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[BlueStarSaber]

I have seen the third argument before on TV Trope were they tried to use it to bash sakura about how she hasn't changed, only to reluctantly ass in later that naruto might of been implying that she was fine to begin with

[Illnevergiveup3]

.......... *sigh* here we go again.
 
1. He said Haku was prettier than Sakura- so does that mean he's kitten-attracted Haku then? And he also called Hinata a "dark weird girl" upon introduction, what's your point? He, at AT NO TIME in the story called Hinata beautiful either or a smoking hot goddess like all of you. If you can show me an episode or manga page where he ACTUALLY SAID THAT, show it to me.
 
2. He was confused about  why Sakura put that title in. And that is not a to say he doesn't think Sakura is attractive. I remember how he was blushing in chapter/episode 3 about saying Sakura was cute? not to mention this was before Hinata was introduced.
 
3. WELL, I bring up point 1 again. DID HE CALL HINATA BEAUTIFUL? WELL? You all seem to be under this impression that Naruto did not find Sakura physically attractive, but he wasn't physically attracted to Hinata either, and the manga indicated he wasn't attracted to Hinata if you really want to push that because he doesn't say it. and if you REALLY WANT TO BRING UP that filler episode why hasn't that scene ever been brought up again? Better yet WHY HAS that not ever changed his mind on Hinata till last second?

They also have to think. Naruto has attempted to call her beautiful, asked her on dates, when Konohamaru called her his girl etc. in part 1. And she always gets mad at him for doing it until he stopped doing it due to the promise. So, Naruto, who’s love for her is much more mature by the time of 245, obviously wouldn’t flat out call her beautiful, because in his mind, that’s like forbidden territory. In his mind it wasn’t alright before. But he doesn’t realize that Sakura-Chan is alright with it now and WANTS him to call her beautiful. Then again, he always thought that she was beautiful, so when he said, “you look fine. Haven’t changed a bit.” He was basically saying, “you’re Sakura-Chan, you’re beautiful, you’ve always been beautiful, and that won’t change.” But, of course he won’t ADMIT that to her yet. She stopped getting mad when he asked her on dates, and instead allowed him to take her if he had money to pay or she would say something that suggests if they weren’t busy, then she would allow it. He described her as a “beautiful girl/babe that he likes.” In the Chapter 3. Which means he has feelings for her and thinks she is beautiful and sexually attractive. I don’t understand why people can’t just realize that Naruto loves the girl to pieces.

[Phantom_999]

Konohamaru called her a babe upon meeting her and Iwaki said she became really pretty too since they last saw her, So I don't understand where this idea came that Sakura is considered ugly?

Edited by Phantom_999, 20 December 2020 - 11:45 PM.

[Derock]

Konohamaru called her a babe upon meeting her and Iwaki said she became really pretty too since they last saw her, So I don't understand where this idea came that Sakura is considered ugly?

 

Don't forget about Zabuza during the War arc, outright called her beautiful when he saw her.

[Illnevergiveup3]

 

Don't forget about Zabuza during the War arc, outright called her beautiful when he saw her.

 

 

Konohamaru called her a babe upon meeting her and Iwaki said she became really pretty too since they last saw her, So I don't understand where this idea came that Sakura is considered ugly?

 

They're trying to say that Naruto doesn't think she's as beautiful as we think Naruto thinks she is, to ultimately use that as an argument that Naruto doesn't love her romantically. When we all know that Naruto called Sakura-Chan, "A beautiful girl/babe that I like." And then in the same chapter said he finally realized why he loves her. Meaning, to him, she is a beautiful and sexually attractive girl that he loves, and now he knows exactly why he loves that beautiful and sexually attractive girl beyond those very reasons. He realized his feelings for Sakura-Chan was deeper than just him liking her by actually having a chance to speak to her and notice her personality. 

 

They say all NS moments is comedic relief... so I guess Chapter 457 when Naruto admits that he loves Sakura-Chan, Sakura-Chan's confession, Yamato acknowleding Sakura-Chan's feelings for Naruto, Sakura-Chan trying to run after Naruto when he was in a 4-Tails state, the Promise of a LifeTime, Their second bell test, their date after Sasuke left, Naruto protecting her from Gaara, Sakura-Chan cheering Naruto on and vice versa, the Impossible dream scene, the CPR scene, etc. is all comedic relief?

 

They also say that Sakura-Chan only started to want and notice him when he became a hero, while Hinata wanted him from day one. Yet, in Chapter 4, Sakura-Chan was already shown admiring Naruto's strength and acknowledging how cool he was due to his Kage Bunshin technique. Even going as far as blushing over it. Besides, I didn't know love worked like that anyways. He's in love with Sakura-Chan for various reasons, but he has to love Hinata because she's been admiring him from trees, bushes, and rooftops all of his life? No, his heart chooses Sakura-Chan, he gave reasons WHY he loves her. Sakura-Chan gave reasons WHY she loves Naruto. Now, ask Hinata why she loves Naruto, ask Sakura-Chan why she likes Sasuke... all you will hear is *crickets* Well, maybe from Sakura-Chan she will mention the day at the bench, but that's when Naruto comes in and she realizes Naruto is one who truly has the key to her heart.

 

When Naruto thinks about his comrades, who is always front and center? None other than Sakura-Chan because she is the center of his universe.

 

Like I said, they only try to read the scenes with Hinata in it, while ignoring the hundreds upon hundreds of NS proof in the Manga. They try to find anything to stick, but can't because the whole story was NS centric when it came to romance. Obito got his girl, Jiraiya got his girl, even though he's dead, Minato got his, it's only right if Naruto, the main damn character got the girl of his dreams and surpassed all of his predecessors in that department.

Edited by Illnevergiveup3, 21 December 2020 - 12:56 AM.

[Phantom_999]

Again my counter argument to that is that if they think Naruto doesn't  love Sakura because he doesn't state she is beautiful, then it doesn't apply to Hinata either

Edited by Phantom_999, 21 December 2020 - 11:54 AM.

[Illnevergiveup3]

did anybody notice during the confession that Naruto had flashbacks of all the times Sakura-Chan either cried over Sasuke or about the promise? That's another reason he had a hard time believing her.  The problem with that is that Naruto never saw all of the times that Sakura-Chan has cried over him and all of the affection she shows to him when he wasn't looking. That's why I say, when Naruto finally gets to witness it himself, is when he will finally confess and believe her when she does as well.

[Phantom_999]

He was unconsious when she did, or he interrupted her, when she wanted to make it known.  not to mention he WAS blushing when Sakura offered to feed him so he knew the implications, and the look on his face when she hugged him in front of everyone says it all. Again my problem is the double standards NH fans have for these moments. They DON'T want to acknowledge that Sakura is having any romantic moments with Naruto then have the gall to say Sakura always rejected Naruto's and therefore never loved him and never will, because Hinata is Naruto's "nekkid cuddling yum yum reservation." ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
You can argue all you want how Hinata always loved Naruto but don't give me that hypocritical kitten of going on a tirade on how Sakura doesn't deserve Naruto because she never accepted his feelings then going on dismissing every hint of her reciprocating his feelings as "it is only platonic/familial." 

Edited by Phantom_999, 25 January 2021 - 05:36 PM.

[Illnevergiveup3]

He was unconsious when she did, or he interrupted her, when she wanted to make it known.  not to mention he WAS blushing when Sakura offered to feed him so he knew the implications, and the look on his face when she hugged him in front of everyone says it all. Again my problem is the double standards NH has for these moments. They DON'T want to acknowledge that Sakura is having any romantic moments with Naruto then have the gall to say Sakura always rejected Naruto's and therefore never loved him and never will, because Hinata is Naruto's "nekkid cuddling yum yum reservation." ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
You can argue all you want how Hinata always loved Naruto but don't give me that hypocritical kitten of  giving a tirade of how Sakura doesn't deserve Naruto because she never accepted his feelings then going on disissing every hint of her reciprocating his feelings as "it is only platonic/familial." 

Pure FACTS. 💯💯💯

Like imagine if he woke right in the middle of her doing CPR on him while pouring the last of her chakra into him? Or if he was conscious during the whole Tenchi Bridge Scene when she was crying over him and just letting her feelings out.

Then again, he never doubted her feelings for him. It was just the whole Sasuke thing that confused him obviously. But, something huge like that CPR scene would definitely erase all doubt from his mind or something like her kissing him in front of Sasuke😁😁😁

Edited by Illnevergiveup3, 21 December 2020 - 04:56 PM.

[Illnevergiveup3]

from now on, anytime anyone feels the need to respond back to a NH/SS'er, just remind them of Haku's words- "You get stronger when you fight for someone who is THE MOST precious to you."

 

Then link it to a scan of Naruto fighting for Sakura-Chan against Gaara.

 

Just close the case afterwards.

[James S Cassidy]

Okay, lol. So, now apparently on the NH/SSs new episode of "Naruto never loved Sakura." The new reasons this week is because:

1. He said Haku was prettier than Sakura-Chan(lol, really?)

2. When Sakura-Chan was explaining to Naruto about the chakra control for the tree climbing exercise, and she called the lesson, Beautiful Girl Sakura's Lesson on Chakra Control they claim Naruto thought the opposite all because of how he tilted his head and repeated the name of the lesson like a question.

3. Because he didn't just flat out call her beautiful when she asked if she looked more womanly.



Can't wait to tune in for next week's episode of "Naruto doesn't love Sakura."

I mean really? There really trying to find anything at this point.

 

   

Amazing how they want to play such a huge game of "prove to me Naruto loves Sakura," but when asked when has Sasuke ever done the same things they not only draw blanks, but they make excuses like "he just didn't want to openly admit it because he is closeted about his emotions."

Literally, the excuses I hear for Sasuke on the same stuff is literally clear cases of stockholm syndrome cranked up.

"He didn't mean it."
"He has a hard time expressing himself."
"He will open up eventually"
"That is his way of expressing himself."
"He was playing around and got too rough."

I swear if you told me Sasuke beats Sakura all the time and she uses her medical ninjutsu to heal the bruises....I wouldn't be surprised.

And it is amazing how they us all this logic to discredit NS, but try to do the same towards NH and SS and they start making excuses and claiming "there are exceptions because they are different people."

The fact that the "reasons" are getting worse is telling me that they are running out of options and excuses.

Like I said, I have heard people say Sakura is a terrible woman because "she didn't help protect the village from Pain and let the town get destroyed." Meanwhile, Hinata and the rest of the cast get an easy pass.

So what it is NH and SS fans? Is Sakura the main heroine or is she not? They seem to only call her the main heroine when she messes up, but claim Hinata is the main heroine when Hinata does something right.

[Phantom_999]

Im gonna assume the double standard with the Pain invasion argument is that Hinata fought to protect Naruto thats all that matters. But if Sakura did it they would call her an idiot and that she doesnt have faith in Naruto and she gets what she deserves if she almost dies in the attempt.

Edited by Phantom_999, 22 December 2020 - 11:49 AM.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Im gonna assume the double standard with the Pain invasion argument is that Hinata fought to protect Naruto thats all that matters. But if Sakura did it they would call her an idiot and that she doesnt have faith in Naruto and she gets what she deserves if she almost dies in the attempt.

Which also shows the BS hypocrisy of NH fans, since for Hinata, she didn't believe in Naruto at all. She's NEVER believed in Naruto, even when he's done decent in situations she's seen him in action; Kiba, Neji especially after he took the 8 Trigrams 64 Palms, Obito managing to keep their teams from trying to reach Sasuke as part of his goals to try to wait to sway Sasuke to him with half-truths and half-lies, and then also with Pain.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

Speaking Pain... just listen to Sakura screaming for Naruto.




Kate Higgins has powerful voice acting.

[Phantom_999]

Amazing how they want to play such a huge game of "prove to me Naruto loves Sakura," but when asked when has Sasuke ever done the same things they not only draw blanks, but they make excuses like "he just didn't want to openly admit it because he is closeted about his emotions."

Literally, the excuses I hear for Sasuke on the same stuff is literally clear cases of stockholm syndrome cranked up.
"He didn't mean it."
"He has a hard time expressing himself."
"He will open up eventually"
"That is his way of expressing himself."
"He was playing around and got too rough."

I swear if you told me Sasuke beats Sakura all the time and she uses her medical ninjutsu to heal the bruises....I wouldn't be surprised.

And it is amazing how they us all this logic to discredit NS, but try to do the same towards NH and SS and they start making excuses and claiming "there are exceptions because they are different people."

The fact that the "reasons" are getting worse is telling me that they are running out of options and excuses.

Like I said, I have heard people say Sakura is a terrible woman because "she didn't help protect the village from Pain and let the town get destroyed." Meanwhile, Hinata and the rest of the cast get an easy pass.

So what it is NH and SS fans? Is Sakura the main heroine or is she not? They seem to only call her the main heroine when she messes up, but claim Hinata is the main heroine when Hinata does something right.

 
Correction. Sakura only is the main heroine IF SHE IS NOT A COUPLE WITH NARUTO Notice that the praises came after she married Sasuke. More or less.

Edited by Phantom_999, 23 December 2020 - 06:13 PM.

[Chatte]

 
Correction. Sakura only is the main heroine IF SHE IS NOT A COUPLE WITH NARUTO Notice that the praises came after she married Sasuke. More or less.

That's also a trend I observed and I'm like... Where were you when the Sakura hate went rampant??

Not to mention, they literally had to turn Sasuke into a Naruto so he can fit with Sakura and I'm always like OH THE IRONY.

He had to become this warm husband who has absolute faith in his wife's strength.

Wow, wonder who that reminds me of...
Oh wait! Right. Naruto.

He had faith in Sakura since day 1!

[Dalton.T.R]

Speaking of the Pein fight...

 

Who remembers this?

 

 

Talk about a YouTube fossil! 

[BlueStarSaber]

I can answer that for you. There are multiple instances of SP creating filler materials that Sakura is considered ugly. In addition to this, they severely messed up her canon designs and made her part 2 clothes unflattering (they literally changed the lengths) & figure-hiding and her hair awful. We all know Sakura looks great in the manga, but in the anime it's a different story. It is unflattering unfortunately.

Aside from their purposeful butchering of her character design, the first filler it was Konohamaru who called her such (I think it was specifically her forehead). I can't remember if he did so in the manga but what we do know is that in the source material he called Sakura a 'babe' or the equivalent of that when he asked if she was Naruto's girlfriend.

Another instance is Naruto calling Sakura ugly after he woke up or something. He was probably grogy but the point still stands that it is contradictory to the manga. I know, disgusting right? Then there's Sai, but Sai also called Ino ugly, and in Sakura's case she's regarded as beautiful in the manga. I believe that would have just been his own personal tastes. There might be more out there but this is all I remember from the anime.

I seriously f***ing hate Studio Perriot and their adaptation of Sakura. Not only did they fabricate and uplift Hinata who's a minor secondary character and is barely in the manga, they fabricated all of these lies that Sakura is ugly, Sakura is flat-chested, Sakura is a b*** etc. Etc. I cannot with this studio.

It's really easy to pinpoint who has and hasn't read the manga when you see all of the BS people spew. Extremely easy.

 

I believe Konohamaru did insult Sakura, but I believe the insults were her being a witch for hitting naruto and then wondered if she was even a female after getting a first hand experience of sakura's strength, he did however call her a hottie when he thought Naruto and her were going out. Though I don't know what translation the anime used in sub and can't recall the dub.

Edited by BlueStarSaber, 24 December 2020 - 02:20 AM.

[Illnevergiveup3]

That's also a trend I observed and I'm like... Where were you when the Sakura hate went rampant??

Not to mention, they literally had to turn Sasuke into a Naruto so he can fit with Sakura and I'm always like OH THE IRONY.

He had to become this warm husband who has absolute faith in his wife's strength.

Wow, wonder who that reminds me of...
Oh wait! Right. Naruto.

He had faith in Sakura since day 1!

And Hinata had to become a Sakura. What a coincidink. As long as everything stays as it is, it will always flop. Taking two characters personalities that meshes with each other(NS) and giving it to Sasuke and Hinata, so NH/SS could still fail as a couple. Because NH/SS even with the stolen personalities is no substitute for the real thing(NS).

[Phantom_999]

Hinata HAD TO LOOK AS DELECTABLE AS POSSIBLE in their eyes