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[shika1]

[Kaeta]

And nh/ss fans complain about us using parallels...

[FireFox]

And nh/ss fans complain about us using parallels...

Go figure  , they will only see a parallel or make one out of nowhere only when it fits them but for us we are insane and delusional if do that  .

[ns.Believe.It]

Go figure  , they will only see a parallel or make one out of nowhere only when it fits them but for us we are insane and delusional if do that  .

Silence, You non-believer! HINATA is just like MINATO!!! 

Edited by ns.Believe.It, 29 July 2014 - 11:38 AM.

[luffyq1]

And nh/ss fans complain about us using parallels...

lol

[FireFox]

Silence, You non-believer! HINATA is just like MINATO!!! 

What are you talking about you traitor   She is like Kushina they have the same length of Hair  .

[ns.Believe.It]

What are you talking about you traitor   She is like Kushina they have the same length of Hair  .

Ah,you are right. HINATA is like KUSHINA and NARUTO is like MINATO    Parallolzzz!!!!

 

What happened?! Minato compared SAKURA to KUSHINA?!

 

No matter! NARUTO is like KUSHINA too! KushinaxKushina makes no sense   Now HINATA is like MINATO! 

MinaKushi-NaruHina Parallolzz accomplished !!! 

Edited by ns.Believe.It, 29 July 2014 - 11:59 AM.

[FireFox]

Ah,you are right. HINATA is like KUSHINA and NARUTO is like MINATO    Parallolzzz!!!!

 

What happened?! Minato compared SAKURA to KUSHINA?!

 

No matter! NARUTO is like KUSHINA too! KushinaxKushina makes no sense   Now HINATA is like MINATO! 

MinaKushi-NaruHina Parallolzz accomplished !!! 

That's NH logic for you , if you can't beat it then twist it as much as you can  .

[ns.Believe.It]

QUESTION: Which was the most illogical and dumbest argument that you have heard from NH/SS fandoms?

 

For me, its their claims of Naruto having gotten over his 'childish crush' on Sakura.

Edited by ns.Believe.It, 29 July 2014 - 12:23 PM.

[Gravenimage]

nsBelieveit@ drop your question because it will only lead to bashing. Let's stay on topic.

[ns.Believe.It]

nsBelieveit@ drop your question because it will only lead to bashing. Let's stay on topic.

You are too strict 

[FireFox]

QUESTION: Which was the most illogical and dumbest argument that you have heard from NH/SS fandoms?

 

For me, its their claims of Naruto having gotten over his 'childish crush' on Sakura.

For me is this one : I ship SS not bc of Sakura's feelings for Sasuke but bc of Sasuke's feelings for her     

[ns.Believe.It]

For me is this one : I ship SS not bc of Sakura's feelings for Sasuke but bc of Sasuke's feelings for her     

Oh wow, people actually say this?   Their holy grail must be that 'heh' comment from Sasuke in 632 

[luffyq1]

QUESTION: Which was the most illogical and dumbest argument that you have heard from NH/SS fandoms?

 

For me, its their claims of Naruto having gotten over his 'childish crush' on Sakura.

"Why have Hinata & Sakura hold on to their love for this long?"

 

They love to conveniently ignore Naruto's feelings, it's makes their argument easier.

[ns.Believe.It]

"Why have Hinata & Sakura hold on to their love for this long?"

 

They love to conveniently ignore Naruto's feelings, it's makes their argument easier.

Yeah, This is definitely one of the worst ones I've ever heard.

Hinata DESERVES Naruto's love. 

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Bc Kishi is dragging it  those cut of scenes are there for a reason its a writing technique it doesn't make sense by your standards which I have to say when it comes to NS are pretty much f**cked up , and we discussed this not to long ago Sai saying Naruto loves her is not the same as Naruto and its not explaining his feelings for her the reason behind it and its is foreshadowed whether you like it or not Naruto is bound to do a confession she needs to hear what Naruto thinks of her and take her insecurities . Also Naruto wasn't dead there was still hope if there wasn't then you would be right and for all we know she might have already realized it but Kishi is hiding that for obvious reasons  so I suggest before taking anything as a "fact" to wait and see how this goes down .

"Kishimoto dragging it" isnt a valid excuse Kishimoto is dragging it but looking at those scene i dont think a realization is the route i think falling in love is the correct one, if the route was "realization" NS would surely be canon.

About "foreshadowing that Naruto will do a confession" it's also there's foreshadowing he wont do either, Obito's personality, the constant focus on Sakura's feelings while not even focusing on Naruto's feelings, Naruto backing off his feelings whenever he feels that she still loves Sasuke, tell me that Sakura is the one who will approach Naruot not the inverse.
It doenst make sense since Sakura's main role is to move the romance subplot.

rant

Don't really get how Yamato's unfinished sentence can be deemed as "complicated". It was really obvious what Kishi was implying.
Also remember that you have to take into account the things that happened and were said  before Yamato's unfinished sentence and not just Yamato's unfinished sentence alone.
 
(i would post the manga pages but i don't know how to do that so i'll just type what happened to make it clear what i'm trying to say)
 
Naruto turning Kyuubi, Sakura watching, Kabuto talking about how sad it was but doing it in an annoying laughing,pitying undertone, Sakura clutching her chest ( emotional heartache ), tears pouring down her face, Sakura getting flashbacks of Naruto, (the POAL he made to her and Naruto's ninja'way) , Sakura frantically running at Naruto urging him to stop, saying she'll save Sasuke for him, Sakura left arm gets badly hurt,
Sakura is trying to heal Naruto while she's clearly in pain,
(she even makes a sound out of the pain and the panel directly after shows Yamato noticed Sakura was in pain but still put Naruto before herself
(Kishi wanted to make it clear to the reader that Yamato saw that),
 she asks Yamato if he can teach her the technique to subduing the kyuubi (again evidence of Sakura's selfless desire to help Naruto), after Yamato reveals it's impossible to learn that technique we see 2 panels of Sakura's face focusing on her eyes (looking downwards at Naruto, looking sad and depressed, Sakura says "same as always, i can only do the dumbest of things for Naruto",
 
next panel focuses on Yamato's eyes. Next is a panel that focuses on Sakura's badly hurt arm ( Kishi's telling us Yamato's looking at her arm), Yamato then says " It's not what you do for Naruto that's important. It's how strongly you feel about him that counts",
Sakura looks shellshocked, (Yamato notices this too), He makes the "hmph" sound and smiles a bit smug like "you really didn't realize it yourself ?" , Yamato wants to elaborate on his sentence and says "Sakura, i can tell just by looking at you, the truth is you ...", Naruto wakes up 2 seconds to early, Baka Naruto !  (Ofcourse this is done because Kishi can't have Yamato finish his sentence. The moment he confirms that Sakura loves Naruto the pairing war is over)
 
 
Sorry but i just don't see how you can look at this and consider all of this as "just a tease". Teases are moments that look romantic at first sight until you take a closer look and realize that there was nothing romantic about the moment. Hinata holding hands with Naruto was a tease, Sasuke catching Sakura when she was falling was a tease. There is a distinct difference in effort put into the scene i described and that of  Hinata's handholding or Sasuke's catching Sakura scene.
 
Imo that scene was one of the best NS moment as it perfectly showcased Sakura's selflessness towards Naruto.

What i'm saying is that despite all that it didnt changed her relation with Naruto, it didnt give her development, it didnt helped her ot overcome her self depreciating thoughts and etc...
So it worked more like a tease since it lead to nowhere.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 29 July 2014 - 02:15 PM.

[FireFox]

"Kishimoto dragging it" isnt a valid excuse Kishimoto is dragging it but looking at those scene i dont think a realization is the route i think falling in love is the correct one, if the route was "realization" NS would surely be canon.

About "foreshadowing that Naruto will do a confession" it's also there's foreshadowing he wont do either, Obito's personality, the constant focus on Sakura's feelings while not even focusing on Naruto's feelings, Naruto backing off his feelings whenever he feels that she still loves Sasuke, tell me that Sakura is the one who will approach Naruot not the inverse.
It doenst make sense since Sakura's main role is to move the romance subplot.

Many authors drag the Romance Subplot till the end so yes it is a valid excuse ,  its your own  view of those scenes that makes you think that there is no realization despite ignoring what those cut of scenes means what Authorial Intent & Interruption means like I said its a common writing technique  that's used for hiding something which is obvious not to mention the DB that even they say that Sakura can't figure out how she feels about him . The problem is you treat everything that Sakura shows toward Naruto as "platonic" if that was the case then there is no need of cut of scenes or Third Parties commentaries suggesting that she feels something more then that .  

What you are saying completely destroys the Romance subplot and means there never was one if Sakura was just supposed to fall in love in the end and by what is shown in the manga doesn't support this notion .

 

Lol that's not a foreshadowing what you are suggesting  goes against you bc Naruto supposed to surpass Obito where he failed that is the theme of the manga its like you are ignoring the whole story and its purpose and we have reason why Naruto doesn't make a move yet bc he feels unworthy but this is where the having no regrets comes also why are you constantly ignoring this ?  And since when Sakura doing the first move doesn't mean that Naruto is not gonna confess also ? There is no such rule there is more focus on that he's gonna do it eventually then he wont he wants do that he said it himself he's not living in P1 anymore .     

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 29 July 2014 - 03:37 PM.

[六道仙人]

parallel about WHAT? regarding the cover of vol 70? LOL

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Many authors drag the Romance Subplot till the end so yes it is a valid excuse ,  its your own  view of those scenes that makes you think that there is no realization despite ignoring what those cut of scenes means what Authorial Intent & Interruption means like I said its a common writing technique  that's used for hiding something which is obvious not to mention the DB that even they say that Sakura can't figure out how she feels about him . The problem is you treat everything that Sakura shows toward Naruto as "platonic" if that was the case then there is no need of cut of scenes or Third Parties commentaries suggesting that she feels something more then that .

Dragging is one thing, dragging and removing scenarios are another stuff, there's mangas that keep dragging on the romance subplot but doesnt do like Kishimoto, he basically destroyed the whole "realization" thng and if it happens it's a massive plot hole on the story because it wont make sense.

What you are saying completely destroys the Romance subplot and means there never was one if Sakura was just supposed to fall in love in the end and by what is shown in the manga doesn't support this notion .

You dont support this notion but still demands development, if Sakura just needs to realize that Sakura's in love with Naruto then NS doesnt need development because on this arc the only development NS got was parallels and nothing else, that leads me to think that there's still development to come from and since the NS fandom cling too much on MK parallel you can just pick up the elements of it and insert on NS and you'll clearly see something missing on NS development for Sakura to fall in love with Naruto which is the solely reason that Naruto hasn't changed her.
 

Lol that's not a foreshadowing what you are suggesting  goes against you bc Naruto supposed to surpass Obito where he failed that is the theme of the manga its like you are ignoring the whole story and its purpose and we have reason why Naruto doesn't make a move yet bc he feels unworthy but this is where the having no regrets comes also why are you constantly ignoring this ?  And since when Sakura doing the first move doesn't mean that Naruto is not gonna confess also ? There is no such rule there is more focus on that he's gonna do it eventually then he wont he wants do that

Obito didnt canceled his confession because he felt unworthy he canceled it because he respected her feelings, Naruto still believes she loves Sasuke until it's proven otherwise.

he said it himself he's not living in P1 anymore .

Then wtf he still calls Sasuke his "best friend" if their only positive interactions was on P1.
Naruto is full inconsistences.

[luffyq1]

New chapter tomorrow?