I am so glad I watched a NS Video before I got into Naruto.
I am glad naruto was not my first anime, and that I have mild autism, and could understand writing at 5 years old from reading so much at the library xD
Posted 14 September 2015 - 02:06 AM
I am so glad I watched a NS Video before I got into Naruto.
I am glad naruto was not my first anime, and that I have mild autism, and could understand writing at 5 years old from reading so much at the library xD
Posted 14 September 2015 - 10:04 AM
The thing is that the scene where she vowed to follow Sasuke in part 1 while cringeworthy could be a stage for her to develop, Sakura there was still a child after all
In the beginning of part 2 Sakura showed herself to be a capable kunoichi and there was no mention of this love subplot, however after Pein arc, Kishi ended up screwing up by taking Sakura back to her Sakura to her part 1 mistakes
And when I talk about Hinata being loved due to being a submissive moe blob I'm not necessaruly talking about the typical anime community, I'm talking about Naruto community specifically, which is made out of a lot of casual fans who only watch and praise Naruto as the ultimate anime
Besides even in the anime community, there is the segment that likes to "waifu" these typical moe blob characters, the Naruto fandom is full of these type of people
The Hokage oneshot shows naruto sleeps on the couch of his own home
The Burrito movie shows naruto can't even make time to appear on his daughter birthday for some reason even though he is awfully fast and is living in the same villageThe Burrito movie shows Hinata and Himawari not happy with their situation and genuinely sadThe Burrito movie shows Naruto congratulating his son passing through the chuunin exam through e-mailsYep, great find HinataHonestly there's no other way to put it, naruto used to be a good guy and I don't think anyone in the fandom ever thought he would become such a bad husband and father but alas, Kishi needed to completely change the character in order to self insert as him
Yeah you got that right I mean True that Kojima does it but he puts him self in the game and not as Big Boss or snake it just shows Kishi never should have been a writer at all that Naruto should of had someone better than Kishi, while its true other writers have put them self in the manga its only little thing like a camo or a them self on money.
Kishi nope he had to put himself as Naruto why cause Kishi sucks at doing a story.
Posted 14 September 2015 - 12:07 PM
pitied side-character, fan-favourite because of body proportions
stop asking questions that are already answered, seriously, those threads are stupid and they create nothing but passive hate towards this series
Posted 14 September 2015 - 07:06 PM
pitied side-character, fan-favourite because of body proportions
stop asking questions that are already answered, seriously, those threads are stupid and they create nothing but passive hate towards this series
Sadly that is something none of us can do I mean Kishi and SP keep saying kitten that makes no sense since that can't and they never will admit they kittened up.
SP we know will never say anything since they love Hinata so damn much.
Kishi, well he is sitting on hisw big stack of money laughing at the readers.
Posted 14 September 2015 - 07:12 PM
pitied side-character, fan-favourite because of body proportions
stop asking questions that are already answered, seriously, those threads are stupid and they create nothing but passive hate towards this series
I wish there was stuff to do talk about in the Naruto series that was still good, but the "ending" and everything that followed destroyed literally anything positive this story had to offer.
All that's left is to point out what went wrong, and Hinata's popularity is one of the things that led to the series' destruction.
Posted 14 September 2015 - 07:46 PM
There's never a definitive I'm given as to why someone is a Hinata "fan"... a majority state she's relate-able, a lot give the clique response of her "beauty, kindness, and personality", but it always comes down to stating she deserves to be with Naruto and that he should love her for her looks and because she's never "mean" to him. Yeah, that pretty much sums it up, her fanbase is as shallow as she is and they require us to pity them the way Naruto pities Hinata. But I guess that's true love, because nothing bad ever happens from getting married to a person who has no idea who you really are outside of a small sample of past events and your name
I wish there was stuff to do talk about in the Naruto series that was still good, but the "ending" and everything that followed destroyed literally anything positive this story had to offer.
All that's left is to point out what went wrong, and Hinata's popularity is one of the things that led to the series' destruction.
Well we could talk about the positive aspects if we completely throw out anything related to the ending... at least there's still some morals even if we get the "Obito's the coolest guy I know" even though not all too long ago he was willing to kill everything you knew and loved as well as actually killed quite a number of people, including... well, yeah you know, I know, everyone knows who got killed : /
Posted 14 September 2015 - 08:21 PM
Think it from another perspective; the hyuga are a rich clan, deeply enrooted in konoha's hierarchy. It would only be a strategical decision to marry the heir apparent of the most powerful clan in the village since kishimoto couldn't develop the uzumaki, sarutobi, hatake and many more clans since his range of view regarding story-telling is limited to two and a half main characters, with the side-dishes coming up and running after 650 chapters of zero resolution and barely any significant showing of character development (except shikamaru). Everything else was done off-the-spotlight, retconned and put there just to be.
Let's get real; it's been long since we ever cared about storyline, the characters were what kept us reading and watching this mangaka and its anime adaptation.
Posted 15 September 2015 - 12:52 AM
It makes you wonder if Hinata was ever truly the "shy" or "submissive" girl she portrayed herself as, or if it was all an extremely complex, long-term political ploy by the Hyuga Clan, including Hinata, while Hanabi and Neji were just lucky coincidences for it, in order to get Hinata with Naruto and, ultimately, have high influence through Hinata being married to Naruto. Maybe that's why Naruto is so tired, despite all the previous power and such - he's constantly being used (and "used") by Hinata and the Hyuga Clan.
Posted 15 September 2015 - 01:46 AM
It's her characterful be a shy and submissive girl.It makes you wonder if Hinata was ever truly the "shy" or "submissive" girl she portrayed herself as, or if it was all an extremely complex, long-term political ploy by the Hyuga Clan, including Hinata, while Hanabi and Neji were just lucky coincidences for it, in order to get Hinata with Naruto and, ultimately, have high influence through Hinata being married to Naruto. Maybe that's why Naruto is so tired, despite all the previous power and such - he's constantly being used (and "used") by Hinata and the Hyuga Clan.
Edited by rocci, 15 September 2015 - 01:47 AM.
Posted 15 September 2015 - 03:51 AM
It's her characterful be a shy and submissive girl.
Persona 5 hype
Posted 15 September 2015 - 04:48 AM
It's her characterful be a shy and submissive girl.
I was mostly joking, but given the way things have gone, I'd say it's just as possible as almost anything else people can think of.
Posted 24 September 2015 - 11:53 AM
It's simple. Waifu. Fantasy. That is all.
Edited by Phantom_999, 25 September 2015 - 05:34 PM.
Posted 24 September 2015 - 12:47 PM
It makes you wonder if Hinata was ever truly the "shy" or "submissive" girl she portrayed herself as, or if it was all an extremely complex, long-term political ploy by the Hyuga Clan, including Hinata, while Hanabi and Neji were just lucky coincidences for it, in order to get Hinata with Naruto and, ultimately, have high influence through Hinata being married to Naruto. Maybe that's why Naruto is so tired, despite all the previous power and such - he's constantly being used (and "used") by Hinata and the Hyuga Clan.
It would be such a better story if this were true. And going by the way the Hyuuga clan treats threats from outside of their clan (deciding the twin brother should kill himself to even the score with Kumo) and threats from within their clan (forcing lower branch members to permanently limit their powers so they won't overpower the main family), the manipulative, positioning, strictly heirarchical clan should have been plotting away at how to "broker" Hinata's marriage into a powerful boost for the clan. And they couldn't have set their sets any higher than Naruto.
Posted 24 September 2015 - 11:16 PM
It would be such a better story if this were true. And going by the way the Hyuuga clan treats threats from outside of their clan (deciding the twin brother should kill himself to even the score with Kumo) and threats from within their clan (forcing lower branch members to permanently limit their powers so they won't overpower the main family), the manipulative, positioning, strictly heirarchical clan should have been plotting away at how to "broker" Hinata's marriage into a powerful boost for the clan. And they couldn't have set their sets any higher than Naruto.
Posted 25 September 2015 - 12:12 AM
But then why would a clan so protective of itself want a guy who openly stated he would change the way things ran. The Naruto who doesn't suck is that clans worst nightmare. In fact, even if Cable Naruto (as opposed to Direct TV Naruto) is the one that married in, what an utter failure he'd be if he no change to how it ran. It just whizzes all over his character, although he's been whizzed on so many times he probably cannot tell the difference between that and lemonade.
Although, the manga implies Hiashia already did though the results of this are never seen and the manga skirts by when it kills Neji.
Naruto may have wished for change, but that's all it is - wishing for it. He clearly had no idea how to actually go about doing it, seeming to naively think that it would just happen if he wanted it badly enough. He clearly has no idea how the politics works in the world (even if the system changed, which it clearly wasn't, the politics would still be there, and in either case, he'd still only know them from within the narrow point of view of Konoha, not the "shinobi world" in general) and the Hyuga Clan, who would no doubt be very involved in such politics, both within their own Clan and in the hierarchy of the village, would run circles around him easily unless he got very educated on the subject. And if Naruto were to just keep denying them...just because...they could probably get others together to make a case to have him removed from his position as Hokage somehow.
We don't really see much view from other Kages, but with Tsunade at least, we got a small glimpse of things when we saw how she was nearly reduced to a figurehead and that ones like Danzo, Homura, and Koharu were the ones really calling the shots (until things got desperate when Pein was attacking and Tsunade finally put her own foot down).
Posted 25 September 2015 - 12:54 AM
I don't think that was the case, Naruto wouldn't be an incompetent politician. The manga is just too simple, for Kishi it was enough to say don't give up because the series was never going to be about corruption, but about how things get better if you work hard enough, even if you're in a bad place. imo the whole system thing that was decided later on, but he didn't know how to write the solutions. Thus he just kept repeating the same thing, don't give up. Such a message does not fit the theme. Kishi should've never brought up the issues if he did not know how to end it. he was always very good at that.Naruto may have wished for change, but that's all it is - wishing for it. He clearly had no idea how to actually go about doing it, seeming to naively think that it would just happen if he wanted it badly enough. He clearly has no idea how the politics works in the world (even if the system changed, which it clearly wasn't, the politics would still be there, and in either case, he'd still only know them from within the narrow point of view of Konoha, not the "shinobi world" in general) and the Hyuga Clan, who would no doubt be very involved in such politics, both within their own Clan and in the hierarchy of the village, would run circles around him easily unless he got very educated on the subject. And if Naruto were to just keep denying them...just because...they could probably get others together to make a case to have him removed from his position as Hokage somehow.
We don't really see much view from other Kages, but with Tsunade at least, we got a small glimpse of things when we saw how she was nearly reduced to a figurehead and that ones like Danzo, Homura, and Koharu were the ones really calling the shots (until things got desperate when Pein was attacking and Tsunade finally put her own foot down).
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Posted 25 September 2015 - 04:23 PM
Naruto may have wished for change, but that's all it is - wishing for it. He clearly had no idea how to actually go about doing it, seeming to naively think that it would just happen if he wanted it badly enough. He clearly has no idea how the politics works in the world (even if the system changed, which it clearly wasn't, the politics would still be there, and in either case, he'd still only know them from within the narrow point of view of Konoha, not the "shinobi world" in general) and the Hyuga Clan, who would no doubt be very involved in such politics, both within their own Clan and in the hierarchy of the village, would run circles around him easily unless he got very educated on the subject. And if Naruto were to just keep denying them...just because...they could probably get others together to make a case to have him removed from his position as Hokage somehow.
We don't really see much view from other Kages, but with Tsunade at least, we got a small glimpse of things when we saw how she was nearly reduced to a figurehead and that ones like Danzo, Homura, and Koharu were the ones really calling the shots (until things got desperate when Pein was attacking and Tsunade finally put her own foot down).
Posted 26 September 2015 - 07:34 PM
But then why would a clan so protective of itself want a guy who openly stated he would change the way things ran. The Naruto who doesn't suck is that clans worst nightmare. In fact, even if Cable Naruto (as opposed to Direct TV Naruto) is the one that married in, what an utter failure he'd be if he no change to how it ran. It just whizzes all over his character, although he's been whizzed on so many times he probably cannot tell the difference between that and lemonade.
Although, the manga implies Hiashia already did though the results of this are never seen and the manga skirts by when it kills Neji.
Naruto:Hi I'm your Hokage Naruto Uzumaki and I have DirectTV.
Narudo:And I am Narudo Uzumaki and I have Cable.
Naruto:With DirectTV I can watch any of my favorite shows from my Hokage office to my own home with my wife Sakura.
Narudo: I don't have those any cable boxes but I do beat my son alot.
Naruto:With DirectTV I can also watch any NFL game anytime I want.
Narudo: My favorite team is not on so I neglect my family to hang out with my friend Sasuke.
Naruto: Don't be like this me. Get rid of cable and order DirectTV.
Posted 27 September 2015 - 12:02 AM
Hinata got popular cause she's totally different from all the girl characters. For once she's not a girl who cares about her appearance, and/or impressing Sasuke. She's way kind and sweet, and cares about people for more than just their appearance. She's a nice character, the only girl who had a crush on Naruto, and believed in him from the beginning. I mean, sure she did nothing to him or for him since it was all internal, but it shows a lot about what kind of character she is.
Her development isn't that great, but for the mostpart she didn't need much development as a person. She was kind and genuine from the start. And she always tried her best to improve herself whether or not the inspiration came from Naruto. Honestly all the girls in Naruto have great goals and personalities, but Hinata's just different.
She's more calmer and peaceful, while most of the other girls were more boisterous and out there. Hinata stands out in a different way - in my opinion, it's very likable. Sure she has stuttering issues, and sometimes is a little too quiet or shy... But it's a lot harder to become more louder and firm, when you're naturally just... a tad bit shy. It's much easier for people who are loud and wild to calm themselves and have their silent moments. But the other way around is harder. That's why whenever Hinata does do something to stand up for others (it's rarely ever herself), it's something that people can be proud of her for. It's something that others could possibly relate to too, in the same way Naruto inspires others as well.
That's why (imo) Hinata's popular. However I don't particularly like the way they made her popular in the end. Naruto and Hinata have like zero chemistry... and there's more to Hinata's character than just having a little internal crush on Naruto.
Edited by Iwantbuns, 27 September 2015 - 12:04 AM.
Why do people NOT ship these two? I just don't get it.
Probably cause they hate Sakura. When she's probably the most developed female character in the whole show.
I respect Hinata, but Sakura deserves some too.
Posted 27 September 2015 - 12:31 AM
Hinata got popular cause she's totally different from all the girl characters. For once she's not a girl who cares about her appearance, and/or impressing Sasuke. She's way kind and sweet, and cares about people for more than just their appearance. She's a nice character, the only girl who had a crush on Naruto, and believed in him from the beginning. I mean, sure she did nothing to him or for him since it was all internal, but it shows a lot about what kind of character she is.
Her development isn't that great, but for the mostpart she didn't need much development as a person. She was kind and genuine from the start. And she always tried her best to improve herself whether or not the inspiration came from Naruto. Honestly all the girls in Naruto have great goals and personalities, but Hinata's just different.
She's more calmer and peaceful, while most of the other girls were more boisterous and out there. Hinata stands out in a different way - in my opinion, it's very likable. Sure she has stuttering issues, and sometimes is a little too quiet or shy... But it's a lot harder to become more louder and firm, when you're naturally just... a tad bit shy. It's much easier for people who are loud and wild to calm themselves and have their silent moments. But the other way around is harder. That's why whenever Hinata does do something to stand up for others (it's rarely ever herself), it's something that people can be proud of her for. It's something that others could possibly relate to too, in the same way Naruto inspires others as well.
That's why (imo) Hinata's popular. However I don't particularly like the way they made her popular in the end. Naruto and Hinata have like zero chemistry... and there's more to Hinata's character than just having a little internal crush on Naruto.
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