like I keep saying they are changing it to soften. The gaiden was clearly written when Kishimoto was starting to resent working on Naruto, hated SS as well as nH, but also wanted to show he was not sexist by trying to do a good job with Salad herself. Here they are trying to soften it so they don't get the SS fans that follow the anime angry like what happened to those that read the gaiden. 


Edited by Bail o' Lies, 09 August 2017 - 11:36 PM.


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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:49 PM

I was talking about the umbilical bit, as for toei I'm honestly not sure how they would handle adapting Naruto at least they wouldn't focus so much on Hinata.

 

Like I keep saying they are changing it. The gaiden was clearly written when Kishimoto was starting to resent working on Naruto, hated SS as well as nH, but also wanted to show he was not sexist by trying to do a good job with Salad herself. Here they are trying to soften it so they don't get the SS fans that follow the anime angry like what happened to those that read the gaiden. 

True man but as you said SP love and they just love changing things to their own liking, Hinata is a big teller to this with all the fillers that they give to her after all and all the hate that they give Sakura and change things to make Sakura seem like a kitten.

 

Hence why Toei Animation would not do it the only fillers they do is make ther fights longer and at time do a fille but we know that they wouldn't focus on Hinata.



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Posted 10 August 2017 - 12:45 AM

The thing that will probably change is that by the end Sarada is going to think of Sakura as her biological mother (which contradicts with the gaiden if I remember correctly) because who needs morals or messages when you gotta pander those SS fans man.

 

Wait, how does this contradict with Gaiden? She finds this out at the end anyway.



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Posted 10 August 2017 - 01:35 AM

No, they are changing scene to soft the negative SS blows that were in the original manga. They know what the material is but they are trying manipulate it and change it so it lessen the negative SS that was particularly in the first chapter.

I meant with " without the complete canon material " as them lessening the negativity that contradicts with Gaiden.



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Posted 10 August 2017 - 01:41 AM

I meant with " without the complete canon material " as them lessening the negativity that contradicts with Gaiden.

 

But they're not doing this. Just going to -empashize that this is not happening.



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Posted 10 August 2017 - 02:21 AM

Oh, look. They're trying to soften the negativity like they always have. 

>Manga: Yeah, the NH and SS family are dysfunctional and bad.
>Anime: N-No they're not. See?! Look at our view on things!!

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Posted 10 August 2017 - 03:30 AM

Oh, look. They're trying to soften the negativity like they always have. 

>Manga: Yeah, the NH and SS family are dysfunctional and bad.
>Anime: N-No they're not. See?! Look at our view on things!!

:facepalm:

 

...They're not doing this. I watched it.

 

Literally, the sole difference, is you are watching it animated, with music playing. This -gives- an empathetic feel, but that's the intention is in the moment in the Manga anyway.






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