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Posted 04 September 2021 - 02:47 PM

The sh#* I've seen on Twitter over the past 2 years is quite honestly astonishing. SasuSaku fans have the highest of reaches over the littlest of interactions... 


It's baffling how excited they get and how triggered they get when you tell them otherwise

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Posted 04 September 2021 - 03:02 PM

It's baffling how excited they get and how triggered they get when you tell them otherwise

 

Heh, a simple sorry these days...


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Posted 04 September 2021 - 04:13 PM

The sh#* I've seen on Twitter over the past 2 years is quite honestly astonishing. SasuSaku fans have the highest of reaches over the littlest of interactions... 


*Sasuke just happens to look in the same direction Sakura is in, not even looking at her, but at something else*


*SS* OMG, IT'S FATED LOVE!!!


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Posted 04 September 2021 - 04:41 PM

*Sasuke just happens to look in the same direction Sakura is in, not even looking at her, but at something else*


*SS* OMG, IT'S FATED LOVE!!!

Naruto treats her right, gives her gifts, and so much more

"Aww, he is such a good friend"


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Posted 04 September 2021 - 04:55 PM

SasuSaku at least can claim interactions, ever so brief... and terrible

 

NaruHina has nothing and rightfully gets dumped on


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Posted 04 September 2021 - 08:58 PM

 

Yeah, it is the most hypocritical thing. Every other female character is bashed.
"Ino dresses like a wh*re"
But it is okay if Hinata wanted to...especially RtN

"Sakura is abusive and a kitten"
But Hinata is worse "she is strong and independent." 

The excuses for Hinata are almost as bad as Sasuke's

 

Yeah, it sure is real hypocritical, James. And it's something I've seen done and said for YEARS, even though NH "won". Shows how much of whiny babies they are when they "won" and still need to make us feel like we're the dumbasses and salty ones.



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Posted 04 September 2021 - 10:11 PM

 

Yeah, it is the most hypocritical thing. Every other female character is bashed.
"Ino dresses like a wh*re"
But it is okay if Hinata wanted to...especially RtN

"Sakura is abusive and a kitten"
But Hinata is worse "she is strong and independent." 

The excuses for Hinata are almost as bad as Sasuke's

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and i agree with you they always let hinata get away with things



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Posted 04 September 2021 - 10:45 PM

 
Yeah, it sure is real hypocritical, James. And it's something I've seen done and said for YEARS, even though NH "won". Shows how much of whiny babies they are when they "won" and still need to make us feel like we're the dumbasses and salty ones.


And look at what they do when someone makes a video on how bad Naruto has become or that NH has no development, they go crazy.

It also shows how crazy they are and they cant admit the truth that this was never planned.

At least the very few NH fans have see how kitten the ending was and admitted that NaruSaku should have happened

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Posted 05 September 2021 - 12:20 AM

 

EhhHHH, kind of? Hinata got a lot of "oh she's cute" "AWWW she has a crush!!" focus. People loved her because they could relate to her in a way.
The ~hot bod~ hit her 12 year old self too. But not in the manga. Any of you remember the infamous waterfall filler episode? Where, for no reason, she was dancing naked in front of the waterfall and Naruto was just ~oh so enchanted by her~. SP had the hots for her even when she was 12.

 

 
Here...and the Narutofan forums. 

 

I remember, I just don't think that that was a factor to the arguments that it was pure physical attraction to Hinata back then. At least I hope it's not :ermm:  But anyway, are they attracted to Hinata? Sure. But that doesn't explain their fanatical behaviour towards her when there were plenty of attractive females in the cast. Just saying :shrug:

 

Question... where were you when you first saw the ending?

 

Home. As stated before, I felt hollow inside then just purely angry. Funnily enough I had a Psychology course exam in college that afternoon (it was my last credential needed to graduate) and I scored a 90+ lol but anyway I was contemplating how to get rid of everything that I owned with Naruto on it. It all eventually went to the trash bin or recycling


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Posted 05 September 2021 - 02:46 AM

 

I remember, I just don't think that that was a factor to the arguments that it was pure physical attraction to Hinata back then. At least I hope it's not :ermm:  But anyway, are they attracted to Hinata? Sure. But that doesn't explain their fanatical behaviour towards her when there were plenty of attractive females in the cast. Just saying :shrug:

 

Because they empathize with the sympathetic aspects of her character such as her shy nature, low self-esteem, and her issues with her father and conflate them to ridiculous proportions.  


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Posted 05 September 2021 - 04:19 AM

Because they empathize with the sympathetic aspects of her character such as her shy nature, low self-esteem, and her issues with her father and conflate them to ridiculous proportions.  

Not to mention, people identified with Naruto and projected onto him. Sasuke and Sakura became irredemable jerks in their eyes, sometimes Kakashi as well, the villagers would beat and abuse him, he was really a genius who had to hide his skill, etc. All common in early fanfic. You take that, then add one person who is "in love" with him and watch her skyrocket towards goddesshood in their eyes.

 

Kinda says a lot about how immature the early Naruto fanbase was.


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Posted 05 September 2021 - 07:11 AM

Was? It still is, if you ask me. From what’s left of it anyway.


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Posted 06 September 2021 - 12:24 AM

I barely stomach the fact NaruHina is official, the fanfiction about it beforehand is still 1000x worst. That's actually saying something considering Kishimoto personally went out of his way to have Naruto and Hinata interact as little as possible. 


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Posted 06 September 2021 - 04:46 AM

I barely stomach the fact NaruHina is official, the fanfiction about it beforehand is still 1000x worst. That's actually saying something considering Kishimoto personally went out of his way to have Naruto and Hinata interact as little as possible. 

That's probably why they were, "1000x worst," they had a few scene to base the romance off of then the rest is from their own minds. Which often why the stories had Naruto and Hinata be petty, viscous,  sanctimonious, entitled,  and spiteful brats among other things.



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Posted 06 September 2021 - 04:58 AM

hey james good to see you back here it's been awhile

and i agree with you they always let hinata get away with things

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Posted 06 September 2021 - 05:28 AM

That's probably why they were, "1000x worst," they had a few scene to base the romance off of then the rest is from their own minds. Which often why the stories had Naruto and Hinata be petty, viscous,  sanctimonious, entitled,  and spiteful brats among other things.


They are whiny self-entitled brats in the fan fictions because their supporters are whiny self-entitled brats etc. etc. Like character like creator :yes:

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Posted 06 September 2021 - 09:45 PM

i feel naruto lacks villains that just want to be evil. I mean image tenpenny from gta in naruto dude's so evil naruto wouldn't be able to use talk no jutsu on him. i miss those villains



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Posted 06 September 2021 - 10:30 PM

 

Yeah, it is the most hypocritical thing. Every other female character is bashed.
"Ino dresses like a wh*re"
But it is okay if Hinata wanted to...especially RtN

"Sakura is abusive and a kitten"
But Hinata is worse "she is strong and independent." 

The excuses for Hinata are almost as bad as Sasuke's

I think many NH fans are just incel Naruto fans. They're not Hinata fans. They bashed Sakura for not loving Naruto, for being a jerk to him. OK, same logic: They didn't care about Naruto ignoring Hinata for the whole manga, or for forgetting her confession and the apparently wonderful childhood time they spent together. They just really liked Hinata's feelings for him. 

 

Vanitas: The real villain was the shinobi system. That was how it was written. And T7 realized that early on, they even talked about how wrong it was. Because of Zabuza and Haku. They were onto something ya know. Then Nagato, Obito, Sasuke, even Madara - is written as a victim of the same villain. Kishi really loves repeating things to shoehorn his message. His original themes were surpassing the previous generations, their mistakes and so on. Do what they couldn't. He does this with parallels as well. Naruto and Sasuke would see eye to eye, the way Madara and Hashirama couldn't, and Naruto and Sakura would start a family in the newfound peace, the way the previous couples were killed by war. I really like Sasuke the revolutionary and Naruto the reformist - it'd be interesting to see how they meet halfway. But the shinobi system still exists in burrito. Naruto's conclusion was to endure it. Because the words shinobi and endure have the same kanji or something.

 

The ending to me, is somewhat realistic - because justice doesn't always win, and love doesn't either. But it's not a shonen ending at all. 


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Posted 06 September 2021 - 11:29 PM

i feel naruto lacks villains that just want to be evil. I mean image tenpenny from gta in naruto dude's so evil naruto wouldn't be able to use talk no jutsu on him. i miss those villains


Hiding and kakazu I'd say where the last ones to be considered this not counting thw villains in boruto

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Posted 07 September 2021 - 01:46 AM

I think many NH fans are just incel Naruto fans. They're not Hinata fans. They bashed Sakura for not loving Naruto, for being a jerk to him. OK, same logic: They didn't care about Naruto ignoring Hinata for the whole manga, or for forgetting her confession and the apparently wonderful childhood time they spent together. They just really liked Hinata's feelings for him. 

 

Vanitas: The real villain was the shinobi system. That was how it was written. And T7 realized that early on, they even talked about how wrong it was. Because of Zabuza and Haku. They were onto something ya know. Then Nagato, Obito, Sasuke, even Madara - is written as a victim of the same villain. Kishi really loves repeating things to shoehorn his message. His original themes were surpassing the previous generations, their mistakes and so on. Do what they couldn't. He does this with parallels as well. Naruto and Sasuke would see eye to eye, the way Madara and Hashirama couldn't, and Naruto and Sakura would start a family in the newfound peace, the way the previous couples were killed by war. I really like Sasuke the revolutionary and Naruto the reformist - it'd be interesting to see how they meet halfway. But the shinobi system still exists in burrito. Naruto's conclusion was to endure it. Because the words shinobi and endure have the same kanji or something.

 

The ending to me, is somewhat realistic - because justice doesn't always win, and love doesn't either. But it's not a shonen ending at all. 

i see but that can't be the only one like that it got boring that every villain was the same that got reformed sorry but not every villain is like that it's why i said tenpenny cause he's a real villain.

 

Hiding and kakazu I'd say where the last ones to be considered this not counting thw villains in boruto

we need more that are evil just cause they want to be and don't care who they hurt






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