Inferno180

To me, yes this is all dissapointing, and well, yeah love subplot becomes a mess, it ends a mess.

Now I feel like purging the memory of this entire story, its literally all an asspull and just breaks the logic of it all.

Maybe in another life I'll give this series a chance, but in this life, I'm going to purge it all. I liked the series from chapters 1 to 698, but now its just, now I wish i hadn't continued to read the series.

I loved this ship guys, I was willing to see NH as canon, but SS as well, sorry but I cannot accept this. NS is always my canon and well whats there to say? This is karma? we were usually the ones getting blasted and I mean kishi had written what he did. But yeah, I am not even going to finish the series with this.

I loved this with all of you, but now, the series is dead to me, its over, finally free of this shipping war, going to erase everything from the web and what I did with this. Naruto and everything in it is just over for me. Now I will never remember this series.

Maybe in time I will find a replacement like fairytail or something, something that stuck to the stuff it needed, but this is just a case of, well, I'm never going to read this series again.

I will miss you all when my purge is complete, I just cannot fulfill the series at this point knowing all the news. To me, its over, the manga, the anime, the games, to have kishi having written all of this and just blatently ignore it, maybe if the series was ever rebooted and had a different outcome, I don't know, but theres just nothing left, nothing.

NS was a great and grand journey, but at the end we get this, mess, this thing with no excuse. Its hard to imagine a series that got so good had such a lazy ending. But yeah I'm erasing this series from my mind, its just not a good outcome, not a good resolution.

I wished that we would have been right just following a story as it should have, but kishi either got lazy or soldout. I cannot look at this series ever again when the whole development has been ignored and just sasuke gets asspulled to something he shouldnt have and NH just got a movie. Naruto never got resolution with Sakura, thats the worst of all, now this is nothing to me, I am sorry guys, but this series has become nothing to me.

So now I begin my purge and erase this series from my mind, erase the stain of the ending, erase what I liked following this series over the years.

I was never going to ship anything after this, but after seeing this result, I just cannot look at manga the same way again, so upon this news, I just sold my naruto games to gamestop and will erase my web broswer, this is just sad, I'll always remember you guys in heart, but now, Naruto is something I need to erase from my mind, thats how upsetting this is, not because of the ship, but even because of just how, pointless and out of order this ending is. Even as a writier, kishi messed up, I am not going to spend time about going on what could have been, now to me, its just a mess, just this ending made me loose my respect for this series, I mean sasuke now suddenly loving Sakura, well guys, guess this is farewell. It was a great journey, but theres nothing left to respect for this series. I loved the buildup but the ending was a WTF moment, a big one, sorry guys but hey, its been fun. I'll remember you all in heart. When my purge is complete, well, the joy of this ship will always remain in my heart, but I've dropped the series now, its nothing to me, never again will I lay eyes upon naruto, for I wanted to see a story full of its development become something it should have in the end, not just asspulled something else because of fandom preferences or not having the balls to fulfill and follow what you wrote. In an alternate reality, well, I wish we could have see the NS canon there, but all I can say this this left a bad taste in my mouth and its a pain to me to say I now want to never see this series again. Maybe I'll take up fairytail, now. But its been fun guys, farewell.

I can agree with a lot of this, personally to me, I didn't like Sasuke as a character or as he was an ass, but I liked his fighting style, thats the only thing I actually found enjoyable about him, sword with lightning imbuing ablities made him like the sith of the narutoverse. Otherwise the fire stuff and sussano was neat.

But as a character with more flip flopping than naruto hitting others with talk no jutsu, yeah sasuke was practically forced into situations, even development wise, Sakuras with narutos has been longer and deeper than Naruto going for Sasuke despite that being the main one we need to consider. but hey, Naruto got sasuke back for both his own reasons and the promise and well we know of narutos reasons so now the promise should be addressed and well, NS can happen with that other I couldnt confess before factor.

If you guys are really concerned than ask yourselves these 2 questions:

Which is the harder to believe?

Kishi making a movie filled with NHness and not making NH canon within 110 minutes, thereby NS being canon in the manga

or

Kishi not making NS canon in the manga which has been running for 15 years, having lots of gradual and spaced out development just to have Nh go canon within 110 minutes.

Aka do you believe Kishi would end the manga with NH despite not much in the manga especially in conflict with what was seen in with NS in the manga and that this would all be sidelined within a simple 110 minute movie?

I know it may seem hard to believe that Nh wouldnt occur in the movie despite from what we have seen so far, but its even harder to imagine NS not occuring because of what has come before in the manga.

The fact that it seems strange that Nh wouldnt occur in the movie is a strange statement indeed, but the amount of strangeness for the deal with the manga far outweighs this, the fact of what we saw in the manga with NS just not occuring in the end far outweighs the strange factor of the movie not having NH in it.

Its a matter of which of these 2 is the more extreme thing to envision not happening? 15 years of paced focus and development vs 110 minutes of some side story that never had time for in the manga?

And please you honestly mean to tell me you believe SS should occur? It has no excuse, even for a redeemed sasuke, there is no point in him loving Sakura. It seems silly to imagine stuff like the forehead compliment would come along with if Naruto confessed after saying he kept his promise, but seriously, is it that impossible? because we got Kushina having the same basic background in regards to Minato with how Sakura was to Naruto, hating the blond at first, calling them weak, not liking their physical feature yet the guy did, I don't even need to mention the 504 and 631 stuff, thats been said enough, but to have a foreshadow occur with a model setup in relation to 2 other characters, its like, a 3 tiered effect of just, well why wouldnt this be brought forth to the end?

Then there is one last thing I have speculated upon for this ending.

The ending, these final chapters, mainly 700, would have had to occur in such a way that, the manga is the only thing you would have had to read to understand everything, not the movie, its to say if this is an epilogue then well you would understand how the fate of everyone occurred without needing to see the movie, I mean even kishi said please see the manga ending before the movie. And to me, that just speaks well, you cannot expect SS to happen because Sasuke himself has been the issue the whole time, and again there is no point for him to suddenly love sakura or sponaentously be with her in the end, its like a love that just happened for no purposes besides her hoping. Along with NH, well if you see NH in the final chapter, technically you know what happens in the movie and it then becomes a point of the movie being just how NH occured and why NS didn't despite everything else and frankly, this one just makes plenty of more questions than answers, even from kishis choice as he wrote both the manga (with the NS stuff we got these past 2 years like 631 and 663) along with all the negative stuff on SS and nothing for NH besides well, the dream which was just the same as ever. Now ask yourself, this deal of NH in the end, it just comes from nowhere, does Hinata even have something to fulfill in the manga if the movie exists? NH certainly isn't going to be canon in the manga or make sense without the movie but its again, would kishi honestly make a manga end that just fits out of nowhere with you seeing NH in the end despite him still, even recently from 693, still loving and having the promise with Sakura? Take the movie out of this equation, you see manybe a NS deal in 699 then blam, NH in 700, doesn't make much sense in a flow now does it? This is why the movie would come in but again, it would also disrupt the end feeling flow to the manga, because these final 10 chapters have been Naruto and Sasuke but to a larger extent as well, team 7 as a whole, the team which does not include Hinata.

And some would say, but what about Sakura in 693, what the hell about that? Yeah the hell indeed, because Sasuke himself being the issue, you honestly think there is a reason for love to occur that didn't occur at all? Otherwise you should expect SS in the movie as well despite it not being well, anywhere. But what if NS is there aside from the promise? What if Naruto either confesses or reveals the chapter 3 stuff? You honestly don't think that this should qualify for a predictable consideration among for the facts naruto wasn't able to confess because of the promise (alongside never in the flow of this manga having turned towards hinata or away from Sakura) and add to the fact that something like chapter 3, even as unlikely as it sounds, wouldnt flow into the deal of the kushina likeness or be a shocker to Sakura to see that the sasuke she loved, was ironically naruto? Its not hard to imagine that 699 could have some setup for NS like a promise fulfilled or reveal and then 700 shows what it became in the future.

Look I know some stuff seems unlikely, but the given the whole predicament of what we have seen, the fact of the issues that arise when the movie comes into this mix with HInata, yes it may seem crazy to say NH couldnt occur if it seems like a movie flooded and implying that it will occur, but then it just throws more crazy to say, if kishi is intent on NH, well its not only a poor execution but its honestly, a shocker to think that NS would just have been the best developed and seen in the manga yet not occur and it would be even harder just to watch the movie to see how naruto turned in just 110 minutes. I mean no debating stuff but Sakura got her meaningful and purposeful development with Naruto, to just pocket her on Sasuke is just well, thats not fulfilling, again especially with what we have seen in regards to development and especially the kushina stuff even hinting an end, well thats the deal to say, if you foreshadowed this stuff 3 times, even put the mother of the hero in the likeness of the heroine and gave her a similar backstory to the father, why just basically cancel it?

I have faith that NS will get, if anything a resolution, but honestly, after looking over all the info and what the movie came with and what has occured in the past with the manga, to me, its harder to believe that NH would just "happen" in 110 minutes so easily rather than all the stuff NS had with the 15 years paced out growth over this manga.

Its either NS and everything goes forward or NH occurs and its well, just unfortunate that things had to be a sellout and well, I wouldnt be sad, I would just laugh at NH, because the movie itself would just be how shallow and hollow the pairing was, Hinata literally reduced to that pathetic type of disney idealism princess kitten that needs to die, I mean she gets kidnapped in the movie later on too, and fans want NH or Hinata herself to be like this? Thats not an epic ending, thats just sad, espcially on Hinatas part...

But yeah I have faith in NS development and the promise is still there. But the thing thats again to me is just looking at kishis choices in what is implied with the movie and what he already did with the manga. So now it remains, is NS in the manga and makes this movie not what many think it to be? Or did kishi just take the easy way out despite having so much development, focus, and even hinting on what NS could do?

To me, its the bigger question of which is more insane, and by all logic, the bigger insanity is him not making a fulfilled relationship of NaruSaku which got this stuff, a long time over the steady 15 years than to actually not have NH occur in this movie, rather its insane and already hard to believe why would naruto just turn to hinata so easily in 110 minutes? And well yeah that NS stuff, existed and was put down before and even along the time kishi made the last, so thats a good question in itself, why hint it and show nothing for it rather than just have Hinata around? I mean hell he could have had kagyua use Hinata for something if the byakugan was so important.

To me, its just a reasonable skeptical approach to the current stuff we have seen, but again, I have faith in the NS development as to what makes NS the most appropriate ending to this story.

Because what occurred in the past cannot be changed and well, NS was there all over the manga, not needing a movie to just say how things happened so suddenly. It still has the promise to fulfill in the end and there is a deal that well, there may be something there that goes our way and makes NS canon, because what we saw implying it and not helping NH, hell NH needs a movie for its implied canon, thats just saying how "important" it was to the overall story. And to most senses, this just seems, rediclous, I mean NS is the most focused and appropriate to fulfill this love subplot, within itself of the manga, so why would the movie just come and do this and make us believe Naruto suddenly goes into loving Hinata? come on guys, again what is harder to believe:

NS not occuring in the manga despite everything seen before and just sidelined in favor of NH within 110 minutes

or

NH not occuring in the movie

Because seriously, kishi wrote both of these, and to me, the deal of NS not occurring is the bigger thing in question, thats just more insane if you look at it and again, shouldn't the manga ending be something merited by the manga, without the need to see the movie? Wouldnt this end have to be something that the audience can understand with all the stuff before it? I'll leave you guys to decide but my choice is the former, its just harder to believe NS would not occur despite all the other stuff shown before, I mean what author would do that, what author would even accept this even knowingly writing both the manga and this side story? And thats where I will leave it, because NS not happening, depsite all the stuff we saw before, thats hard to believe. I believe NS will get a resolution, it should get the promise fulfilled, but for everything else, its either it all flows together or kishi just did something else and Nh occurs and well, thats just not that fulfilling, even with a movie.

Well now this will be my last post:

Until the end comes and not needing to focus on the movie (lets keep this on the manga)

This databook has been otherwise what we have said more or less the whole time:

-The promise is important and present, not ended in 470, though this solved itself with 693

-663 was Sakura to Naruto and her protecting his dream, possibly her moving towards Naruto, even with what the databook has, again they could have just put it as payback for him protecting her, but adding love, well thats just something to make me smile. Either way its given, Narutos dream is important to Sakura.

-Nothing much on NH save from Hinata like the manga has done

-Sasuke doesn't love Sakura and she didn't even appear in Sasuke's pages.

So yeah, NS has a resolution to occur, lets be patient and see what the ending really is, but this is nothing spoilerwise and its neat in itself how this databook was implemented. See you guys on thursday, this databook stuff got me smiling.

What or who is Sakura's favorite in this DB? 

It says Sasuke, but for Sakura it says about how she believes he could come out of darkness, not love, aka concerned for his wellbeing.

Hinata has naruto no suprise but its just more of well, NH always being on her.

But Naruto has ramen in his favorite so, NaruRamen is confirmed, so teuchi, the ramen guy wins.

This databook had a lot for NS, with the promise and the 663 stuff, it even had it mentioning Sakura was protecting narutos dream as payback for naruto having loved and protected her until now.

Don't fret over the until now stuff, that could be like saying how she protected him for once or how after all this time, until now something else could occur, don't fret over it. Nothing in this book has appeared for Sakura on Sasuke and well generally the NH stuff is all on Hinata.

The suprising thing is again just that deal of Sakura towards Naruto, they didn't have to throw love in there, just protection, that would have made sense, and naruto never showed any signs of turning away from sakura or towards hinata in the manga so, yeah its info that we kinda knew in line with the whole time.

Short version: the stuff we said about NS was basically more or less right when stuff like 663 first came out and with the promise, like in 469, it wasn't killed, NS didn't die, it was a deal that had been involving both of them for a long period even to the current point in the manga, not ended suddenly with 469 as other fans thought.