Overpowered Naruto
#1
Posted 04 November 2007 - 07:15 PM
See, in many fanfics, people tend to either keep Naruto like in Canon, or make him stronger. I personally prefer him to be overpowered sometimes, even if only a little bit more. Makes it more interesting.
Wonder what your thoughts are. XD
Oh and yeah, I'm not saying anyone is right, but really, what are your opinions?!
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#2
Posted 04 November 2007 - 10:05 PM
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Posted 04 November 2007 - 10:24 PM
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Posted 04 November 2007 - 11:53 PM
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#7
Posted 05 November 2007 - 12:22 AM
Thank you. Personally I think people who make Naruto this overpowered genius have completely missed the point of his character. And everyone else in Naruto.
I mean, go ahead and power up Naruto...but don't be ridiculous over the top with it and make it plausible. Also try to at least keep his teammates relevant...especially if he is still working with them regularly. Nothing annoys me more than Naruto's teammates relegated to being Cheerleaders.
#8
Posted 05 November 2007 - 12:29 AM
Can't agree more, Twinie! Naruto's the type to always struggle and work hard... seeing him just automatically beating an opponent or not even having to make an effort to do such isn't like him in my opinion. I'd rather see him actually have to try to win. >.>;
#9
Posted 05 November 2007 - 01:22 AM
But then there's the ones who claim to have an "original" bloodline for Naruto... and it's a doujutsu with all the powers of the Sharingan, but without the copying ability and added something else instead for good measures so he can say "My bloodline is much better than yours Uchiha-teme" or something.
What I do like however, is when people have him grow at a more steady pace. Instead of keeping him at a point where he's growing a little bit faster than in canon. It's fanfiction after all, so you should be allowed to take some liberties. Just try to keep it at a point where it doesn't piss off the real readers (that's the ones who will reply to your stories with something other than "interesting" or "I like it, please update"). I have seen a story where an eight year old Naruto could beat Jiraiya in an all out fight with ninjutsu and taijutsu. That is totally unrealistic, and way out of bounds... not even Dragonball kids grew that quick...
But I have yet to see anyone keep him at the same level as the manga, without even a tiny boost in power, and I'm sure I never will. That would be reading the manga, only in another person's words.
Power-upped > Overpowered
I don't deny enjoying Naruto with a bloodline though... like in Hive or Brown Eyes meets Blue for instance where they don't use that god damned sharingan-clone everyone seems so fond of. GOD I'm so tired right now, I can't think straight. *sleep ON*
#10
Posted 05 November 2007 - 02:32 AM
hell with Naruto's work ethic, if he was help in just taijutsu a little when younger, like most of the academy students, he would be better than he is in cannon.
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#11
Posted 05 November 2007 - 04:09 AM
Naruto's my fav char in the series, so yes, I do like certain ones when he is overpowered. But the ones written well are few and far between.
Most of the ones around have him heading to a proverbial dead-end, simply because the author never thought that far ahead or even made plans to how he should progress.
#12
Posted 05 November 2007 - 04:21 AM
#13
Posted 05 November 2007 - 10:11 AM
In Naruto genius means more than IQ, but bloodlines and other abilities from birth are also considered genius. The idea that Naruto, the title character, is able to do something just because he was born with it annoys the heck out of me. There's no work involved really. Sure maybe one has to train a little, but already without trying...you're already placed higher than most.
It's like writing a Lee who can use ninjutsu and genjutsu. (And really, Lee's work ethic is crazier than Naruto's. If he was able to use chakra...damn he'd be crazy powerful)
There are a few exceptions to this rule, but very few.
Oh and another page closer...abuse of the Kage Bunshin no Jutsu. Gah, I hated when Kishimoto did that, and I hate when people decide to let Naruto learn its secrets when he's 12 years old so he can be stronger overnight. It's like...gah! *stab stab* If you're already going to make him powerful, then like...pretend the Kage Bunshin doesn't exist or something...
#14
Posted 05 November 2007 - 10:17 AM
That's rather harsh. Naruto with a bloodline is not necessarily overpowered, it's how he's actually written that matters. If Naruto has a bloodline that is somehow a mix of the Byakugan and Sharingan or allows him to kill someone by looking at them, then yeah instant page closer. But if it's a bloodline that someone obviously put thought into incorporating into the story, I do give it a chance. This doesn't make or break a story, but I do agree that a bloodline takes away some of Naruto's appeal as a character who relies on hard work to become strong.
#15
Posted 05 November 2007 - 10:23 AM
First of all it wasn't your average...Naruto gets beaten up by the villagers one day. Kyuubi, who is randomly good for some reason, decides to power him up (and give him a make over) and tell him about his kickass bloodline limit. Second, it was well written and third, he really couldn't use his bloodline much, because there were a lot of rules involved (as there should be since time can kitten things up pretty quickly).
Then there was that Foxhound fic...where Naruto had the Unlimiter, which basically just makes it so he can learn anything he puts his mind to. He still has to work hard at things...but he'll never reach a plateau where he's like "Well...I guess that's it for me."
It may be harsh, but really I hate Naruto having power just handed to him. Unless it's Kyuubi chakra and honestly that's not really a benefit considering that too much of it will result in Naruto going batsh*t insane and aging prematurely?
Also if you're going to do a super!Naruto, CHANGE THE FRIGGIN' PLOT!
#16
Posted 05 November 2007 - 02:57 PM
Then from there, seeing such a drastic change the 3rd Hokage decided to take Naruto under his wing, so for the next six years Naruto go one on one training with the 3rd basically making him near Jounin level by the time he was 13. But since the only person Naruto interacted with was the 3rd and the father and daughter at the Ramen stand, the 3rd said Naruto should choose a partner/Student from the Rookie nine, and low and behold it was Ino. And even there I continued reading because I wanted to give the fic the benefit of the doubt.
What got me to completely stop reading and delete the further chapters from my flashdrive was the fact, Ino character was so poorly written, not to mention you could have supplied any female character into Ino's spot because she had no personality. Her only difference was everytime Naruto taught her something she would be like "Take that forhead-girl!" She says that line like 3 times in the story. Not mention Naruto acts perfect. He's not immature. He's not impatient. His techniques were without flaw. So basically it wasn't Naruto just some robot in disguise.
#17
Posted 05 November 2007 - 03:28 PM
It's not that I'm not enjoying a strong Naruto, but rather that many important traits of his character get lost along the way.
What's with his compassion? The emotional outbursts àla Zabuza & Haku, where he gets so riled up that the intensity of the fight increases tenfold. Or his unpredictability...
That's at least as important as all the fighting.
#18
Posted 05 November 2007 - 04:45 PM
Did he get a sword, mask and ditch orange? Cause it sounds like 1341231 stories that I've read before. And I always end up reading these stories...I like torturing myself apparently.
There was one overpowered Naruto story that made me wish I wouldn't get flamed if I decided to take the idea and work from it. Because the Naruto was really power crazy. Seriously he had a mental problem. It was extremely creepy and I kept reading to see if the author was really trying to be subversive about the whole super!Naruto cliche.
Turns out that the author wasn't and I had to stop reading because how can you make Naruto's training so creepy and paint it as a good thing.
It was about Naruto getting letters every few months or so from his father (who is dead) and it would include various jutsu and training regimens. Naruto would then drop everything and slavishly follow those instructions to the letter. It was really creepy and seriously I want to write a story about the council trying to turn Naruto into a weapon by manipulating him emotionally through his father.
Damnit, now the idea won't go away. I need to write this. Screw the flames!
#20
Posted 05 November 2007 - 10:27 PM
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