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[TouKen4Life3g]

That's what I feel too, the next phase of this battle up to the end of this fight will resolve one pairing once and for all, it can go either way it's Kishi's call.

Glad you understand. So yes, it's do or die. We either get drunk of happiness or depression. Flashback is almost done.

[Derock]

Wow people still talk about this pairing with assurance? NS needs a bullet to the head,

Wow. Just wow.

First of all, what the hell you say NaruSaku needs to take a bullet to the head? Why post this in front of site that is dedicated to the pairing, that you considered to take a bullet.

Next, why are you talking about porn? You're saw called precious goddess haven't getting some lately? Take that somewhere else, because we have fans whom aren't near the legal age of 18.

You know what, you go bye-bye.

[Otaru]

Guys

Out of overeacting...

We should not forget that covers are significant in regard of the story.
Covers usually show the truth.
So yes, it's just basically something that's happening in the volume, but why THIS instead of anything else happening in the volume ?
Kishi choose to draw Hinata and Naruto on the cover.
I think it's because it's important in regard of the story.
He's basically telling us this event is not a shadow event, but something relevant to the story.

I'm realling starting to ask myself questions...
i really really don't understand Kishi anymore.

It's just like reading another manga.
I don't understand.

And please, don't tell me i'm on crisis or i'm overeacting or something else.
I'm just using me head to think.

There is a looooooooong time since Kishi did something pro-NaruSaku.
I really don't understand why, but could it be possible he changes his direction ?
To me, what he is doing is really confusing.

Edited by Otaru, 27 March 2013 - 10:40 PM.

[HauntedCake]

Glad you understand. So yes, it's do or die. We either get drunk of happiness or depression. Flashback is almost done.

If NH happens then.... ok fine it's not a bad pairing, just ass-pulled and no development to it. If SS happens then i will drop this manga and forget it forever. I want NS to happen but if NH happens ok fine. But if that leads to SS i'm done with the manga.

[Don-kun]

I know. To me, one pairing will die here and when it happens, it will be obvious from that point on. I just hope there's isn't too much confusion of who's going whom. Luckily, for now, Sasuke being the opposing side does lessen the chance for many mushy stuff, unlike NH, they're in the same side. So yeah, it will be resolved in this next battle phase in my opinion.


Apparently it is. Sigh. I told you. NH is the main threat and no one here wants to admit it.

One question:
Who is the person Kishimoto favors the most in this Manga?

Witch clan is he starting to make them look like victims?

We all know that Naruto and Sasuke bond is a real F up bond but doesn't Kishimoto really admires this bond?

I don't know but I really cannot see NH being a more dangerous pairing than SS, I don't know why but with all the stuff this pairing went true the fact still remains that Kishimoto forcing a hard to believes love for Sasuke from 3 girls.

If Kishi allows Sakura to fully develop and explore her feelings for both guys, then NH has no chance, but if the story continue this way NS might have no chance and not because of NH.
You might call me crazy but this is how I honestly feel about the pairing, NH for me, is missing something and Hinata knows too little about Naruto and his problems apart from that never give up mentality while there is nothing standing in their way.

Also there is the fact that Naruto could admit that he still wants to confess to Sakura and NH will be all over.

Edited by Don-kun, 27 March 2013 - 10:48 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

If NH happens then.... ok fine it's not a bad pairing, just ass-pulled and no development to it. If SS happens then i will drop this manga and forget it forever. I want NS to happen but if NH happens ok fine. But if that leads to SS i'm done with the manga.

Sadly, that's the case if NH becomes canon. I'll tell you what. If NH becomes canon, okish yet little-to-no development at all, then well, ebay, here I come. Not that I have a lot of stuff but boy, I don't want crap in my house anymore. That's my bet and sticking to it.

[六道仙人]

If NH happens then.... ok fine it's not a bad pairing, just ass-pulled and no development to it. If SS happens then i will drop this manga and forget it forever. I want NS to happen but if NH happens ok fine. But if that leads to SS i'm done with the manga.

drop? Done? Kishimoto will slyly make canon SS at the end of story... Because you know, you have no other choiche but to drop the manga when it finishes LOLOLOLOL

Edited by 六道仙人, 27 March 2013 - 10:45 PM.

[HauntedCake]

Guys

Out of overeacting...

We should not forget that covers are significant in regard of the story.
Covers usually show the truth.
So yes, it's just basically something that's happening in the volume, but why THIS instead of anything else happening in the volume ?
Kishi choose to draw Hinata and Naruto on the cover.
I think it's because it's important in regard of the story.
He's basically telling us this event is not a shadow event, but something relevant to the story.

I'm realling starting to ask myself questions...
i really really don't understand Kishi anymore.

It's just like reading another manga.
I don't understand.

And please, don't tell me i'm on crisis or i'm overeacting or something else.
I'm just using me head to think.

There is a looooooooong time since Kishi did something pro-NaruSaku.
I really don't understand why, but could it be possible he changes his direction ?
To me, what he is doing is really confusing.

Ye, 5 kage arc could of been closure for NS, sad to think this but since then we have had NOTHING. We have had RTN but to be fair it's fanservice.

Sigh* It's not over yet however but as it stands we are loosing.

[Awes9]

Glad you understand. So yes, it's do or die. We either get drunk of happiness or depression. Flashback is almost done.

It all depends on how it's done, if NS becomes canon and the writing is subpar I won't be satisfied at all, the same is true for NH if he can resolve Naruto's feelings in a satisfying way and then make NH canon then I am ok with it. In both cases I think Kisji will have a hell of hard time making it convincing and right now none of them is convincing or believable, they both seem forced. Still I will only judge in the end but my trust in Kishi is low.
Oh well at least I still have my sweet Tobirama.

[rocci]

I know. To me, one pairing will die here and when it happens, it will be obvious from that point on. I just hope there's isn't too much confusion of who's going whom. Luckily, for now, Sasuke being the opposing side does lessen the chance for many mushy stuff, unlike NH, they're in the same side. So yeah, it will be resolved in this next battle phase in my opinion.


Apparently it is. Sigh. I told you. NH is the main threat and no one here wants to admit it.

Well I am more afraid with kishi golden boy and what can he do, but for now yes it's Hinata our biggest threat and do you know how can she become a threat? It's because naruto did'nt say I love you sakura in the long time and most fandom think he is over with sakura.

But I SMELL "the who is tobi" kind of thing and what or who is pain

I can be wrong but suddenly kishi make romance important? YEAHHH

[TouKen4Life3g]

One question:
Who is the person Kishimoto favors the most in this Manga?

Witch clan is he starting to make them look like victims?

We all know that Naruto and Sasuke bond is a real F up bond but doesn't Kishimoto really admires this bond?

I don't know but I really cannot see NH being a more dangerous pairing than SS, I don't know why but with all the stuff this pairing went true the fact still remains that Kishimoto forcing a hard to believes love for Sasuke from 3 girls.

If Kishi allows Sakura to fully develop and explore her feelings for both guys, then NH has no chance, but if the story continue this way NS might have no chance and not because of NH.
You might call me crazy but this is how I honestly feel about the pairing, NH for me, is missing something and Hinata knows too little about Naruto and his poblems apart from that never give up mentality while there is nothing standing in their way.

Interesting take. Well, to be honest, I do think he wished to develop more on SN because it does seem Hashirama/Madara is what should have been if we need to understand why it's best for Naruto to save Sasuke. Yeah, it's his first bond, but whatever, I guess I have to take it for what it is. Honestly, the flashback is just telling me that no one is perfect and no one is truly good. We all make mistake and we all can create newfound evil by power and not just physical power but political power. The problem is that Uchiha done horrible things to Senju, who happened to call peace treaty, and it doesn't help that Madara is making them look bad. Hashirama wanted to erase the past and wanted to give Madara another chance because while his clan did kill his relatives, Senju ultimately killed all of his relatives. The only way to make a balance, he wanted him to take over to feel part of family (strangely parallel to SN), but now, he lost his mind.

[HauntedCake]

It all depends on how it's done, if NS becomes canon and the writing is subpar I won't be satisfied at all, the same is true for NH if he can resolve Naruto's feelings in a satisfying way and then make NH canon then I am ok with it. In both cases I think Kisji will have a hell of hard time making it convincing and right now none of them is convincing or believable, they both seem forced. Still I will only judge in the end but my trust in Kishi is low.
Oh well at least I still have my sweet Tobirama.

Here's the thing, if it is to be done properly he doesn't have much time to do so. He has several fights to get through in a short amount of time. It's all going to be rushed.

1) 10 tails?
2) obito
3) Madara
4) orochimaru + kage?
5) sasuke

Thats a lot to get through in what 100-150 chapters?? + any flashbacks required for pairings.

10 tails could be done relitavly quickly 5-15 chapters maybe less

Obito again will be quick 10 chapters ish

Madara will take longer i guess 10-25 max??

Orochimaru + taka + kage 20+?

Sasuke - 25+?

Give or take could take more but... all seeems squashed

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Wow people still talk about this pairing with assurance? NS needs a bullet to the head, it's a cult of denial washing in a sea of OOC fan made traits that degrade a girl to be the main characters posessive mommy and kitten hole. I really hate how creppy hentai otaku like sunahara makes misconceptionally leading porn of a pairing so far from any sexual beligerance that it creates a fantasy of two people enjoying a couple who doesn't have mutual feelings towards each other. NS is basically self projecting the protagonist as the boyfriend of a girl who's agressively bipolar and simply a insecure mess of a female lead who depends off of said protagonist for another angle with the rival romantically. Or maybe it's stopped being about the couple and more about boinking the girl who represents our deepest failures in trying to woo.

Hinata on the other hand, is pretty much what Naruto needs, a partner and a great idealist like he is, Sakura is pragmatic and fickle just like the other characters who oppose Naruto's philsophy, her logic and her basis of understanding concept make her less understanding of a vision Naruto seeks and will seek out. NS also unlike NH has no balance, charisma, trust or faith it's all smokes and mirrors. Sakura and Naruto have more panel time but they always never seek out each other for a personal conflict they hide there feelings and dwell on the past tense especially involving Sasuke. So it's like a one night stand for shot term couples.

I see the fans as fair though, I won't judge there preference in the couple but alot of fans think just because Naruto and Sakura are close and undoubtly one of the manga's best dynamics means they have to fall in love or force Sakura to fall in love with Naruto.

>I wont judge the preference in the couple
>NS needs a bullet in the head.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 27 March 2013 - 11:19 PM.

[Awes9]

Here's the thing, if it is to be done properly he doesn't have much time to do so. He has several fights to get through in a short amount of time. It's all going to be rushed.

1) 10 tails?
2) obito
3) Madara
4) orochimaru + kage?
5) sasuke

Thats a lot to get through in what 100-150 chapters?? + any flashbacks required for pairings.

10 tails could be done relitavly quickly 5-15 chapters maybe less

Obito again will be quick 10 chapters ish

Madara will take longer i guess 10-25 max??

Orochimaru + taka + kage 20+?

Sasuke - 25+?

Give or take could take more but... all seeems squashed

I really don't want to make predictions so let's wait and see, but right now all I see sloppy writing. It's up to Kishomoto to prove me wrong.

[Otaru]

http://www.tumblr.co...moto is a troll

[Moriarty]

>I wont judge the preference in the couple
>NS needs a bullet in the head.

I think... I think he meant the pairing not the people who pair them.
Person aggressively stated it, but you are taking what the person said out of context. a+b doesn't always equal c.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I think... I think he meant the pairing not the people who pair them.
Person aggressively stated it, but you are taking what the person said out of context. a+b doesn't always equal c.

On both statements he talked about the fandom not the pairing, the first NS needs a bullet in the head is followed by "a cult of people in denial".
And then "I wont judge the preference on the pairing."
So then ZIMBABWE.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 27 March 2013 - 11:32 PM.

[Moriarty]

On both statements he talked about the fandom not the pairing, the first NS needs a bullet in the head is followed by "a cult of people in denial".
And then "I wont judge the preference on the pairing."
So then ZIMBABWE.

He isn't judging the fans for preference of the pairing of choice. The person from what I read is describing the overall behavior of the fans. And how they choose to act and ship the pairing.
Ideal it would have been better if he wasn't so rude about it, but did not judge for preference of pairing.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Ye, 5 kage arc could of been closure for NS, sad to think this but since then we have had NOTHING. We have had RTN but to be fair it's fanservice.

Sigh* It's not over yet however but as it stands we are loosing.

Again, there are couple of open ended of NS and I probably have to explain soon but right now, I'm a bit busy. You can say we're losing, but what did you call it during Pain arc before the finale?

It all depends on how it's done, if NS becomes canon and the writing is subpar I won't be satisfied at all, the same is true for NH if he can resolve Naruto's feelings in a satisfying way and then make NH canon then I am ok with it. In both cases I think Kisji will have a hell of hard time making it convincing and right now none of them is convincing or believable, they both seem forced. Still I will only judge in the end but my trust in Kishi is low.
Oh well at least I still have my sweet Tobirama.

Which is why I'm still here, to see how it all goes down. One pairing will be confirmed friendly bond, while the other will be romance potential. Well, honestly, NH is always feel forced due to lack of developments and time is near end, so that's a big problem. For NS, it's not; however, very soon he must have NS in a spotlight to show that it's there and no longer feels like he forgot about it, which is already ready to ship off as canon, but the longer he takes, especially Sakura is there, the longer it will be odd to see. It's like when you take to long, you only gain points that's left over after deduction. Nevertheless, we wait and see.

Well I am more afraid with kishi golden boy and what can he do, but for now yes it's Hinata our biggest threat and do you know how can she become a threat? It's because naruto did'nt say I love you sakura in the long time and most fandom think he is over with sakura.

But I SMELL "the who is tobi" kind of thing and what or who is pain

I can be wrong but suddenly kishi make romance important? YEAHHH

I do smell a Tobi as well. It's only matter of time.

About your last statement, I think the question to that part is "If the romance is important, are we seeing it now or has it not been engaged?" It's kind of like when he said he will try to add romance in part 2, it made me think what did I just saw then, especially if SS supposedly to be romantic, which seems to be more of a development of Sakura and Team 7 in general. So basically what I'm trying to say is that the romance importance is on now, or when Team 7 focus happens again? That remains to be answered.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

He isn't judging the fans for preference of the pairing of choice. The person from what I read is describing the overall behavior of the fans. And how they choose to act and ship the pairing.
Ideal it would have been better if he wasn't so rude about it, but did not judge for preference of pairing.

I'm not going to enter on an arguing he did said "NS needs to take a bullet in the head" i dont get if he didnt judge the pairing which he did on the last phrase he started with "NS needs to take a bullet on the head, then followed by "a cult of people in denial" it's the same as you when you said that i didnt experienced love on my life just because i dont agree with you.

the same way he judged the NS fans just because they ship it saying they need to take a bullet on the head and therefore saying they are people in denial, you judged me saying that i never experienced love on my life just because i didnt agree with that statement that had a falacious logic.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 27 March 2013 - 11:54 PM.