Heaven and Earth Deity
Posted 21 March 2014 - 09:37 PM
I remember that, I tested it and it turned out to be true.
I still don't understand how the hell Google in english finds over 21 million NaruHina results though...
I am even more confuse by the fact that Bing! gives different results.
Google is a NH shipper 
Undisputed King of the Dinosaurs
Posted 21 March 2014 - 09:51 PM
well then looks like I'll be using 2 search engines from now on.
Legendary Ninja
Posted 21 March 2014 - 11:07 PM
So when they are couple will Naruto still have to pay all the dates?
He'll probably just want to do it any way. It's a guy thing.
We know that Sakura isn't the type of girl to pretend to like a guy for a free meal (those type of girls are complete trash, even call girls have more dignity), so if he didn't have money a certain day she would surely treat him instead.
Kyuubi
Posted 22 March 2014 - 12:00 AM
I just realized that RtN pretty much establishes where all 3 of the big shipping relationships stand
Naruto is just not interested in Hinata (He respects normal Hinata and is afraid of scary Hinata)
Sakura only thinks she likes Sasuke until she finds out later in the film that he's actually a prick and doesn't care about her at all
And finally the entire movie is one big NS moment
If Kishi for whatever reason doesn't make NS canon, its going to make the entire movie as well as all the filler NS moments in the anime and other movies (yes ofcourse they are non-canon but they seemed to be confident about it almost as if they know something we don't) and huge moments like 297 and 631 seem....pointless 
out of curiosity why are people counting 663 as a huge NS moment (I know its not because of the CPR) she says that she's not going to let him die because his dream of becoming hokage is so close to happening. I'm not saying it isn't an NS moment I'm just wondering why people count it as one of the significant ones.
Heaven and Earth Deity
Posted 22 March 2014 - 12:10 AM
Banned
Posted 22 March 2014 - 01:06 AM
Undisputed King of the Dinosaurs
Posted 22 March 2014 - 01:09 AM
I just realized that RtN pretty much establishes where all 3 of the big shipping relationships stand
Naruto is just not interested in Hinata (He respects normal Hinata and is afraid of scary Hinata)
Sakura only thinks she likes Sasuke until she finds out later in the film that he's actually a prick and doesn't care about her at all
And finally the entire movie is one big NS moment
If Kishi for whatever reason doesn't make NS canon, its going to make the entire movie as well as all the filler NS moments in the anime and other movies (yes ofcourse they are non-canon but they seemed to be confident about it almost as if they know something we don't) and huge moments like 297 and 631 seem....pointless
out of curiosity why are people counting 663 as a huge NS moment (I know its not because of the CPR) she says that she's not going to let him die because his dream of becoming hokage is so close to happening. I'm not saying it isn't an NS moment I'm just wondering why people count it as one of the significant ones.
oh the movies ARE in fact canon, we just cant pinpoint where they exactly fall in the Naruto story line, so we have to guess based on the cast of characters that appear in them. most anime movies are canon to their tv show counterparts, just look at the first poke'mon movie.
the writers of both the show and the movie have made it rather clear that it is canon to the show. so we could do the same with the Naruto movies.
Kyuubi
Posted 22 March 2014 - 01:24 AM
Just to be clear Kushina's statement said that she wanted him to find someone like her or to not fall for the first girl he meant because I keep finding translations in both even in other source materials
Undisputed King of the Dinosaurs
Posted 22 March 2014 - 01:43 AM
Just to be clear Kushina's statement said that she wanted him to find someone like her or to not fall for the first girl he meant because I keep finding translations in both even in other source materials
That still Sakura who is going to get with him...
Edited by TyranntX, 22 March 2014 - 01:43 AM.
Jounin
Heaven and Earth Deity
Posted 22 March 2014 - 01:59 AM
Interesting thing I noticed.
Sasuke and Sakura: Relationship started out rocky, maintained being rocky, and is rockier to this day. What started out as potholes turned into massive cliffs. In the words of Yahtzee: "Whoops, talk about side-stepping a pothole only to fall off a cliff."
Naruto and Hinata: Started out easy. Too easy almost. There was no bickering or problems between them. The trail was a smooth ride which seemed like all that was needed was the car to be turned around. Now that smooth ride has become a downhill slide with rocks and potholes abound. The bumps rattle your teeth, but not enough to really cause problems. Just aggravation and annoying. It also doesn't seem to be getting any better either seeing how the pairing needs to constantly get out and repair the flat-tires after hitting a sharp rock. I wonder how many spare tires this car has left?
Naruto and Sakura: Starts out as a rocky road. Again, nothing bone shattering or life threatening, but just annoying and aggravation. The road keeps going for a while; soon the holes get smaller and less deep. The rocks turn to pebbles that soon the car just easy crackles on. Sure you might see a big rock every so miles, but nothing too big to not be able to weave around. The road is beginning to smooth itself out it and appears it is only going to get flatter the more you move forward.
out of curiosity why are people counting 663 as a huge NS moment (I know its not because of the CPR) she says that she's not going to let him die because his dream of becoming hokage is so close to happening. I'm not saying it isn't an NS moment I'm just wondering why people count it as one of the significant ones.
I don't know, why do people count 540 as a SS moment? Before anyone says "We don't," well...then why is it always called into question and why does it seem to trump all other moments before and after the fact? I know some think it does despite some denying such a claim. I am just saying that if it is not that big of a deal or that something else counter acts it, then people wouldn't be bringing it up in the first place.
The reason why 663 is such a big win for us is because of several things.
1. Sakura was specifically chosen to go with Gaara and Naruto.
2. Hinata fell flat on her face. Not the fact that she fell and seen as useless is what makes it, but the fact that the idea of Hinata being unable to be there even though she had every chance she had. The fact that she tripped and never got back up despite taking on Naruto's "Never give up" nindo.
3. Sakura is not giving up on Naruto's life and dream and very much wants to support it. Very similar to what Itachi said about Kushina to Minato who also supported his dream.
3.5. Sakura's response and unwillingness to give up similar to that of Karin's will to be by Sasuke. We know Karin is in love with Sasuke and you can clearly see both girls doing everything they can for this one special guy. There is a reason why they both are mirrored in that chapter and both were seen side by side.
4. Because out of all the possibilities Kishimoto could have written....this is what he set up. He set up something to happen in terms of Sakura's and Naruto's relationship. It is not end game just yet, but it is like the time is SAO when Asuna held on to Kirito when she thought he was dying and they ended up a couple in the end.
Edited by James S Cassidy, 22 March 2014 - 02:16 AM.
Heaven and Earth Deity
Posted 22 March 2014 - 02:08 AM
^Yeah.
SasuSaku's 'bout to blow up, and NaruHina punctured their wheel and died there.
ナルサク
Undisputed King of the Dinosaurs
Posted 22 March 2014 - 02:13 AM
Interesting thing I noticed.
Sasuke and Sakura: Relationship started out rocky, maintained being rocky, and is rockier to this day. What started out as potholes turned into massive cliffs. In the words of Yahtzee: "Whoops, talk about side-stepping a pothole only to fall off a cliff."
Naruto and Hinata: Started out easy. Too easy almost. There was no bickering or problems between them. The trail was a smooth ride which seemed like all that was needed was the car to be turned around. Now that smooth ride has become a downhill slide with rocks and potholes abound. The bumps rattle your teeth, but not enough to really cause problem. Just aggravation and annoying. It also doesn't seem to be getting any better either seeing how the pairing needs to constantly get out and repair the flat-tire after hitting a sharp rock. I wonder how many spare tires this car has left?
NaruSaku: Starts out as a rocky road. Again, nothing bone shattering or life threatening, but just annoying and aggravation. The road keeps going for a while, soon the holes get smaller and less deep. The rocks turn to pebbles that soon the car just easy crackles on. Sure you might see a big rock every so miles, but nothing too big to not be able to weave around. The road is beginning to smooth itself out it appear it is only going to get flatter the more you move forward.
I don't know, why do people count 540 as a SS moment? Before anyone says "We don't," well...then why is it always called into question and why does it seem to trump all other moments before and after the fact? I know some think it does despite some denying such a claim. I am just saying that if it is not that big of a deal or that something else counter acts it, then people wouldn't be bringing it up in the first place.
The reason why 663 is such a big win for us is because of several things.1. Sakura was specifically chosen to go with Gaara and Naruto.
2. Hinata fell flat on her face. Not the fact that she fell and seen as useless is what makes it, but the fact that the idea of Hinata being unable to be there even though she had every chance she had. The fact that tripped and never got back up despite taking on Naruto "Never give up" nindo.
3. Sakura is not giving up on Naruto to live and support his dream. Very similar to what Itachi said about Kushina to Minato who also supported his dream.
3.5. Sakura's response and unwillingness to give up similar to that of Karin's will to be by Sasuke. We know Karin is in love with Sasuke and you can clearly see both girls doing everything they can for this one special guy. There is a reason why they both are mirrored in that chapter and both were scene side by side.
4. Because out of all the possibilities Kishimoto could have written....this is what he set up. He set up something to happen in terms of Sakura's and Naruto's relationship. It is not end game just yet, but it is like the time is SAO when Asuna held on to Kirito when she thought he was dying and they ended up a couple in the end.
Spoken, Like a True NS fan
Kyuubi
Posted 22 March 2014 - 02:26 AM
Wasn't movie three directed by Kishi or something? I remember he had something to do with another movie other than RTN.
Not sure someone needs to check
I do know Movie 3 has atleast 2 minor NS moments so it would be nice if he did.
Interesting thing I noticed.
Sasuke and Sakura: Relationship started out rocky, maintained being rocky, and is rockier to this day. What started out as potholes turned into massive cliffs. In the words of Yahtzee: "Whoops, talk about side-stepping a pothole only to fall off a cliff."
Naruto and Hinata: Started out easy. Too easy almost. There was no bickering or problems between them. The trail was a smooth ride which seemed like all that was needed was the car to be turned around. Now that smooth ride has become a downhill slide with rocks and potholes abound. The bumps rattle your teeth, but not enough to really cause problems. Just aggravation and annoying. It also doesn't seem to be getting any better either seeing how the pairing needs to constantly get out and repair the flat-tires after hitting a sharp rock. I wonder how many spare tires this car has left?
Naruto and Sakura: Starts out as a rocky road. Again, nothing bone shattering or life threatening, but just annoying and aggravation. The road keeps going for a while; soon the holes get smaller and less deep. The rocks turn to pebbles that soon the car just easy crackles on. Sure you might see a big rock every so miles, but nothing too big to not be able to weave around. The road is beginning to smooth itself out it and appears it is only going to get flatter the more you move forward.
I don't know, why do people count 540 as a SS moment? Before anyone says "We don't," well...then why is it always called into question and why does it seem to trump all other moments before and after the fact? I know some think it does despite some denying such a claim. I am just saying that if it is not that big of a deal or that something else counter acts it, then people wouldn't be bringing it up in the first place.
The reason why 663 is such a big win for us is because of several things.
1. Sakura was specifically chosen to go with Gaara and Naruto.
2. Hinata fell flat on her face. Not the fact that she fell and seen as useless is what makes it, but the fact that the idea of Hinata being unable to be there even though she had every chance she had. The fact that she tripped and never got back up despite taking on Naruto's "Never give up" nindo.
3. Sakura is not giving up on Naruto's life and dream and very much wants to support it. Very similar to what Itachi said about Kushina to Minato who also supported his dream.
3.5. Sakura's response and unwillingness to give up similar to that of Karin's will to be by Sasuke. We know Karin is in love with Sasuke and you can clearly see both girls doing everything they can for this one special guy. There is a reason why they both are mirrored in that chapter and both were seen side by side.
4. Because out of all the possibilities Kishimoto could have written....this is what he set up. He set up something to happen in terms of Sakura's and Naruto's relationship. It is not end game just yet, but it is like the time is SAO when Asuna held on to Kirito when she thought he was dying and they ended up a couple in the end.
I don't see 540 as an SS moment (considering the context and all) I just think its a step backward for NS, the whole ambiguous feelings that Sakura has for Naruto is quickly fired down because of her persistent love for Sauce which leaves us to rely on chapter 297 the argument that "she loves Naruto she just isn't aware of it yet....despite clearly considering it as of the Land of iron arc"
and to be fair i do think its a huge hint that he picked Sakura to go with them as oppose to Shizune (who had just as much chakra left) but what exactly was Hinata even supposed to do even if she did catch-up? she has no medical knowledge atleast none shown so far so there's nothing she could really do that would be helpful
Edited by Pepsi, 22 March 2014 - 02:34 AM.
Heaven and Earth Deity
Posted 22 March 2014 - 02:32 AM
Um, it won't be out for a long time.did Naruto Shippuden ultimate ninja storm 4 come out yet ?
Heaven and Earth Deity
Posted 22 March 2014 - 02:47 AM
I don't see 540 as an SS moment (considering the context and all) I just think its a step backward for NS, the whole ambiguous feelings that Sakura has for Naruto is quickly fired down because of her persistent love for Sauce which leaves us to rely on chapter 297 the argument that "she loves Naruto she just isn't aware of it yet....despite clearly considering it as of the Land of iron arc"
and to be fair i do think its a huge hint that he picked Sakura to go with them as oppose to Shizune (who had just as much chakra left) but what exactly was Hinata even supposed to do even if she did catch-up? she has no medical knowledge atleast none shown so far so there's nothing she could really do that would be helpful
I don't see 540 as a step foreward or back for NS. I DO see it as a step backward for SasuSaku though. Like I said and have expressed thousands of times, what do you think the context of the scene would mean if Sakura thought of Naruto in a positive light right then and there? If the idea is to keep everything ambiguous until the end.....you can take it from here. Here is a hint: Is 540 the end of the manga? Nope. Reminds me again, if the obvious answer was Kabuto, why didn't Karin recognize him again? I am sure there is the story reason, but what's the writer's reason? What purpose could that serve?
Ironically, this is one chapter I don't see from a story stand point because it is a trick. A misdirection. Sure, it could be storywise explained with that whole "not realize it yet...," but in all honestly, the writing technique and purpose is very obvious. I nearly laughed when I finally realized it myself, but I guess not others see it this way.
Many of times I find people only look at half the information and many of times it has drove people into paranoia and anger. People tell me to see all possibilities and I have which is why I see this scene as much different than most others. Also ironic that the ones who tell me to look at all possibilities are the one who miss out on said possibilities themselves.
Bolded: You have asked the right question, good sir.
What was Hinata supposed to do? I am sure Kishimoto could have thought of something like hitting pressure points to restart the heart...forcing chakra into it to keep beating. It would make just as much sense as anything else in this manga. To go even further, why didn't Kishimoto have Hinata learn medical-jutsu as well? The anime sure took the liberty to give it to her, so Kishi could have easily done the same and no one would really care....for the most part. Some of us would be appalled at the lack of explanation, but...that is trivial.
Instead, why isn't Hinata standing by Naruto at that point? Shouldn't it be her if NH is supposed to be the end game? Seems like an opportune moment to do such a thing huh? I wonder why Kishimoto did that.
Spoken, Like a True NS fan
Why thank you.
Edited by James S Cassidy, 22 March 2014 - 02:50 AM.
Elite Jounin
Posted 22 March 2014 - 02:52 AM
Eh you can compare the pairing relations with simple fruit metaphors like this:
SasuSaku- Its basically like a fresh fruit gone rotten, it starts ripe and full of many uses rather than just eating it but it eventually decays and just at some point needs to be thrown out. Though it could be used for compost to help plants grow.
NaruHina- Its like that fruit you get canned or preserved, it just sticks around, you don't know what you should do with it even though it has an expatriation date. You take a bit of the fruit from time to time but then just leave it. Yet the longer it goes untouched, eventually it will be no good. You either need to use it more rather than at certain times or just throw it out after words because it will eventually spoil.
NaruSaku- It was like that apple/orange seed when first planted, it wouldn't grow, it not only had many things stacked against it, it had hard weather, pests, and animals around it to threaten it, yet it had a firm space of soil to take root in. As time when on, it was hard for the plant to grow but eventually it was rooted down, became resistant to the weather, and though some things were hard on it, it grew more and more to the point it has begun producing fresh fruit you could eat.
I find it funny how many metaphors we can make out of the pairings, I mean we can say NS is just a whole lot of Please? No, Please? No, Please? fine i'll see what you want. Or NH can be one of those novelty monkey toys with the cymbals that goes clang clang clang again and again.
Edited by Inferno180, 22 March 2014 - 02:53 AM.
Heaven and Earth Deity
Posted 22 March 2014 - 02:54 AM
Eh you can compare the pairing relations with simple fruit metaphors like this:
SasuSaku- Its basically like a fresh fruit gone rotten, it starts ripe and full of many uses rather than just eating it but it eventually decays and just at some point needs to be thrown out. Though it could be used for compost to help plants grow.
NaruHina- Its like that fruit you get canned or preserved, it just sticks around, you don't know what you should do with it even though it has an expatriation date. You take a bit of the fruit from time to time but then just leave it. Yet the longer it goes untouched, eventually it will be no good. You either need to use it at the right time or just throw it out after words.
NaruSaku- It was like that apple/orange seed when first planted, it wouldn't grow, it not only had many things stacked against it, it had hard weather, pests, and animals around it to threaten it, yet it had a firm space of soil to take root in. As time when on, it was hard for the plant to grow but eventually it was rooted down, became resistant to the weather, and though some things were hard on it, it grew more and more to the point it has begun producing fresh fruit you could eat.
I find it funny how many metaphors we can make out of the pairings, I mean we can say NS is just a whole lot of Please? No, Please? No, Please? fine i'll see what you want. Or NH can be one of those novelty monkey toys with the cymbals that goes clang clang clang again and again.
Im sorry I had to do this....and it fits well.
Heaven and Earth Deity
Posted 22 March 2014 - 03:06 AM
As much as I despise Hinata, I don't believe she gave up on Naruto like you've said. She wasn't able to get back up simply because of exhaustion, not because she decided to give up on him. It's like I have a never-give-up personality when I do my morning jogging, but some douchebag shoots me in both of my legs. I want to to continue jogging no matter what but I can't, because my legs have been blown off.2. Hinata fell flat on her face. Not the fact that she fell and seen as useless is what makes it, but the fact that the idea of Hinata being unable to be there even though she had every chance she had. The fact that she tripped and never got back up despite taking on Naruto's "Never give up" nindo.
Edited by luffyq1, 22 March 2014 - 05:12 AM.
Banned
Posted 22 March 2014 - 03:16 AM
If that was Naruto he would have kept going despite his body not responding to his mind . The example you gave there was a whole different ball game .As much as I despise Hinata, I don't believe she gave up on Naruto like you've said. She wasn't able to get back up simply because of exhausting, not because she decided to give up on him. It's like I have a never-give-up personality when I do my morning jogging, but some douchebag shoots me in both of my legs. I want to to continue jogging no matter what but I can't, because my legs have been blown off.
Do you honestly think Hinata doesn't want to be right there with Naruto helping him however she can? Well she can't, because her body won't allow her to.
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