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[jak123]

https://youtu.be/OtpmfJU3vEs

basically 8:15 is how i see boruto

Am I the only one who think the backlash against Sarada's design is overblown? I see it as she's only sexual if you choose to sexualize her plus her showing bare leg is the least of Boruto's myriad of problems.

[KClaws_2]

Just saw a video from that same channel explaining why boruto and sarada will end up together and the thumbnail is boruto holding sarada like naruto holds sakura in rtn. I guess it's fine to bash ns but also go ahead and take a ns moment for your borusara art

He seems rather clickbaity. He also has a video saying 10 things you didn't know about Sakura Uchiha (shudders), and in the background is some NS fanart. Like...why put that in there if you're anti-NS?

 

Am I the only one who think the backlash against Sarada's design is overblown? I see it as she's only sexual if you choose to sexualize her plus her showing bare leg is the least of Boruto's myriad of problems.

They have a 12 year old girl dress up like a hooker, I think the backlash is justified. Naruto of old never heavily relied on fanservice, and it was doing fine. Even girls in ecchi shows dress up more sensibly than her

[jak123]

He seems rather clickbaity. He also has a video saying 10 things you didn't know about Sakura Uchiha (shudders), and in the background is some NS fanart. Like...why put that in there if you're anti-NS?

 

They have a 12 year old girl dress up like a hooker, I think the backlash is justified. Naruto of old never heavily relied on fanservice, and it was doing fine. Even girls in ecchi shows dress up more sensibly than her

See you thinking she looks like a hooker is your opinion. I think people focus to heavily on what she's wearing. You think she looks like a hooker, you are choosing to sexualize her.

[Phantom_999]

I really don't care either way. I am just laughing at the fact that NarSaku is always treated like "devil worship" by Hinata fans yet they hypocritically are fine with Brato and Sarada. And I look forward to the day, should it come, that Brato ends up with Sumire and the Hinata fans eat their hearts out and I slap their own anti- NaruSaku logic in their faces

Edited by Phantom_999, 06 May 2019 - 01:12 PM.

[DrK]

See you thinking she looks like a hooker is your opinion. I think people focus to heavily on what she's wearing. You think she looks like a hooker, you are choosing to sexualize her.

Yeah. It's not that Sarada dresses like a hooker. Ikemoto is just a terrible artist.

[totherpage95]

According to animeballsdeep onoki has to be dealt with because he is evil in boruto... why onoki? Wasnt he a protagonist in naruto why is he now suddenly evil enough to kill off... oh who am I kidding boruto is a series that lets sasuke and orochimaru do whatever they like

[Bail o' Lies]

According to animeballsdeep onoki has to be dealt with because he is evil in boruto... why onoki? Wasn't he a protagonist in naruto why is he now suddenly evil enough to kill off... oh who am I kidding boruto is a series that lets sasuke and orochimaru do whatever they like

He had became a cynical old man when he was introduced in Naruto, but one quick question from Gaara changed that. He then became the closest thing to the heart of the Five Kage during their battle with Madara keeping everyone going when they were thing about laying down to die. Like I said before, they just using him as a villain to link Boruto to Naruto.

 

animeballsdeep... Who is that? *looks him up* Is that the same jack ass from that last video you linked? What an awful immature name. He is saying that Bolt or Naruto should kill Onoki. Do they know what show they are watching? Wait they think the manga is awesome never-mind.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 02 December 2018 - 08:53 PM.

[totherpage95]

He had became a cynical old man when he was introduced in Naruto, but one quick question from Gaara changed that. He then became the closest thing to the heart of the Five Kage during their battle with Madara keeping everyone going when they were thing about laying down to die. Like I said before, they just using him as a villain to link Boruto to Naruto.
Its starting to make sense that they need the mangaka to intercede if the anime planned to kill of boruto because they dont mind making the protagonist a enemy
 
animeballsdeep... Who is that? *looks him up* Is that the same jack ass from that last video you linked? What an awful immature name. He is saying that Bolt or Naruto should kill Onoki. Do they know what show they are watching? Wait they think the manga is awesome never-mind.

Its starting to make sense that they need the mangaka to intercede if the anime planned to kill off boruto because they dont mind making the protagonist a enemy ( not that I would mind boruto dying lol)

[Bail o' Lies]

Its starting to make sense that they need the mangaka to intercede if the anime planned to kill off boruto because they don't mind making the protagonist a enemy ( not that I would mind boruto dying lol)

The writer had to approve this story before they do it. So, Kodachi already gave his blessing to this plot.

 

They won't kill off the son of Hinata...though they may be making plans constantly to kill off the daughter of Sakura.

[Phantom_999]

According to animeballsdeep onoki has to be dealt with because he is evil in boruto... why onoki? Wasnt he a protagonist in naruto why is he now suddenly evil enough to kill off... oh who am I kidding boruto is a series that lets sasuke and orochimaru do whatever they like

 

 

Mmm, no. Onoki was not a "protagonist", he was an essential supporting character during the war arc. I think is what you are tying to say, but other than that agreed. It just seems like another shock value thing just for the hell of it I guess

[DrK]

 

 

Mmm, no. Onoki was not a "protagonist", he was an essential supporting character during the war arc. I think is what you are tying to say, but other than that agreed. It just seems like another shock value thing just for the hell of it I guess

Replacing Naruto with Onoki as the protagonist would have worked better than making Hinata the heroine, though.

Edited by DrK, 04 December 2018 - 12:35 AM.

[Yyubie]

I know the Mitsuki arc has a lot of problems: it’s too long, spends too little time with Mitsuki, and so on.

But for me, the biggest issue is the parents. I know the writers can’t have the adults involved because then the plot would be over. But I can’t believe that NONE of the parents go after their kids. Every one of these kids is the heir apparent to a major clan. Sarada is the only possible heir to the Uchiha clan, period. Hokage’s orders or no, there’s no way these clans would leave their kids’ safety to a few tracker jonin. Most of these clans would be sending out small militias to recover their progeny. 

You can’t tell me that Sakura “I will brute-force my way through multiple dimensions to get Sasuke back” Haruno would be wringing her hands and waiting for her daughter to get home. Hinata maybe, because she’s a doormat when it comes to Naruto, but Sakura? No way.

Actually…what is Naruto doing? His son just went missing to run after a serial killer’s clone. The Naruto I remember would be sending a million shadow clones out in a panic to search for his kid. Shikamaru would have to sedate him to keep him from leaving the Hokage tower. 

Seriously, I don’t recognize any of these characters on the screen anymore.

 

Copy Paste from : http://kyriolex.tumb...the-mitsuki-arc

 

BOLD : Naruto send a lot of shadow clone to search for Sasuke and he didn't send any to look for his brat we all know who he love the most!!

 

From what i know (correct me if i'm wrong i didn't watch it) these bunch of brat going to another country unsupervised by any adult ninja. In part one naruto each 3 kids always going on outside with their jounin sensei. Bad story telling or the parent didn't care about their brat.

Edited by Yyubie, 05 December 2018 - 12:13 PM.

[Bail o' Lies]

"I know the Mitsuki arc has a lot of problems: it’s too long, spends too little time with Mitsuki, and so on.

But for me, the biggest issue is the parents. I know the writers can’t have the adults involved because then the plot would be over. But I can’t believe that NONE of the parents go after their kids. Every one of these kids is the heir apparent to a major clan. Sarada is the only possible heir to the Uchiha clan, period. Hokage’s orders or no, there’s no way these clans would leave their kids’ safety to a few tracker jonin. Most of these clans would be sending out small militias to recover their progeny. 

You can’t tell me that Sakura “I will brute-force my way through multiple dimensions to get Sasuke back” Haruno would be wringing her hands and waiting for her daughter to get home. Hinata maybe, because she’s a doormat when it comes to Naruto, but Sakura? No way.

Actually…what is Naruto doing? His son just went missing to run after a serial killer’s clone. The Naruto I remember would be sending a million shadow clones out in a panic to search for his kid. Shikamaru would have to sedate him to keep him from leaving the Hokage tower. 

Seriously, I don’t recognize any of these characters on the screen anymore."

 

Copy Paste from : http://kyriolex.tumb...the-mitsuki-arc

 

BOLD : Naruto send a lot of shadow clone to search for Sasuke and he didn't send any to look for his brat we all know who he love the most!!

 

From what i know (correct me if i'm wrong i didn't watch it) these bunch of brat going to another country unsupervised by any adult ninja. In part one naruto each 3 kids always going on outside with their jounin sensei. Bad story telling or the parent didn't care about their brat.

Facetious: This person seem to forget about the moral of forgiveness that is the core of Naruto besides Hinata is entitled to everything. How dare she bring up Orochimaru horrific crimes as if they were something he should be held accountable to and punished for; does she have no forgiveness for this man who does not regret a single atrocity he has committed? What a horrible person.

 

This is part of the problem with the next generation "how can they fight foes on their level -granted can anyone other then God even harm a hair on bolt- when you have so many super powerful characters that can step in if things get to difficult for the kids, and if they don't step in how do you go about making sure those adults don't come off as incompetent?"

 

In Part One of Naruto how they went about it was: during the wave arc the fights were separated with kakashi fighting someone his level while Naruto and Sasuke fought a difficult opponent on their level, chunin exam it was suppose to be genin against genin so there wasn't suppose to be any threat they they shouldn't be able to handle -then came in Orochimaru a kage level ninja-, and from the rescue Sasuke arc till the end of part one the kids had to go off on their own because Tsunade was constantly sending all the high ranking ninja off on missions to restore the villages prestige after it was attacked so the kids constantly had to go off on their own because they adult were honestly busy with their own missions.

 

By the start of Part Two Naruto and Sakura were close enough to Kakashi's level that they no longer had to separate him for the enemy to be a threat to the cast. Thought, most of the enemies outside filler were Akatsuki members.

 

Here in Boruto. Konohamaru is in-theory their teacher but from what I seen and read is completely ineffectual, and generally comes off as a joke. Hell, he was forbidden from going after his students. Hell again from what I recall Naruto didn't even send any high ranking ninja after his kid, he sent his friends who could be convinced to go along with Bolt instead.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 05 December 2018 - 04:06 PM.

[James S Cassidy]

I know the Mitsuki arc has a lot of problems: it’s too long, spends too little time with Mitsuki, and so on.

But for me, the biggest issue is the parents. I know the writers can’t have the adults involved because then the plot would be over. But I can’t believe that NONE of the parents go after their kids. Every one of these kids is the heir apparent to a major clan. Sarada is the only possible heir to the Uchiha clan, period. Hokage’s orders or no, there’s no way these clans would leave their kids’ safety to a few tracker jonin. Most of these clans would be sending out small militias to recover their progeny. 

You can’t tell me that Sakura “I will brute-force my way through multiple dimensions to get Sasuke back” Haruno would be wringing her hands and waiting for her daughter to get home. Hinata maybe, because she’s a doormat when it comes to Naruto, but Sakura? No way.

Actually…what is Naruto doing? His son just went missing to run after a serial killer’s clone. The Naruto I remember would be sending a million shadow clones out in a panic to search for his kid. Shikamaru would have to sedate him to keep him from leaving the Hokage tower. 

Seriously, I don’t recognize any of these characters on the screen anymore.

 

Copy Paste from : http://kyriolex.tumb...the-mitsuki-arc

 

BOLD : Naruto send a lot of shadow clone to search for Sasuke and he didn't send any to look for his brat we all know who he love the most!!

 

From what i know (correct me if i'm wrong i didn't watch it) these bunch of brat going to another country unsupervised by any adult ninja. In part one naruto each 3 kids always going on outside with their jounin sensei. Bad story telling or the parent didn't care about their brat.

This is just one of millions of reasons why the series "Boruto" is a bad idea.

How do you explain Boruto doing so much and "saving the day" meanwhile his parents, one of which is one of the STRONGEST shinobi of all time, just sits around and doing nothing, but wait? This is why Naruto has some excuse with his parents being dead, but Boruto? No. There is no excuse why Naruto doesn't just get up and do things himself.

Like seriously, this is worse than Dragonball Z. At least Goku TRIES to save his son from time to time or tries not to let his son get into fights, but here Naruto gives no fudges. I expected this from Sasuke, but never from Naruto.

[BlueStarSaber]

This is just one of millions of reasons why the series "Boruto" is a bad idea.
How do you explain Boruto doing so much and "saving the day" meanwhile his parents, one of which is one of the STRONGEST shinobi of all time, just sits around and doing nothing, but wait? This is why Naruto has some excuse with his parents being dead, but Boruto? No. There is no excuse why Naruto doesn't just get up and do things himself.
Like seriously, this is worse than Dragonball Z. At least Goku TRIES to save his son from time to time or tries not to let his son get into fights, but here Naruto gives no fudges. I expected this from Sasuke, but never from Naruto.

You know one thing I hear repeatedly from those who hate Naruto's ending, is how nothing is done by naruto as hokage to change the age of how the ninja academy teaches or graduates it's student. It just remains the same, you'd think naruto and his generation after learning all the messed up things that happen in the shinobi world would change the academy structure so that if their children become ninja they wouldn't become child soidlers and they would least be young adults before they officially go out on dangerous missions. But I guess they wanted to use part 1 nostalgia to keep the series going.

[James S Cassidy]

You know one thing I hear repeatedly from those who hate Naruto's ending, is how nothing is done by naruto as hokage to change the age of how the ninja academy teaches or graduates it's student. It just remains the same, you'd think naruto and his generation after learning all the messed up things that happen in the shinobi world would change the academy structure so that if their children become ninja they wouldn't become child soidlers and they would least be young adults before they officially go out on dangerous missions. But I guess they wanted to use part 1 nostalgia to keep the series going.

Which underminds the entire concept of Naruto to begin with. The Naruto should have been finished with him being Hokage, but no it is still going. How do you make the series more compelling after you basically have god, Kaguya, come down and be beaten? Yeah, she was not much of a fight, but still how does one continue to make compelling stories when the biggest of the baddie laddies is dealt with? This is why they keep using the Ootsusuki clan time and time again. The "children of god" are the only things worth fighting. Like fighting Archangels in our culture.

It's like One Piece after the one piece has been found. What else is there to do? What other legendary treasure is out there and why has noone heard of it until now?

The problem with series keep going is after a while it is all trivial. Dragonball has this problem in you realize that Goku will never be the strongest in even his own universe because then what is the point? This is why One Punch Man makes fun of this. After you become the strongest, what else is there? Luckily, there are other means to achieving goals which again One Punch man highlights like becoming a better overall hero or becoming the most well-known or anything else along the lines.

Boruto....you have to make everything Naruto did pointless and make him as a character weak in order for stuff to be compelling which is a horrible way to artificially lengthen the story. The more this series goes the more people see how stupid it is getting.

That was my problem with Goku right now. Yeah, sure, he gets more cool power-ups that look flashy, but then he keeps getting his butt kicked. So how powerful is he really? You start to lose perspective. Superman tackles this differently in that he is already the strongest while his struggles are not strength, but morals. Theoretically you can keep that one going for a while with different characters facing different types of choices. What happens when strength does nothing against say a suicide jumper? Goku has this problem in that he only really cares if he gets a good fight out of it or the Earth is in danger of being leveled.

My point is the more Boruto keeps going, the worse Naruto looks as a character. His "world peace" was merely a band-aid because eventually someone will come along who either just want to watch the world burn or has some motive to gain power or even revenge and not every one is just going to be swayed by mere world play and if there are problems that Naruto should be able to just basically snap his fingers and everything is fine....when he doesn't do that you have to wonder why not? At least have Naruto have some kind of thought process of "I knew Boruto could handle it, but he needed to be pushed. He has to learn to stand on his own feet," but no, Naruto is not philosophical.

Seriously, how far does this "Naruto is too busy with Hokage stuff" excuse go? When does it become to the point where you have to say that that is not a good enough excuse?" You can't be a Hokage of a leveled city so eventually you have to put stuff on hold to stop threats that are big enough.

One thing I am tired of is the proenders making excuses for why Naruto is a bad person, a bad father, or even just a lazy out of shape bum. The dude took on Obito, Madara, and Kaguya, but gets be impaled by a sword. Death Battle point out him moving like the speed of light or what not, but he can't see like half the stuff that is being thrown at him SLOWER? And I used to get mad when it happens to the Flash.  "I can react to things happening in less than an attosecond, but can get punched by Batman....somehow." And people accept this....Again, at least Superman has some reason behind it like "I am afraid of letting go in fear of people be hurt or killed around me so I rather take the punch than risk killing people with shockwaves." Flash doesn't have this excuse.

I hope you see where I am getting at.

[Bail o' Lies]

As an aside the Flash does have an excuse; the speed force. His speed comes from tapping into this speed force which depend how much he taps into it can go from running faster than the human eye can perceive to faster then time in an instant. However he still need to tap into it to go that speed, and it clear he taps into it to certain extents to run certain speed. This should be obvious because he not always running faster then time itself.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 06 December 2018 - 11:09 PM.

[James S Cassidy]

As an aside the Flash does have an excuse; the speed force. His speed comes from tapping into this speed force which depend how much he taps into it can go from running faster than the human eye can perceive to faster then time in an instant. However he still need to tap into it to go that speed, and it clear he taps into it to certain extents to run certain speed. This should be obvious because he not always running faster then time itself.

You have to ask...which Flash are we talking about? Barry Allen generates the speed force itself. He IS the speed force. How can Barry Allen "tap" into it when he is it? In fact, he himself, through a time paradox, became the speed force that purposely affect himself thus creating himself as the Flash.

This excuse may work for say Wally West or other speedsters, but for Barry Allen it is not much of an excuse...especially when he becomes a veteran hero who has been doing it for some time. One minute he can outrun a nuclear explosion saving 500,000 people from the groundzero and the next he gets tagged by someone much slower.

Maybe I am nitpicking, but it is always funny how people will make excuses for some characters, but not apply to others. "Goku got blasted through the chest because he was not paying attention, but Superman being tagged cause he was not paying attention is no excuse since he can sense everything." Stuff like that.

However, my point was that for Naruto he doesn't really have an excuse to be as bad as he is. See, most people learn from their mistakes. Naruto seems to just repeat them even when he SHOULD know better and I think this is one major aspect that makes Naruto a HORRIBLE character. He doesn't learn anything. He doesn't want to learn anything. He is lazy and wants to do things the cheap way and the worse part about it....this is the same dude who says "I don't want to cheat." He doesn't want to cheat, but doesn't want to put in effort to do anything. He never wants to learn things that are too complicated.

People point this out when two 12-13 year olds kids can hide from like 3 sensor type ninja. How? They are sensor type ninja. They can detect people's chakra and are made to sense the hidden or people trying to hide because no one can completely disappear, but they can't detect two 12 year olds in a air duct? There is human error and then there is stupidity.

The excuses are just bad for this series. It's just funny how some can make every excuse under the book for once character, but then have no excuse or hold another character, whether from the same series or from another, to the highest degree. Same thing with the Sakura and Hinata argument I said earlier as well. If Sakura tries and fails...she is useless. If Hinata tries and fails...she is deemed amazing and strong for just trying to overcome. If Sakura does succeed in some way "Well, it is expected of her." If Hinata succeeds on the very rare chance she does..."OMG, she overcame so much." Tidal waves of damage control.

When do the excuses start being ridiculous? Sometimes you have to say that there is no excuse for some of this behavior. You can't keep saying that Naruto's a bad father cause he has no experience, but then he never tries to be a better father; making no effort to change his bad behaviors.

[Bail o' Lies]

When do the excuses start being ridiculous? When even the people saying them no longer believe their own bs.

 

As for the pro-enders, they slowly been losing people for years. Remember, they believe kishimoto was trolling everyone. That Hinata was always the most important part of the story, and everything else was him just fooling everyone for a laugh. The thing is that eventually the trolling needed to stop, the joke needed to end, and kishimoto eventually needed to tell the true story they believe he always had. Instead they got Boruto, and they'd been trying to find excuses for 4 years now.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 09 December 2018 - 01:32 AM.

[RulesofNature]

When do the excuses start being ridiculous? When even the people saying them no longer believe their own bs.

 

As for the pro-enders, they slowly been losing people for years. Remember, they believe kishimoto was trolling everyone. That Hinata was always the most important part of the story, and everything else was him just fooling everyone for a laugh. The thing is that eventually the trolling needed to stop, the joke needed to end, and kishimoto eventually needed to tell the true story they believe he always had. Instead they got Boruto, and they'd been trying to find excuses for 4 years now.

 

Ahem. No matter how the show tries to swing it, they've turned Naruto into someone his younger self would absolutely hate. He has become something of his own antithesis. No, he definitely is his own antitheis and it's growing harder and harder to deny. They can try saying it's all Kishi trolling all they want, but it's not Boruto's Dad people watched all those years ago.