Yes, she is supposed to be happy. Yes Sasuke, Naruto, and Hinata are as well. I don't think its disputable that this is what they are trying to show. Whether the author is effective in show it they should be or whether they should be or it makes sense? Maybe you don't think so or aren't doing a good job, but I don't think you can dispute what the intent is...yes, they are supposed to be by and large happy couples.
I find it baffling that so many accused Kishimoto of rank selfish and self-interested behavior when selecting the pairings, but then forget to apply that going forward. I remember telling this to BestSasuHinafan like 20 times: It's hard to believe they would select these pairings only to secret whiz all over them in Boruto. It's an especially untenable position to take if your position is "kishimoto did it for the money or becaue of the anime studio or his editor." If you believe that was his motivation then the logical extension of that is...of course they are happy. If it was for the money then, then its probably for the money now. I certaintly would chase a fandom that by in large said they'd never return if I were them.
If you don't think its being portrayed well, then that's different matter.
Don't talk to me like a child, Nate.
And to answer your "questions," WE...DON'T....KNOW. Simple enough for you or should I brake this down? You want to talk about pushing this forward, but then again pushing it forward puts it in the hands of people who are not Kishimoto. (And Supervising doesn't really mean anything in my opinion. I paid a doctor to "supervise" the nurse treating me and all he did was look at the chart.) We also have the anime which went at the same time as the manga was being made. Duh?! Hello, McFly....anyone in there? Maybe you didn't read my other post about how I described perhaps Kishimoto stopped caring after a while and just went with whatever.
Kishimoto could have went from "Oh boy this is my own story" to "I can;t wait to get this over with and move on." Studio Perriot and the writer of Boruto could have went from "great story, let's make some money" to "Hinata Hinata" to "Oh let's milk the new generation because that is the only anime that is making any headway" seeing how SP doesn't really advertise their other anime like they do with Boruto. Gee, I wonder why that it is. Of course, business is business.
And it all comes crashing down when three things are popping up consistently between the threeforces ; The differences in Kishimoto's interviews, the difference in character portrayals, and the difference in who says what. Kishimoto's dramatic inconsistency in interviews from this is "My idea was like this, but I guess fans took it wrong" to "Yeah, this was all planned from the beginning." SP seemed more concerned with making Hinata look good which they did almost every chance they get unless an outside force approached like...even Kishimoto himself who seems to just not care about Hinata at all. We then have a new editor and writer making new Boruto stuff and...well, something doesn't seem right does it?
So keep going forward and you will notice how.....oh look even more writers to fill in the blanks with an even more character reimaging that seem odd.
So Nate, the answer is...possibly all three from a certain point of view.
In Kishimoto's world by way of interviews and Naruto Gaiden and so many other things....Naruto and Hinata and Sasuke and Sakura are miserable. Sorry, but "dem is dah breaks." If his intention was different then he either lied or he has no idea how real relationships work...pick one that sounds more feesible to you.
In SPs universe we get something more "fantasy driven" where everything is all cool and happy, but eventual slip us to try and bridge inconsistencies and that sometimes shoots them in the foot.
Then we have Boruto manga universe....I have no idea what the hell is the motive here. Probably just a eager artist with a pencil excited to work on the project and insert his own interpretation. I can't even begin where he wants to go, but it probably ain't pretty.
Considering that we have Kishimoto's version, the new guys version, SPs version, and several other writers versions...I have no idea which version makes the most sense. Who's words do you take? God or his 12 diciples.
As for my interpretation out of of this.
Kishimoto probably was eager to do this at first, got bored, and now is just doing this for the paychecks. If you don't think this is true, then why isn't he writing Boruto now? Where is this new manga he is supposed to be making? Hey Oda, how long until One Piece is done again?
SP is doing it either for Hinata or for money. Probably both. They already admitted they are biased to her character so would it really surpise you?
And blah blah blah.
And no, I don't think Kishimoto is taking a "secret whiz all over them in Boruto." No, SP is more than happy to do that themselves and they don't even try. No, No, you see Kishimoto doesn't really give a kitten at this point and this is what I am a strong believer of.
If you know the truth, please tell me....otherwise, I can only go by what I see that goes on.
It's how Mortage works, its a loan you pay off over decades often.. She just destroyed her house.
It's very normal stress and I would not count it as an "unhappy thing".
*looks up as though in a thinking poise* Yeah, I totally remember my mother blowing her house up and in a fit of huge anger all because I asked why my dad wasn't around. *sarcasm*
I lived in a household where my father was a deadbeat and my mother never got that angry with questions about him. What kind of average person does that? Sakura might just need therapy for anger issues if that keeps up, but seeing how everyone thinks she is abusive...maybe she needs therapy after all.
Naruto isn't some happily ever after with rainbows and all, the world goes on and the like. Kishimoto structures it rather realistically with it still being happy, which I like.
You know what is also very realistic? Divorce, marrying the wrong person, going to jail for aiding terrorism,..Sasuke would be in prison for assault, battery, attempted murder, terrorism, and possibly even war crimes and that's just for starters. Sakura would have moved on from him a long time ago because no girl I have seen would stick around a guy like Sasuke who berates them severely...or hell, any of her friends would allow her to stay with a guy like that. A psychoanalyst would say she has stockholm syndrome and tell her she needs medical treatment. They probably would file a restraing order against him and Sasuke wouldn't even bother coming around. If not Sakura, the parents would definitly file one or at least go after him. Sasuke would be thrown in jail as well with charges of missed child support and possible child abuse. We also have Sakura getting into trouble for not filing a census and birth certificate with the government of Konoha and essentially Salad does not exist and cannot attend school, get a job, get banks accounts, or do any of that funs tuff because of a lack of social security. We are going for realism after all so I am going to assume we have a government record keeping. Which means that Salad is technically an illegal immigrant if we go by the idea that each Hidden Leaf is it's own nation. Sakura might even lose her kid if she goes through a psychological evalutation...especially with the temper and destruction of her home...and she might even lose custody of Salad for her to be adopted for Sakura is unfit to be a parent and in fear of the child's safety.
You ever heard of domestic violence? Fun little thing.
Naruto wouldn't even be with Hinata at all because knowing the kind of person he is he wouldn't really get over Sakura. I don't think Naruto would be happy either and probably would want to take marriage counceling talking about Naruto's workaholic nature, probably alcoholic nature, and other issues. Boruto would probably be on twitter bashing his father or facebook considering how even the kids of politicians get followed and watched. No doubt Boruto would get his dad in trouble. Imagine the nights where he went out and partied: "Hokage goes out and get hammered. Do we want a leader who is an alcoholic?" Is it true? Who cares? It sells papers. Especilly with no war going on people would be itching for any kind of news break. You might even see political figures on live debates talking like they know what is best for the nation of Konoha.
I can go on and on. No, you see, the kind of kitten you read in this story is anything, BUT realistic so I would kindly ask you to not use that word. And if you do think this is realistic I suggest you actually go outside and socialize and pay attention to how the world really works because it is nothing like how the Naruto world works. Naruto himself might also be under scutiny from news media diving into his personal life the same way our media here goes after Trump and every other politician. Not being political, just pointing out a fact. You might even have people not want Naruto to be Hokage, possible riots in the streets, and maybe some other things. Who knows? That is real life for you. One minute you think everything is okay, then the next people are scaring you with the Hidden Mist and nuclear weapons ISIS the new seven deadly swordsman. Naruto would be doing a lot more than just sitting at his desk filling out paperwork.
I do find it funny how you say Naruto isn't some "happily ever after," but say that they are also happy. Well, which is it? They are either happy or they aren't. It takes more than just one or two instances that prove to me that this marriage isn't a happy one. A perfect couple usually talks it out sometimes about their issues with each other. Especially if it is causing rifts in the family. The fact that Naruto doesn't talk shows me something different...and a lot of other different things.
And even if there is no real issued between Hinata and Naruto....people can get bored or fall out of love. How interesting would the Naruto story be if that happened? It is not happily ever after after all. Things like this can happen. Jeff Dunham has divorced his wife, married another, and had 2 more kids with the eldest daughter from the other marriage getting married soon. So realistically, it is quite possible for NH to just fall a part due to falling out of love or lack of intersting. Hell, Naruto could even cheat if he is bored enough.
So no, Naruto is nowhere near realistic. If it was...we wouldn't be having this conversation. Take care now. Bye bye then.
Sakura is and can take care of herself. I don't think Naruto needs to aid her that way.
So, if it was your friend, you wouldn't help at all because it is not your responsibility? Thank God, I am not your best friend. I would have been screwed.
"Hey, my car broke down can you come pick me up?"
"Sorry, that's not my responsibility. Get yourself out." *hangs up*
Heartless...heartless, heartless people.
Sakura can take care of herself? Is that why she is worried about the loan? Is that why according to Shizune she is fainting a lot? That's taking care of herself?.....Alright. Again, not convincing me. If this is taking care of herself...I would hate to see if she was slacking in her duties.
Again, One mom...two brothers...no dad.....nothing even similar to Sakura and how he is portrayed. Realistic? No way. The only way this would even be realistic is if Sakura was like 17 with a 5 year old kid. Also, my mother never lied about my father. Ever and hey, at least they have wedding photos.
Edited by James S Cassidy, 26 October 2017 - 02:55 AM.
