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#26241 griff142

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Posted 11 May 2018 - 03:34 AM

Say do you guys think it would of been better for sakura's character if her motivation for being a shinobi was trying to make the name haruno known throughout the naruto world? Since her family is just a normal citizens and it could also give a reason why naruto fell for her.


I like that idea. Would have been better than having her just being a romantic plot device. Would have gotten rid of the fangirl of her character and maybe she would have been more popular.

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Posted 11 May 2018 - 04:35 PM

Yeah I think that some other motivation other than her being a love sick puppy would have earned her more fans maybe


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Posted 11 May 2018 - 04:42 PM

I said it before months ago, Masashi should had given Sakura an early introduction of admiring Tsunade and becoming a medic nin as a goal, instead of giving Tenten the admiration that went nowhere.


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Posted 11 May 2018 - 11:06 PM

I said it before months ago, Masashi should had given Sakura an early introduction of admiring Tsunade and becoming a medic nin as a goal, instead of giving Tenten the admiration that went nowhere.

The problem is that by the Time sakura introduced, i don't think Tsunade get planned. Heck i don't think the other Konoha eleven even exist, even Minato design is not the final design.

The kekei genkai itself is not finished concept. That's why most kg is advance element and only 3 kekkei genkai that's not element (sharingan, byakugan, and Kaguya Bone).

That's why it's kinda laughable when he said he is planning ss (and nh) from the beginning.

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Posted 11 May 2018 - 11:16 PM

Say do you guys think it would of been better for sakura's character if her motivation for being a shinobi was trying to make the name haruno known throughout the naruto world? Since her family is just a normal citizens and it could also give a reason why naruto fell for her.


It Will change the dynamic and it Will lose the love triangle set up. And if happen i don't think Naruto Will automaticly love sakura.

I think Naruto Will become like other shonen manga Hero who doesn't have any love interest. It Will end up like Bleach.

But it Will certainly help sakura popularity .

IMO, sakura need character development, more follow up, and more fighting. Kishi denied any of that and you asking why sakura is not popular.

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Posted 12 May 2018 - 04:29 AM

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Was just browsing around, and I'm not gonna lie my heartbeat skipped at seeing that image from the next Naruto Manga Set with our favorite ship :D, and you know what I wouldn't have considered buying it since it contains Volumes 28-48 (Start of Part II to Pain Arc) the issue? Volume 48 technically ends with the Five Kage Summit Arc start which ugh... I woud've Volume 48 end with Iruka saying There is a new hero risig or something like that. Would've made much more sense to be perfectly honest.  Outside of that little complaint it's probably the closest NaruSaku thing we have so far in terms of merchandise outside of Road to Ninja as far as US goes. Japan I know there is a lot of it.  

 

 

Btw I checked the back of the boxset too and Sasuke isn't shown at all anywhere near Sakura let alone Hinata next to Naruto for that matter. 

 

 

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Posted 12 May 2018 - 04:42 AM

There's something funny about Naruto being on Netflix. All of Naruto's movies are on there EXCEPT The Last for some reason.

I remember walking in a Best Buy, and found Road to Ninja and The Last next to one another. Road to Ninja was the standard price, The Last was $4.99. To my knowledge, a DVD less than $5 means it didn't sell.

 

So was I was just surfing the web, and came across this: 

 

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Say do you guys think it would of been better for sakura's character if her motivation for being a shinobi was trying to make the name haruno known throughout the naruto world? Since her family is just a normal citizens and it could also give a reason why naruto fell for her.

Sakura needed a better character motivation. Fangirling over Sasuke in the beginning is fine, but she needed a reason to be a ninja and a background story to get people interested in her. 

She also needed more to do, especially in Part 1. She was pretty much irrelevant during Part 1. Part 2 helped, but it wasn't enough. Kishimoto was just determined to keep that awkward love triangle going and yank his fans instead of putting his foot down and saying "This is where I"m going". Whenever Sakura was criticized, he thought making her "prettier" would make things all better.

 

I said it before months ago, Masashi should had given Sakura an early introduction of admiring Tsunade and becoming a medic nin as a goal, instead of giving Tenten the admiration that went nowhere.

I recall him saying a long time ago before the Pain invasion that he was planning a story/arc for both Kakashi and Sakura. Well, we all know how that turned out.



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Posted 12 May 2018 - 05:05 AM

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The second box set use drawing for popularity polling. The popularity polling at that time happen in beginning of part 2 during rescue garra arc.

That's why Sasuke is still in his part 1 self and i think Hinata is not in top Ten.

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Posted 12 May 2018 - 05:00 PM

Originally I was going to do a drawing of Sachi's academy graduation celebration pictures that Sakura mainly took, but I decided to use the the avatar creator that I used for the main characters of my book, and see what I could do. Now Sachi's hair for the most part is the one thing that's going to be a little different than how I drew her mainly due to the hair option choices, but I made it as close as I could to how I drew her.  I also wish the avatar creator had a way for me to incorporate more characters cause I would've easily done a photo of the entire family, but oh well a guy can dream. 

 

 

 

Anyway, Sachiko's Uzumaki's Graduation Celebration Selfies: 

 

 

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I may more later on, but I did manage to get Sachiko look like she's got an anime design which is something I've been meaning to do for a very long time. So seeing how it turned out is kinda unreal, and great to say the least. 


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Posted 13 May 2018 - 01:09 PM

"You don't really want to do this! You can change! You don't? You won't? Then I'll beat the crap out of you until you do!"


Ya and shock of all shocks they don't listen cause it's not peter and t'challa changed vulture or kilmonger but more so the villains changed the heroes. We never see that in Naruto. Heck try the talk no justu on thanos from infinity war see where that gets you naruto.

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 02:48 PM

Ya and shock of all shocks they don't listen cause it's not peter and t'challa changed vulture or kilmonger but more so the villains changed the heroes. We never see that in Naruto. Heck try the talk no justu on thanos from infinity war see where that gets you naruto.

 

I think the talk no jutsu was just an easy way for kishimoto to end a fight. Like he couldn't figure out a way to beat the villain so he just pulled out talk no jutsu and the villain would magically change his mind. This type of thing only worked with zabuza and gaara though, it didn't work so much with sasuke or obito. Just came off as shallow and pretentious.



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Posted 15 May 2018 - 12:15 AM

 
I think the talk no jutsu was just an easy way for kishimoto to end a fight. Like he couldn't figure out a way to beat the villain so he just pulled out talk no jutsu and the villain would magically change his mind. This type of thing only worked with zabuza and gaara though, it didn't work so much with sasuke or obito. Just came off as shallow and pretentious.


That and I feel that Kishi never wanted to kill people or some other reason, I mean that is all Naruto ever did was use the talk no justu to make everyone see things his way. Which really makes him just as bad as any of the villians that we know and have seen in many other shows and films.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 01:46 AM

That and I feel that Kishi never wanted to kill people or some other reason, I mean that is all Naruto ever did was use the talk no justu to make everyone see things his way. Which really makes him just as bad as any of the villians that we know and have seen in many other shows and films.

 

TnJ and it's equivalents are an easy way to try and redeem a character by bringing him closer to the hero's way of thinking, allowing for a more black and white setting. It's something that gets deconstructed more nowadays, like how in Re:Creators it was pointed out that beating people up would make them LESS likely to agree with you. Not to mention how Gundam SEED Destiny used it being torn apart by crossover games.


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 03:55 AM

I kept hearing from the western world that asian countries are demeaning of women... However in an ironic twist, its the male western fans who ended up influencing the ending (sawyer) to the cluster crap we got. I am worried about how we see women (maybe asian women to a certain extent) if Hinata is our supposed standard...

 

Real life strong beautiful women are the furthest thing from Hinata.

 

I was kinda of joking when I said this... I take back what I said... Its even worse...

 

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After the coffee shop closed, he told me about his passion for anime and comic books. I cringed. Was I talking to one of those white guys with weird Asian fetishes? I decided not to be so judgmental and just continued to listen and ask questions. After all, I used to watch my fair share of Naruto back in middle school.

He elaborated on his love for this specific anime character I never heard of and said I kind of looked like her. Then, he abruptly grabbed my face and tried to kiss me. I pulled away and said I had to go home.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:00 AM

 

I was kinda of joking when I said this... I take back what I said... Its even worse...

 

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After the coffee shop closed, he told me about his passion for anime and comic books. I cringed. Was I talking to one of those white guys with weird Asian fetishes? I decided not to be so judgmental and just continued to listen and ask questions. After all, I used to watch my fair share of Naruto back in middle school.

He elaborated on his love for this specific anime character I never heard of and said I kind of looked like her. Then, he abruptly grabbed my face and tried to kiss me. I pulled away and said I had to go home.

:facepalm:  :facepalm:  :facepalm:

At least those other guys were not doing anything to harm her. But this Hinata fan-! It's disgusting, invading someone's personal space just because you're in love with an anime character! At least when it gets this messed up in Japan, they buy themselves sex dolls. She should have punched him across the face for that, and in response to that other girl, NO. No stranger has the right to touch you, no matter how "flattering" you may find the attraction.

 

This is what Kishi sold out to. People with severe social problems instead of actual fans who distinguish between fantasy and reality.



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Posted 15 May 2018 - 04:57 PM

At least those other guys were not doing anything to harm her. But this Hinata fan-! It's disgusting, invading someone's personal space just because you're in love with an anime character! At least when it gets this messed up in Japan, they buy themselves sex dolls. She should have punched him across the face for that, and in response to that other girl, NO. No stranger has the right to touch you, no matter how "flattering" you may find the attraction.

 

This is what Kishi sold out to. People with severe social problems instead of actual fans who distinguish between fantasy and reality.

It's unlikely that he was a Hinata fan considering that she said she used to watch Naruto yet expressed that the anime character was one she never heard of. He thought she reciprocated his interest because she showed interest in what he was talking about and he was socially inept. That was the only thing she did wrong. If someone makes you cringe when you're talking to them there is a reason for that. Your brain is trying to send you warning signs. Just saying you like anime is not going to make someone cringe. If someone makes you cringe then you should leave. 



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Posted 15 May 2018 - 05:19 PM

It's unlikely that he was a Hinata fan considering that she said she used to watch Naruto yet expressed that the anime character was one she never heard of. He thought she reciprocated his interest because she showed interest in what he was talking about and he was socially inept. That was the only thing she did wrong. If someone makes you cringe when you're talking to them there is a reason for that. Your brain is trying to send you warning signs. Just saying you like anime is not going to make someone cringe. If someone makes you cringe then you should leave. 

 

There is a probability of about a 100 percent that he is a Naruto fan (the most mainstream anime since DBZ and Pokemon), and even if its not the case, Hinata is a living anime stereotype aka the shy girl with big boobs who worships the ground you walk.

 

The guy was doing everything wrong in order to win her interest. Girls HATE it when guys are being obnoxiously narcissistic, and talk kitten about their ex for 15 minutes (all red flags). You are supposed to make her talk and not the other way around.

 

Women are different  and they can't be as direct as men when expressing their emotions and especially disagreements. Girls tend to be careful not to hurt our feelings (especially when they reject a guy) because evolution has designed them to be more prone to empathy.

 

A grown up man with an ex girlfriend, he should have  figured that one already... Inexcusable

 

Hinata fans tend to be "nice guys" like sawyermage and Fornerworld who seem to be awkward with people especially women.


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 06:10 PM

 

There is a probability of about a 100 percent that he is a Naruto fan (the most mainstream anime since DBZ and Pokemon), and even if its not the case, Hinata is a living anime stereotype aka the shy girl with big boobs who worships the ground you walk.

 

But he said he loved a certain character that she apparently looked like. I can't imagine a Chinese girl looking like Hinata. He was a dead man walking regardless.



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Posted 15 May 2018 - 11:51 PM

That and I feel that Kishi never wanted to kill people or some other reason, I mean that is all Naruto ever did was use the talk no justu to make everyone see things his way. Which really makes him just as bad as any of the villians that we know and have seen in many other shows and films.


Let's see him try that with Deadpool and dp tricks him into listening to him but fakes him out with a bullet to the head.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 11:52 PM

But he said he loved a certain character that she apparently looked like. I can't imagine a Chinese girl looking like Hinata. He was a dead man walking regardless.

 

The point is that anime was a mistake... and I am the first one said it  :zaru:







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