719 replies to this topic

[rocci]

7 tail nature attack is wind.
8 tail nature attack is (thunder?) ink.
9 tail doesn't has nature attack, perhaps yin yang aka bijuu dama.

[Otaru]

@otaru
I think people piss on this chapter because of how easy kakashi gain PERFECT susanoo from dead obito.
I always predict sakura will get a stab, because It's actually a chain of event with obito activate susanoo with kakashi assist and naruto reclaiming his other Kyubi.
Thus allow him to beat madara/kaguya.

 

Kakashi always has been able to get perfect techniques in an instant because he can copy it. That doesn't surprise me and I don't feel like it's asspulled. In the very first beginning of the manga, Kakashi was able to copy every techniques and use it in an instant. Why would it be asspulled now ? Maybe the fact that Kakashi didn't use it since a long time made some of you FORGET that Kakashi can copy.

What I think is a little inconsistent in this manga, is the fact that Kakashi only seems to be able to copy techniques and the other sharingan possessing ninjas never copied anything. I have always thought it was because they didn't need to copy techniques because they can CREATE it, so it never bothered me that much.

 

 

I'm still pissed at Kakashi being hinted as the 6-th Hokage dafuq its not like he was the star of this war or did anything significant and he didn't even wanted that position in the first place . I'm officially at lost with Kishimoto and his awful storytelling he just kittens on everything and I had so much respect for this man I don't even want to think about this P3 coming now *sign* .

 

He just wants to surprise us. That's all. People get disappointed because of their expectations that's getting more and more precise as the time is passing.

 

 

Wow, this is just the worst Chapter I've ever read in my life. Is that real? HOLY kitten, Kishimoto is retarded. He just ruined Obito's death climax with a fanservice powerup, that isn't even permanent, he just wanted to show how useless Kakashi is without those eyes. And again, Sakura is the princess to be rescued. ¬_¬

I'm starting to fear about NS guys... This manga is just crap.

 

Well, with all my respect to you, if you feel it's crap, just read something else. That would be a good advice to take because seriously, you're gonna be disappointed more if you see things like that.

Edited by Otaru, 06 August 2014 - 11:28 AM.

[rocci]

@otaru
Sharingan is kekkei genkai.
Kakashi himselft said that he can't copy it.
Kakashi could gain and perform ms because of obito tragedy.
Kakashi could gain sharingan and perform ps in this chapter because of obito soul merge with him.
It's up to kishi to make it permanent or only temporary power.

Edited by rocci, 06 August 2014 - 11:31 AM.

[Otaru]

agree about sakura   . but about kakashi eyes . am ok with it but it could have been done better. and if its obito chakra /soul that helps him then he wont keep them specially that he said it will expire. and if obito meant something else then yeah. kishi will make him keep them somehow. . its good to have kakashi in  the action again even if its rushed in some way .   

 

Well I think the eyes could have been given to Kakashi before Obito's death, but I guess Kishimoto didn't want to ruin Obito's departure and his last glare at Naruto, when he said to him to become Hokage at all cost.
It could have be done differently, it's true, it could have be done in many ways. But I undertand why Kishi did it like that, and I'm ok with it. To me, it makes sense that Obito have been able to travel through because that's his ability, and if you admit that the "world of the dead" is just another dimension, you're not chocked with the idea of Obito travelling through. It's my case tho'.

It's happening quick it's true, I guess it's because Kishi didn't want to waste time on some surgery performed on the battlefield. It's better like that, it's more surprising. IMO it was too much obvious that Kakashi was going to have Obito's sharingan, and maybe Kishi wanted us to fear Kakashi would not have it when Obito died and his body was destroyed. I think he wanted us to fear a little for Kakashi.

Edited by Otaru, 06 August 2014 - 11:34 AM.

[FireFox]

 

Kakashi always has been able to get perfect techniques in an instant because he can copy it. That doesn't surprise me and I don't feel like it's asspulled. In the very first beginning of the manga, Kakashi was able to copy every techniques and use it in an instant. Why would it be asspulled now ? Maybe the fact that Kakashi didn't use it since a long time made some of you FORGET that Kakashi can copy.

What I think is a little inconsistent in this manga, is the fact that Kakashi only seems to be able to copy techniques and the other sharingan possessing ninjas never copied anything. I have always thought it was because they didn't need to copy techniques because they can CREATE it, so it never bothered me that much.

 

 

 

He just wants to surprise us. That's all. People get disappointed because of their expectations that's getting more and more precise as the time is passing.

 

 

 

Well, with all my respect to you, if you feel it's crap, just read something else. That would be a good advice to take because seriously, you're gonna be disappointed more if you see things like that.

What Surprise Us ? Surprise is another thing pulling stuff out of your ass and inconsistent writing  is another I'm sick of defending his writing . Surprising is not the issue in here its the way he does that  and how much inconsistent is he in his writing this why people are mad bc he writes things that sometimes have no sense whatsoever  that's not surprising us . And really since when it was able to copy Susanoo care to point that out to me or pull it without eyes see the inconsistency in here .  

[lupina]

Uhm ... ok ... I kind of ... don't know what to say ... äh ...

 

- A dead Obito can come to the living world again with his sharingan and give them somehow to a young Kakashi ... 

- Kakashi will become the next Hokakge (implying that Tsunade rather DIES or stepping back)

- Sakura needs to be saved again ...

 

Honestly, I don't know what to say. Something really needs to happen .... 

[Otaru]

@otaru
Sharingan is kekkei genkai.
Kakashi himselft said that he can't copy it.
Kakashi could gain and perform ms because of obito tragedy.
Kakashi could gain sharingan and perform ps in this chapter because of obito soul merge with him.
It's up to kishi to make it permanent or only temporary power.

 

I don't get what you want to say exactly.

Could you develop a little more ?

 

I know Sharingan is kekkei genkai.

 

'Kakashi could gain and perform ms because of obito tragedy.' --> yes and it's the same with Susanoo. he could gain it because of Obito.

 

Obito's soul will obviously leave after the fight. Obito just wants to help Kakashi and then he will go back to Rin, as it's been clearly stated in this chapter.

It's true it's up to Kishi to make it permanent or temporary, well maybe Susanoo will be temporary, but I'm sure as hell that Kakashi will keep those eyes.

 

It's also obvious Kakashi will not be retrograded in power because he will be the Rokudaime.

Edited by Otaru, 06 August 2014 - 11:40 AM.

[shadow_Uzumaki]

HOLY FUUUUU, Kakashi with 2 Sharingans?  Freaking awesome!  Now, he really IS the Copy Ninja Kakashi..... And that Nine Beast Rasengan attack.... A far cry from the Naruto that can barely cut a leaf in half with his wind chakra, now he's throwing around elements like it was nothing.

[Otaru]

What Surprise Us ? Surprise is another thing pulling stuff out of your ass and inconsistent writing  is another I'm sick of defending his writing . Surprising is not the issue in here its the way he does that  and how much inconsistent is he in his writing this why people are mad bc he writes things that sometimes have no sense whatsoever  that's not surprising us . And really since when it was able to copy Susanoo care to point that out to me or pull it without eyes see the inconsistency in here .  

 

Well you're free to be pissed heh...

I'm just trying to understand Kishi that's all.

I'm not forcing you to accept my point of view.

 

IMO, he can has copied Susanoo when Sasuke showed it to him back then. That's not dumb to believe this.

You know I'm not trying to look at every detail with a 'logic compass' to measure everything. I just enjoy the ride for what it is. It's a manga for young ones, Kishi is working on it since a very long time, and I understand it's not impossible for some mistakes to happen, or inconsistencies.

 

Sometime I don't really like some things, like for example the Kin/Gin brothers, but I don't want to get REALLY PISSED about it, because it's just a manga and I just want to enjoy the ride of this story because I love it. See ?

[六道仙人]

 

NarSak be mad with this chapter

Cause Sakura was cheering on Naruto because he caught Sasuke. Also Kishi didn’t made Naruto just go and save Sakura personally, he made Naruto ask Sasuke to do it and he obviously was going to do it. Bonus when Naruto thought that Sasuke was the one who really saved Sakura he looked the happiest person ever. 

 

LMAO

[FireFox]

 

Well you're free to be pissed heh...

I'm just trying to understand Kishi that's all.

I'm not forcing you to accept my point of view.

 

IMO, he can has copied Susanoo when Sasuke showed it to him back then. That's not dumb to believe this.

You know I'm not trying to look at every detail with a 'logic compass' to measure everything. I just enjoy the ride for what it is. It's a manga for young ones, Kishi is working on it since a very long time, and I understand it's not impossible for some mistakes to happen, or inconsistencies.

 

Sometime I don't really like some things, like for example the Kin/Gin brothers, but I don't want to get REALLY PISSED about it, because it's just a manga and I just want to enjoy the ride of this story because I love it. See ?

Its just that it has happened so much to many times that I have lost track and its impossible for me enjoy what was once was a beautiful written story now its all about asspulls . I mean come on Kakashi being Hokage bc of Obito and before Naruto when Naruto worked so hard in this war that's not right .  But to each his own  

 

And you can't copy Susanoo its genetic that was established long ago , You can't copy Kekegenkai  this is the inconsistency that's happening for quite some time  .

[Gravenimage]

WTF a SS moment in this chapter where???

[Arachnia]

I think that's why kishi doesn't make obito perform susanoo. Because kishi give it to kakashi.

I predict orochimaru can fly.

its kinda ez wye kishi dident give obito perfect susanoo, obito never had both eyes long enough

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

I think the hole is more deeper.
How the hell Kishimoto can explain now, how Madara used Susano'o without his eyes?
Kakashi needed both eyes to use Susano'o(in form of chakra okay), Madara didnt had it and used it anyway, there were a lot of theories saying it was on the brain but i think this chapter proved it's not related to it.

 

Maybe because he has hashirama's powers or DNA.

[ns.Believe.It]

 

Well you're free to be pissed heh...

I'm just trying to understand Kishi that's all.

I'm not forcing you to accept my point of view.

 

IMO, he can has copied Susanoo when Sasuke showed it to him back then. That's not dumb to believe this.

You know I'm not trying to look at every detail with a 'logic compass' to measure everything. I just enjoy the ride for what it is. It's a manga for young ones, Kishi is working on it since a very long time, and I understand it's not impossible for some mistakes to happen, or inconsistencies.

 

Sometime I don't really like some things, like for example the Kin/Gin brothers, but I don't want to get REALLY PISSED about it, because it's just a manga and I just want to enjoy the ride of this story because I love it. See ?

I agree. People have their own set of expectations before every chapter and later get disappointed and annoyed when it doesn't happen that way.There would be a million opinions from fans. But the only opinion that matters is the mangaka's. Why have high expectations and set yourself for disappointment later is something I don't get. Its better to just go with the flow of the story. 

 

I saw a post claiming disappointment that Kakashi wasn't made a 2nd White fang like ninja. Its weird to expect something like that. Kakashi of the Sharingan was how he was introduced and written for 650+ chapters. Why do people expect him to become a completely different type of ninja all of a sudden now? How could the mangaka even make something like that work? That would be a bigger asspull than giving back Kakashi his Sharingan! 

Edited by ns.Believe.It, 06 August 2014 - 12:09 PM.

[Nate River]

What do you people want..... Jeez

For starters, coherence would be nice.

[Sakura~]

Kakashi of the sharingans!!! *.* ... So this makes Sakura look useless compare to all of them since she has nothing to support her fight. I hope Kishi is preparing something for Sakura like SSM. I mean he gave Kakashi the sharingan, so I can't see why he can't give Sakura some love too. Anyway, short chapter.

[rocci]

@otaru
You can't copy kekkei genkai, but you can claim it.
Like kakashi with obito sharingan, the mist dude with hyuga byakugan, Yamato with hashi mokuton, and kabuto with his sound four & team taka ability.

What happen in this chapter is, obito soul go back to the worl and merge with kakashi performing ps.
If it permanent, that because obito residue soul/chakra still left or something like garra sand control.
If temporary, well that's it.

Edited by rocci, 06 August 2014 - 12:24 PM.

[Swagkura]

So, is Sakura gonna get a giant inner Sakura since it seems like everybody on team 7 are getting these extremely powered up forms?

[rocci]

So, is Sakura gonna get a giant inner Sakura since it seems like everybody on team 7 are getting these extremely powered up forms?

Sakura will get ssm and summon 100% katsuyu in the next arc or part 3.
At least it's not a "given" power.