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Posted 02 January 2017 - 06:27 PM

Do you not understand the concept of time? Sonic X came out five years after Naruto came out. You can't copy something that did't exist at the time.

 

Besides we all know what were the biggest inspirations for Naruto's manga, Kishi himself has admitted it, Dragonball Z, YU Yu Haksuho and Hunter X Hunter, Kishi did not need to copy from a thowaway series that was used to promote a Video game, he had popular multi-million selling series from the same publication he could copy off and not worry about getting sued over. Infact if you haven't read either series and were told the first part of both Hunter X Hunter and Naruto you'd think one was plagarising the other.

 

The Characters of Sonic change per series, their storyline changes per series, they are most likely written by different people each time. and let alone the fact most of the series you quote were released AFTER Naruto was released. and even if Sasuke's and Amy Rose's designs were inspiration for Sasuke's and Sakura's designs, (which is possible as the character is Amy Rose did get released about the same time Kishi would be working on Naruto, who cares, we take inspiration from all things, I don't see the links between the actual storylines at all, specially as i've pointed out, many of these plots you are quoting came after Naruto's tropes were already established, I don't think Sonic ever tried to kill Amy Rose, and Tails definitely was not in love with Amy when she was introduced.

 

Let's not forget Amy Rose made her debut back in the manga by Kenji Terada in 1992 then she made her video game debut in Sonic CD for the Sega CD in 1993 that was WAY before than when Kishi released the first chapter of Naruto.


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Posted 02 January 2017 - 09:20 PM

Do you not understand the concept of time? Sonic X came out five years after Naruto came out. You can't copy something that did't exist at the time.

 

Besides we all know what were the biggest inspirations for Naruto's manga, Kishi himself has admitted it, Dragonball Z, YU Yu Haksuho and Hunter X Hunter, Kishi did not need to copy from a thowaway series that was used to promote a Video game, he had popular multi-million selling series from the same publication he could copy off and not worry about getting sued over. Infact if you haven't read either series and were told the first part of both Hunter X Hunter and Naruto you'd think one was plagarising the other.

 

The Characters of Sonic change per series, their storyline changes per series, they are most likely written by different people each time. and let alone the fact most of the series you quote were released AFTER Naruto was released. and even if Sasuke's and Amy Rose's designs were inspiration for Sasuke's and Sakura's designs, (which is possible as the character is Amy Rose did get released about the same time Kishi would be working on Naruto, who cares, we take inspiration from all things, I don't see the links between the actual storylines at all, specially as i've pointed out, many of these plots you are quoting came after Naruto's tropes were already established, I don't think Sonic ever tried to kill Amy Rose, and Tails definitely was not in love with Amy when she was introduced.

 

HAHAHA.... you know it's really hard not to insult someone's intelligence when they present arguments such as this...


Lets address everything you said:


You said:"Do you not understand the concept of time? Sonic X came out five years after Naruto came out. You can't copy something that did't exist at the time."


Clearly this topic implies that Kishimoto gained inspiration from MULTIPLE Sonic series not limited to a single one, This only further proves that you didn't read the topic fully.


And i've pointed out that Amy was released BEFORE Sakura which I addressed in the topic which again shows your not reading the topic fully.


You said:"Besides we all know what were the biggest inspirations for Naruto's manga, Kishi himself has admitted it, Dragonball Z, YU Yu Haksuho and Hunter X Hunter, Kishi did not need to copy from a thowaway series that was used to promote a Video game, he had popular multi-million selling series from the same publication he could copy off and not worry about getting sued over. Infact if you haven't read either series and were told the first part of both Hunter X Hunter and Naruto you'd think one was plagarising the other."


True Kishimoto did state that the biggest inspirations for his Naruto series was Dragonball Z, Yu Yu Haksuho and Hunter X Hunter, But is that truly all he gained inspiration from ? This topic clearly implies that he possibly got his inspiration from else where as well which goes back to my point of Amy rose:


Yes I understand that ton's of female Anime characters have pink hair, But for Sakura to have:


1.)The same red and white colored dress with a red headband on their head and have green eyes AND HAVE PINK HAIR As Amy?

Amy's Appearance:

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Sakura's Appearance:

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2.)Sakura constantly romantically chase after a blue colored High speed moving male in hopes that the blue colored high speed moving male will return those feelings albeit they never do, Which ironically AMY DOES AS WELL ? 

3.)Sakura has a close and borderline romantic relationship with her orange colored friend WHO JUST HAPPENS TO BE A FOX ? which again ironically AMY DOES AS WELL ?


Is all kinda makes it all very suspicious of where Sakura's character originated from, because Amy the hedgehog was released BEFORE Sakura Haruno and As I've pointed out in this theory Kishimoto was inspired by sonic characters to create his Naruto characters so it's not to farfetched to assume that Amy the Hedgehog ALSO gave Kishimoto inspiration to create Sakura Haruno


And no the Sonic series is NOT a throwaway series, Sonic series is vastly bigger and more popular than the Naruto series world wide, It rivals the Mario franchise which is the #1 Anime/Gamming product brand marketed from japan and world wide Pokemon series coming in 2nd, Naruto doesn't come anywhere close to that not even the dragon ball series and even the dragon ball series is VASTLY bigger and more popular than the Naruto series.


And you think Kishimoto isn't plagiarizing from the Sonic series at all ? Amy rose just HAPPENS to have romantic feelings for her blue colored high speed moving friend Sonic who is barely if not NEVER there to spend time with her so her friend WHO HAPPENS TO BE A ORANGE FOX Tails that comforts her when Sonic isn't around to do it and in turn they develop friendly/Borderline romantic feelings for each other, So after hearing this how can you not see a comparable parallel to Naruto, Sakura, And Sasuke's relationship dynamic ? and what really gives this point some validly is that Naruto, Sasuke, And Sakura were created AFTER Sonic, Tails, And Amy were created so that should be a CLEAR sign where Kishimoto possibly got his inspiration from, do me a favor man and clean your glasses, oh and use bleach this time!



You said:"The Characters of Sonic change per series, their storyline changes per series, they are most likely written by different people each time. and let alone the fact most of the series you quote were released AFTER Naruto was released."

 

The characters change only for the theme of the game they are starring in, Such as the fairy tale Sonic game series (Sonic And The Black Knight) where Sonic and friends equip knightly armor, the Point i'm trying to make is that the Sonic series characters APPEARANCES changes but never their personality concepts, ALL THE CHARACTERS in the Sonic games always share a common trait that never changes in any of their games, their personalities, Name 1 Sonic game where Amy rose isn't constantly harrassing Sonic for His romantic affection, Name 1 Sonic game where Sonic doesn't share a rivalry with Shadow that parallels with Sasuke and Itachi ?


And Clearly I've pointed out Sonic game's/Anime series that was released BEFORE the Naruto series, that's what this topic is about, Showing that the Naruto series was created from the inspiration of the Sonic series THAT WAS RELEASED BEFORE THE NARUTO SERIES which again shows you didn't read the topic fully. 



You said:"and even if Sasuke's and Amy Rose's designs were inspiration for Sasuke's and Sakura's designs, (which is possible as the character is Amy Rose did get released about the same time Kishi would be working on Naruto, who cares, we take inspiration from all things,"


Wrong!



Sakura Haruno Character Creation Date:


September 21st, 1999
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Amy Rose Character Creation Date:


September 23rd 1993
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But at least now your seeing somewhat of a connection between Sakura and Amy




You said:"
who cares, we take inspiration from all things,"


Oh! so now your finally admitting Kishimoto was inspired by the Sonic series ?  :D
 



You said:"
I don't see the links between the actual storylines at all,"


Well sir that clearly means once again you didn't read the topic fully  :typing:
 



You said:"
I don't think Sonic ever tried to kill Amy Rose,"


Wrong!


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You said:"and Tails definitely was not in love with Amy when she was introduced."


Just as Sakura wasn't shown to be in love with Naruto when she was introduced but over time they developed a stronger relationship that is borderline romantic which is a parallel to Tails and Amy

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Next time if you are going to try to make someone point's look stupid at least READ THE POINTS before trying to refute them therefore you just made yourself look ignorant when your goal was to make me look ignorant  :typing:


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Posted 02 January 2017 - 09:33 PM

Okay so if your theory turns out to be true? What's your point? Why bring it now? It doesn't change the fact the Naruto manga was ruined. :zaru:


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Posted 03 January 2017 - 03:47 AM

You said:"Sonic and Sasuke is nothing alike."

This topic clearly explains rich in detail how Sasuke and Sonic are very much alike, you also just confirmed yourself to not reading the topic fully.

 

I read the whole thing and they are NOTHING alike. Sonic is a carefree spirit, heroic, one who never gives up, and actually puts others before him, he's adventurous. Sasuke is selfish, arrogant, and doesn't care about others as long as he gets his way in the end, he is even willing to kill people who cares about him to get his way. They are the complete opposite of each other. The only thing they have sort of have in common is a color scheme, and even then it's completely different.




In certain aspects yes, But Sonic shares that carefree calm nature with Sasuke and Naruto doesn't have, Naruto is loud and very open about himself which conflicts with the reserved nature of Sasuke and Sonic

And Sonic is probably one of the biggest quitters you can find hence him giving up on swiming lessons... Sure he stops at nothing to save the world but he is usually left with no other option but to, Naruto will save people regardless if he has to or not, he is much more heroic than Sonic, If you are drowning in water don't expect him to save you, Naruto would literally jump in a pit of lava damaging his own self just to save you, So I fail to see how you find Sonic and Naruto's very attitudes comparable ?  :huh: 

I don't ever see Sonic citing "I'll never give up no matter what" sure Sonic will say "I'll save my friends!" but when there's water around "oh never mind you guys can handle it yourselves!"

 

Lol, what version of Sonic have you been looking at? Are we in a alternate dimension? Sonic is adventurous,he is carefree but it doesn't override his entire personality. Sonic has ALWAYS been a showoff, he has always been brash, and while he likes to relax, he has never been quiet and reserved. He has his calm nature, but not to the extent like Sasuke to the point of being all to himself.

 

Sonic is one of  the biggest quitters you've ever seen? Lol, again, what version of Sonic have you been seeing? You're putting too much stock into Sonic X, and even then in Sonic X, he was the furthest thing from being a quitter. A little lazy in the show, of course, but he always gets the job done. He makes it his duty to save the world, he doesn't do it because he is forced into it. Sonic started off as a teenage hedgehog that decided to save all of the animals that Robotnik captured to roboticize, he didn't do it because he felt forced to do it, he saves the world because he is a hero at heart. Naruto is NOT more heroic than Sonic is lol. Sonic puts his life on the line just like Naruto does against any threat, regardless if he has his speed or not. Lol, Sonic in the very show you keep citing (Sonic X) jumped in the ocean to save Amy from drowning, as a matter of fact he did it twice and learned he could swim in the process. He even risked drowning in water to save his friends from Robotnik. They are both heroic, they both never gives up, they are both adventurous, they are both stubborn, hard headed, they talk kitten, they are both show offs, always on the move, energetic, hyperactive, cocky, determined... Should I keep going?

 

Lol, Sonic has said plenty of times that he doesn't give up. That he will do whatever it takes to save the world no matter how long it takes. Once again, he wasn't afraid of water when it came to saving Amy from it.


 

Again this topic clearly explains rich in detail how Naruto and Tails are very much alike, you also just confirmed yourself to not reading the topic fully..

 

I read the entire thing, and while I agree with the whole Fox thing, yellow with blue eyes.  I don't agree with their personality traits, they are completely different in almost every aspect except for loyalty to friends and being heroic. But other than that, they are nothing alike. And Tails does NOT have a crush on Amy lol.





Since pretty much when Tails and Amy were first created, Tails and Amy constantly go out on dates with each other:

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And lets not forget about that famous deleted Sonic X scene:
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When Sonic isn't around to protect Amy that's when Tails steps in, Now tell me how that doesn't parallel with Naruto protecting and staying by Sakura's side when Sasuke isn't around to do it, In fact Naruto has been doing it for the past 11 years Sarada's been alive while Sasuke neglects his family to stay on his atonement journey



It's Ironic that you guys call me ignorant of the Sonic series when apparently i'm showing more knowledge of it than you guys 

 

Lol, you keep referencing Sonic X and Sonic Boom and how they go on "dates," despite the fact that Tails HAS never shown in romantic interest in Amy and vice versa lol. She has always been in love with Sonic. She KNOWS her feelings for Sonic, she doesn't sway. Her heart has always been for Sonic, NEVER for Tails. Tails has never liked Amy neither and he sure isn't in love with her. Naruto and Sakura-Chan on the other hand is different, he loves her and she loves him(IMO).

 

You're showing these images, but neglect the fact that Tails had more of borderline romantic relationship with Cosmo in Sonic X than Amy lol. They was even in love with each other. Those images you're showing is moot, because besides Sonic X and Sonic Boom, Amy and Tails have never went out with each other and when they did, it was nothing more than something on the friendship level. Besides the fact that Naruto has been in love with Sakura-Chan long before Sonic X and Sonic Boom even came out.

 

Tails would step in to save anybody because he is a hero at heart much like Sonic and he aspires to be like Sonic, he wouldn't do it just for Amy. Sonic ALWAYS protects Amy, always saves Amy and his personality in my opinion is more like Naruto's than Tail's personality could ever be. Also lol, the times Tails had to step in to protect Amy wasn't that much because Sonic almost always does the job.

 

From what I hear you saying, most of your knowledge is from Sonic X and Sonic Boom and a few comic books. But you really shouldn't say that, with the stuff that you're typing. 

 


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Posted 03 January 2017 - 05:51 PM

 

You said:"Sonic and Sasuke is nothing alike."

This topic clearly explains rich in detail how Sasuke and Sonic are very much alike, you also just confirmed yourself to not reading the topic fully.

 

I read the whole thing and they are NOTHING alike. Sonic is a carefree spirit, heroic, one who never gives up, and actually puts others before him, he's adventurous. Sasuke is selfish, arrogant, and doesn't care about others as long as he gets his way in the end, he is even willing to kill people who cares about him to get his way. They are the complete opposite of each other. The only thing they have sort of have in common is a color scheme, and even then it's completely different.




In certain aspects yes, But Sonic shares that carefree calm nature with Sasuke and Naruto doesn't have, Naruto is loud and very open about himself which conflicts with the reserved nature of Sasuke and Sonic

And Sonic is probably one of the biggest quitters you can find hence him giving up on swiming lessons... Sure he stops at nothing to save the world but he is usually left with no other option but to, Naruto will save people regardless if he has to or not, he is much more heroic than Sonic, If you are drowning in water don't expect him to save you, Naruto would literally jump in a pit of lava damaging his own self just to save you, So I fail to see how you find Sonic and Naruto's very attitudes comparable ?  :huh: 

I don't ever see Sonic citing "I'll never give up no matter what" sure Sonic will say "I'll save my friends!" but when there's water around "oh never mind you guys can handle it yourselves!"

 

Lol, what version of Sonic have you been looking at? Are we in a alternate dimension? Sonic is adventurous,he is carefree but it doesn't override his entire personality. Sonic has ALWAYS been a showoff, he has always been brash, and while he likes to relax, he has never been quiet and reserved. He has his calm nature, but not to the extent like Sasuke to the point of being all to himself.

 

Sonic is one of  the biggest quitters you've ever seen? Lol, again, what version of Sonic have you been seeing? You're putting too much stock into Sonic X, and even then in Sonic X, he was the furthest thing from being a quitter. A little lazy in the show, of course, but he always gets the job done. He makes it his duty to save the world, he doesn't do it because he is forced into it. Sonic started off as a teenage hedgehog that decided to save all of the animals that Robotnik captured to roboticize, he didn't do it because he felt forced to do it, he saves the world because he is a hero at heart. Naruto is NOT more heroic than Sonic is lol. Sonic puts his life on the line just like Naruto does against any threat, regardless if he has his speed or not. Lol, Sonic in the very show you keep citing (Sonic X) jumped in the ocean to save Amy from drowning, as a matter of fact he did it twice and learned he could swim in the process. He even risked drowning in water to save his friends from Robotnik. They are both heroic, they both never gives up, they are both adventurous, they are both stubborn, hard headed, they talk kitten, they are both show offs, always on the move, energetic, hyperactive, cocky, determined... Should I keep going?

 

Lol, Sonic has said plenty of times that he doesn't give up. That he will do whatever it takes to save the world no matter how long it takes. Once again, he wasn't afraid of water when it came to saving Amy from it.


 

Again this topic clearly explains rich in detail how Naruto and Tails are very much alike, you also just confirmed yourself to not reading the topic fully..

 

I read the entire thing, and while I agree with the whole Fox thing, yellow with blue eyes.  I don't agree with their personality traits, they are completely different in almost every aspect except for loyalty to friends and being heroic. But other than that, they are nothing alike. And Tails does NOT have a crush on Amy lol.





Since pretty much when Tails and Amy were first created, Tails and Amy constantly go out on dates with each other:

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And lets not forget about that famous deleted Sonic X scene:
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When Sonic isn't around to protect Amy that's when Tails steps in, Now tell me how that doesn't parallel with Naruto protecting and staying by Sakura's side when Sasuke isn't around to do it, In fact Naruto has been doing it for the past 11 years Sarada's been alive while Sasuke neglects his family to stay on his atonement journey



It's Ironic that you guys call me ignorant of the Sonic series when apparently i'm showing more knowledge of it than you guys 

 

Lol, you keep referencing Sonic X and Sonic Boom and how they go on "dates," despite the fact that Tails HAS never shown in romantic interest in Amy and vice versa lol. She has always been in love with Sonic. She KNOWS her feelings for Sonic, she doesn't sway. Her heart has always been for Sonic, NEVER for Tails. Tails has never liked Amy neither and he sure isn't in love with her. Naruto and Sakura-Chan on the other hand is different, he loves her and she loves him(IMO).

 

You're showing these images, but neglect the fact that Tails had more of borderline romantic relationship with Cosmo in Sonic X than Amy lol. They was even in love with each other. Those images you're showing is moot, because besides Sonic X and Sonic Boom, Amy and Tails have never went out with each other and when they did, it was nothing more than something on the friendship level. Besides the fact that Naruto has been in love with Sakura-Chan long before Sonic X and Sonic Boom even came out.

 

Tails would step in to save anybody because he is a hero at heart much like Sonic and he aspires to be like Sonic, he wouldn't do it just for Amy. Sonic ALWAYS protects Amy, always saves Amy and his personality in my opinion is more like Naruto's than Tail's personality could ever be. Also lol, the times Tails had to step in to protect Amy wasn't that much because Sonic almost always does the job.

 

From what I hear you saying, most of your knowledge is from Sonic X and Sonic Boom and a few comic books. But you really shouldn't say that, with the stuff that you're typing. 

 

 

This is the last time I clarify this topic... 


Now lets address your points:


You said:"I read the whole thing and they are NOTHING alike. Sonic is a carefree spirit, heroic, one who never gives up, and actually puts others before him, he's adventurous."


on the contrary you just proven that Sasuke and Sonic ARE alike, Sasuke is a carefree spirit, do I need to remind you of the countless times he has rejected the romantic advances of the females close to him ? and all the times he has ignored his friends just so he can pursue his own goals ? Sonic has also exhibited these personality traits and yet you have the audacity to say they are not alike ?   :huh: 


Sasuke also believes in the never giving up attitude, he never gave up on his goal to kill certain people he had vendetta's against despite his friends close to him pleading to him to give up on that objective


And Sasuke does have the heart to put others before him, he just walked on a path of darkness that he forsaken his true self in order to walk on that path, but guess what ? Sonic doesn't have a clean record he is guilty of it to, abandoning his friends to walk on a path of darkness:

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And you don't think Sasuke is adventurous ? LOL ? Does his atonement journey ring a bell ? matter of fact the anime is currently adapting episodes of Sasukes ADVENTURES while he's on the atonement journey.  




You said:"Sasuke is selfish, arrogant, and doesn't care about others as long as he gets his way in the end,"


Again... Sonic is also like that, lets take a look:


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Sonic was willing to sacrifice Amy's life by letting eggman kill her just so he could keep the chaos emerald, Sonic is not a perfect angel that you are implying him to be, Sonic the hedgehog inspired the creation of Sasuke Uchiha which is why Sasuke is very cruel and uncaring to Sakura, Sonic despises Amy and Sasuke despises Sakura, connect the dots man

 


You said:"The only thing they have sort of have in common is a color scheme, and even then it's completely different."


Anyone who says this topic only compares "Color Scheme" Similarities between the characters of the Naruto and Sonic series obviously didn't read the topic fully




You said:"Lol, what version of Sonic have you been looking at? Are we in a alternate dimension? Sonic is adventurous,he is carefree but it doesn't override his entire personality. Sonic has ALWAYS been a showoff, he has always been brash, and while he likes to relax, he has never been quiet and reserved. He has his calm nature, but not to the extent like Sasuke to the point of being all to himself."


Once again... You have inadvertently described Sasuke...


So now I will ask YOU... Are WE in a alternate dimension ? because the the dimension that I and I assume that you too are in since you are replying to my points in this same dimension... Are we reading/watching the same Naruto series ? Sasuke has been virtually traveling the world AWAY from his home village he was NOT home bound for like 70% of the Naruto series whether it's him on a revenge quest or atonement journey Sasuke has shown to not be a man to stay in on place which CLEARLY means he is adventurous  


And Sasuke is a Major Showoff that's even apart of his character theme, to make himself look better than Naruto at everything they do, Also Sasuke was ALWAYS showing off his abilities to his Masters so that they would be impressed by him so that they could train him so that he could get strong enough to defeat his brother Itachi, 


And Sonic prefers solitude the most important thing to him in life is running around the world where ever the wind takes him,

 

Yes Sasuke and Sonic share many similarities true but I only pointed out WHAT MAKES THEM SIMILAR, I never ONCE said that Kishimoto PERFECTLY copied everything about the Sonic series this topic clearly shows that I pointed out SOME similarities between the characters of Naruto and Sonic The Hedgehog series, I have never ONCE said that every Naruto character created is a perfect copy of each Sonic the Hedgehog character,


If Kishimoto ACTUALLY copied EVERYTHING about the Sonic The Hedgehog series as you are saying that I am, that would mean that Sasuke would be A hedgehog battling a evil genius, Naruto would be a genius fox dreaming to be a great scientist, And Sakura and Amy are the most significantly comparable out of all the sonic and naruto characters I pointed out to be similar but even they have differences such as both not being hedgehog's So I don't know where you are getting this thought that I'm implying that Kishimoto Copied EVERYTHING about the Sonic series     :huh: 



The fact that I DIDN'T say that Sasuke and Sonic are perfectly similar and only pointed out WHAT MAKES THEM SIMILAR CLEARLY MEANS THAT I'M NOT SAYING THAT SASUKE AND SONIC ARE PERFECTLY THE SAME as you are implying that I am. 


The fact that I didn't point out that Kishimoto didn't copy everything about the sonic series CLEARLY MEANS that I NEVER SAID that Kishimoto PERFECTLY COPIED everything as you are Implying that I did.


 

You are getting the wrong Idea out of this topic buddy, This topic just points out Many similarities that the Naruto and Sonic the Hedgehog characters share that lead me to believe that Kishimoto COULD'VE have gotten inspiration from the Sonic series when he was creating his Naruto series Characters, that's why I've always said "COULD'VE" within this topic which clearly tells me you didn't read the topic fully that's why you're probably thinking that I'm saying that Kishimoto copied everything about the Sonic The Hedgehog series.



You said:"Sonic is one of  the biggest quitters you've ever seen? Lol, again, what version of Sonic have you been seeing? You're putting too much stock into Sonic X, and even then in Sonic X, he was the furthest thing from being a quitter. A little lazy in the show, of course, but he always gets the job done. He makes it his duty to save the world, he doesn't do it because he is forced into it."



Once again this also describes Sasuke....


Sasuke is always traveling around the world looking for any threats that pose a danger to the lands of the earth that he lives on which means HE MAKES IT HIS DUTY TO SAVE THE WORLD, he does it as a way to atone for his crimes against the ninja world WHICH CLEARLY MEANS IT'S HIS CHOICE IN THE MATTER not that he was forced to do it


And I'm tired of you saying all of my Sonic arguments derive from the Sonic X series... Sonic has consistently shown the inability to swim it's apart of the theme of his character, name 1 Sonic game besides the Olympics game series that Sonic is able to swim without losing a life by just simply touching the water ? So therefore my arguments about Sonic giving up on his friends when water is involved still stands.




You said:"Sonic started off as a teenage hedgehog that decided to save all of the animals that Robotnik captured to roboticize, he didn't do it because he felt forced to do it, he saves the world because he is a hero at heart. Naruto is NOT more heroic than Sonic is lol. Sonic puts his life on the line just like Naruto does against any threat, regardless if he has his speed or not."



Again.. you are implying that I said that Kishimoto made Sasuke's story PERFECTLY similiar to Sonic's which I never did in this topic You are getting the wrong Idea out of this topic buddy, This topic just points out Many similarities that the Naruto and Sonic the Hedgehog characters share that lead me to believe that Kishimoto COULD'VE have gotten inspiration from the Sonic series when he was creating his Naruto series Characters, that's why I've always said "COULD'VE" within this topic which clearly tells me you didn't read the topic fully because you missed the countless time's I've said "COULD'VE" that's why you're probably thinking that I'm saying that Kishimoto copied everything about the Sonic The Hedgehog series.


Sasuke has always had a heroic heart, he just let the darkness inside of him consume him but the heroic side of him was still there, thats how he was able to go back to it when Naruto was finally able to convince him to stop walking on a path of darkness


Now that he's off that path of darkness he travels around the world committing heroic deeds by protecting anyone who is in danger which means he CHOOSES to put his life on the line against any threat,



You said:"Lol, Sonic in the very show you keep citing (Sonic X) jumped in the ocean to save Amy from drowning, as a matter of fact he did it twice and learned he could swim in the process. He even risked drowning in water to save his friends from Robotnik. They are both heroic, they both never gives up, they are both adventurous, they are both stubborn, hard headed, they talk kitten, they are both show offs, always on the move, energetic, hyperactive, cocky, determined... Should I keep going?"


Again.... you inadvertently and unintentionally described Sasuke...


Yes sonic has jumped into the water to save Amy from it but he didn't he had to be saved from the water as well and was seen to be regretful for doing it to


The Cosmo Arc in Sonic X does not adapt any known Sonic Game/Comic it was a original story created by the studio that produced the episodes, apparently the writer of the Cosmo arc didn't know very much about Sonic or he wouldn't have written the scene where he would be willing to save Amy from the water, major plot hole that was heavily omitted


It's true that I said that Kishimoto took some inspiration from the Cosmo arc in Sonic X but he didn't perfectly copy it as you are implying that I am saying...



You said:"Lol, Sonic has said plenty of times that he doesn't give up. That he will do whatever it takes to save the world no matter how long it takes. Once again, he wasn't afraid of water when it came to saving Amy from it."


Again Sasuke shares a significant degree of the never giving up attitude, Once his mind is set it will be near impossible to change it, His stubbornness rivals even Naruto's, May I remind you of the countless attempts it took to persuade Sasuke to stop Sasuke from walking on a path of darkness, now that he walks on a path of light he should stay on that path for a very long time if he doesn't forsake his character theme of never giving up on his objectives



You said:"I read the entire thing, and while I agree with the whole Fox thing, yellow with blue eyes.  I don't agree with their personality traits, they are completely different in almost every aspect except for loyalty to friends and being heroic. But other than that, they are nothing alike. And Tails does NOT have a crush on Amy lol."


Again... Anyone who says this topic only compares "Color Scheme" Similarities between the characters of the Naruto and Sonic series obviously didn't read the topic fully


And within the Naruto And Tails Section of this topic I have NEVER compared Naruto and Tails personality to be similar so I don't know how you can argue against something I've never said ?  :huh:
 


Also I've never said that Tails had a crush on Amy, I said that they have a borderline romantic relationship, Do you know what borderline means ? it means on the edge, Tails and Amy's relationship is so close that they on the edge of taking it to the next level, it's not romantic yet but it's close to progressing to that point, this parallels with Naruto and Sakura's relationship and also relates to my other theory, Naruto and Sakura have a solid borderline romantic relationship all Sakura needs is a little push to start looking at Naruto in a new way, the fact that Naruto raises her daughter Sarada while Sasuke isn't doing it is a good start,


Tails doesn't have a crush on Amy yet but he has the potential to soon realize it since Amy is the person that he spends the most time with even more so than Sonic, what I mean is eventually he will figure out what is causing him to want to spend so much time with Amy.



You said:"
Lol, you keep referencing Sonic X and Sonic Boom and how they go on "dates," despite the fact that Tails HAS never shown in romantic interest in Amy and vice versa lol. She has always been in love with Sonic. She KNOWS her feelings for Sonic, she doesn't sway. Her heart has always been for Sonic, NEVER for Tails. Tails has never liked Amy neither and he sure isn't in love with her. Naruto and Sakura-Chan on the other hand is different, he loves her and she loves him(IMO)."


Again.. 
I've never said that Tails had a crush on Amy, I said that they have a borderline romantic relationship, Do you know what borderline means ? it means on the edge, Tails and Amy's relationship is so close that they on the edge of taking it to the next level, it's not romantic yet but it's close to progressing to that point, this parallels with Naruto and Sakura's relationship and also relates to my other theory, Naruto and Sakura have a solid borderline romantic relationship all Sakura needs is a little push to start looking at Naruto in a new way, the fact that Naruto raises her daughter Sarada while Sasuke isn't doing it is a good start,


Like Sakura, Amy's feelings for Sonic are based on superficial reasons such as good looks, cool demeanor, strong, and heroic, But the relationship Amy shares with Tails is on a MUCH deeper level of compassion and understanding, Tails understands Amy better than anyone he knows what she loves to eat, he is always there to protect Amy when Sonic isn't around to do it, he understands her feelings for Sonic and he tries to bring them together but Sonic rejects her every time and that puts her in deep pain of despair, eventually Tails will figure out why he is so willing to do so much for Amy which is obvious... a crush


You said:"
You're showing these images, but neglect the fact that Tails had more of borderline romantic relationship with Cosmo in Sonic X than Amy lol. They was even in love with each other. Those images you're showing is moot, because besides Sonic X and Sonic Boom, Amy and Tails have never went out with each other and when they did, it was nothing more than something on the friendship level. Besides the fact that Naruto has been in love with Sakura-Chan long before Sonic X and Sonic Boom even came out."


ok this point confirms you didn't read the topic fully, I have addressed Tails and Cosmo's romantic relationship in the (Hinata And Cosmo) section of this topic, And clearly i've shown scenes where Tails and Amy spent time with each other that isn't limited to just Sonic X and Sonic boom, again read the topic fully please



You said:"
Tails would step in to save anybody because he is a hero at heart much like Sonic and he aspires to be like Sonic, he wouldn't do it just for Amy. Sonic ALWAYS protects Amy, always saves Amy and his personality in my opinion is more like Naruto's than Tail's personality could ever be. Also lol, the times Tails had to step in to protect Amy wasn't that much because Sonic almost always does the job."


Now doesn't that sound familiar to Naruto aspiring to be like Sasuke so that he would gain the same attention as him, and according to (The Last Naruto The Movie) even though it was a lie, Naruto was trying to be every Sasuke was in order to gain Sakura's feelings, And on the contrary Tails has saved Amy from danger many more times than Sonic has it's just that people tend to forget that... Tails and Amy's relationship is in the making, and their strong borderline romantic relationship validates that


You said:"From what I hear you saying, most of your knowledge is from Sonic X and Sonic Boom and a few comic books. But you really shouldn't say that, with the stuff that you're typing."


Anyone who says my knowledge only comes from the Sonic X anime series and a few comic books obviously didn't read the topic fully because clearly I've shown some cannon material from the Sonic games as well.

From what I hear you saying, most of your knowledge is from Sonic X and Sonic Boom and a few comic books. But you really shouldn't say that, with the stuff that you're typing. 



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Posted 03 January 2017 - 08:47 PM

I still don't see the point of comparing Naruto to Sonic. :headscratch:


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