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Sasuke's crimes aren't big enough to be forgiven? What? He helped start the war, he attacked the 5 Kage, he murdered dozens of samurai, he joined a terrorist organization, attacked a foreign nation, and he tried to slaughter the 5 Kage and take over the world. Killing those samurai is just as bad as killing anyone else in the series. Sasuke deserves zero levity for his crimes.

Edit: Just to put this in perspective, Sasuke had an active hand in reviving the Juubi. Everyone that died in the war because of the Juubi, Sasuke holds partial blame for their deaths. He killed Neji just as much as Obito did. Sasuke is partially responsible for tens of thousands of deaths.

@WhyDoIWatch: I get that you like the Sasuke character and laid out every excuse there is for him. The biggest thing with me is that Sasuke no matter how tragic his past was, made the choices that turned him into the thing he swore to avenge. A murderer! Like AHK noted he killed samurai that he had zero affiliation with. They just happened to be in his way. If any of those samurai had children is it okay for them to seek out Sasuke and try to kill him or anyone else that gets in their way? Murder is unforgivable. Plain and simple. There's an old saying "before one embarks on the path of vengeance, be sure to dig two graves." That should have been what happened to Sasuke.

I dont understand why some people think sasuke crime is not big enough to be sentence to death. His family and clan was slaughtered and killed by konoha high ops but what did he do? he plan on killing all konoha citizen. That is beyond crazy , killing high ops/elder who responsible is totally ok but killing everyone in the vilage?. What he do is just spreading chain of hate. He wants to kill gokage just so he can establish his new system and ideology. He thinks want he wants is more important than peoples life. Thats just insane this guys is physco and abusive. Sasuke should have died there is just no positive reason for him to stay alive.

It just seems like Kishi never kept up with his own story. He writes down a new idea for it and is now going back periodically to see if it actually fits in there somehow. I'm starting think the most common phrase heard in his studio is "kitten, now how am I gonna explain this." 

I think he is not prepared. You know the feeling when you think you can do something but when you actualy do it is not as easy as you thought. His dream is to become mangaka he think it will be easy, and in reality he shock , theres alot preasure from SP and SJ and the fans [NH/SS] , popularity issue, deadline. He is not prepared to deal with all of this and in the end he is mindbroke or sold out.

 

Ha! That Seasick autocorrect is awesome! Completely agree - Naruto and Sasuke were never ever shown as bffs, only rivals. And Sasuke was never truly shown with redeeming qualities toward his team until he was bit by Orochimaru and saved Naruto and Sakura. That's it. Yes and the retcon does more damage than anything. 

 

In fact, all Kishi's retcons are based on his hope that no one will ever go back and read his stories again. Because then you'd see what a bunch of BS it is now! 

 

 

Yes, so right. It was all filler for the movie. It's so painfully clear now. I can't even go back and look at any of those manga pages cause I know it's all a lie.

 

 

So true. If they were going to retcon anything it would be to insert some bonding scenes like he did with Sasuke and Itachi, giving Naruto and Sasuke time to get along together. But it didn't happen. And so Naruto's obsession with Sasuke just makes Naruto look bad in the end. Not heroic, but weak and blinded by some feeling of friendship that was never there to begin with.

I think whoever write or comes with this idea want to teach us that we should always forgive anyone who hurt us physically and mentally. They dont realise we are human capable of terrible things we are not pure like god who can just forgive anyone. Sasuke cannot and should never be redeem because thats what makes him what he is and avenger. If he reedem you take away 75% of what he is , what make him "Sasuke". They dont understand sometimes the only cure for bad guys is Death. EVEN sasuke brother Uchiha Itachi said it himself, "You never knew/know what kind of person you are until you are about to die" to Kisame. Sasuke should have died and ended uchiha curse and become hero. If he lived another madara will eventualy spawn and war will happen again.