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[Gojira]

Either during the exams or the Sasuke and Sai arc.

Is this referring to how she was trying to tell KN4 Naruto that she would rescue Sasuke for him?

[Otaru]

Is this referring to how she was trying to tell KN4 Naruto that she would rescue Sasuke for him?

 

She never said that.

She just said that she would take care of Sasuke, and she said to Naruto to stop it.

That's all.

Edited by Otaru, 25 May 2014 - 03:17 PM.

[咲耶姫]

Is this referring to how she was trying to tell KN4 Naruto that she would rescue Sasuke for him?

Well, in the raw she doesn't say she will save Sasuke for him. She just says " It's okay! I will save Sasuke-kun!"

 

 

サスケ君は私が助け出してみせる! "Sasuke-kun, I will save him!"

Since I don't really know how to explain the meaning of みせる I'm gonna put a link that explains it. 

http://www.jgram.org...php?tagE=miseru

Edited by 咲耶姫, 25 May 2014 - 03:33 PM.

[FireFox]

 

She never said that.

She just said that she would take care of Sasuke, and she said to Naruto to stop it.

That's all.

Here words and the nature of that scene are implying that does it really matter if she didn't said that directly ? The purpose of that scene was for Naruto to stop doing this to himself because he's hurting himself and she didn't want that so she said she's gonna do it so he doesn't have to which means she's gonna do it for him . Why are we downplaying this ? 

[咲耶姫]

Here words and the nature of that scene are implying that does it really matter if she didn't said that directly ? The purpose of that scene was for Naruto to stop doing this to himself because he's hurting himself and she didn't want that so she said she's gonna do it so he doesn't have to which means she's gonna do it for him . Why are we downplaying this ? 

I agree, even if she doesn't say it, it is imply that, at the moment she's saying this, she mean that she's determined to save Sasuke so he will stop hurting himself. No one is downplaying this scene here. 

[TouKen4Life3g]

Since this is among my favorite moment, I don't recall even bringing that line in my LAP. It's all about what Sakura don't want Naruto to do anymore. If she has to do it alone to save Sasuke, so be it, just as long as Naruto don't go in there get hurt anymore. Speaks loud volume.

If you try to downplay, surely, you're out of challenges to the point we feel like "Man...it's boring." It's like when a big cooperation beat its challenge, it only leaves thinking "Now what's my motivation..."

[narusaku256]

Here words and the nature of that scene are implying that does it really matter if she didn't said that directly ? The purpose of that scene was for Naruto to stop doing this to himself because he's hurting himself and she didn't want that so she said she's gonna do it so he doesn't have to which means she's gonna do it for him . Why are we downplaying this ? 

This. Thou art the man 'Firefox-kun' XDDDDD

[Psychox]

I hate to be the opposition but i think it's going to be a LAP.
First off things arent black and white and Sakura's feelings either if they are still romantic or not, i dont think they are immature anymore.
I remember when i said that Sakura tried to leave Naruto behind during her confession for Sasuke the argument that she was 12 years old and could not be judged because of this, if it's that so the argument here would be the same, Sakura was a girl and it was normal for her to be immature and she was immature on other moments too like the POAL and etc...
 

Oh, so that means that her feelings of caring deeply for Sasuke aren't romantic ,but somehow are more mature than that. What does that mean? Maybe it means that she went from full on in love with him to a universal worshiping of him or something like that. I can't comprehend what you're trying to explain here,mate. 

 

What Sakura did was for herself , not Sasuke and not Naruto ,  each and every  word of her confession screamed  of it . It was all done for herself and nobody else . If memory serves me well , Sakura asked Naruto to bring Sasuke to the village not in her embrace . Now , this could be easily twisted into believing that after Naruto drags Sasuke's ass back to the village she'll have another shot ,but that's speculation and it remained untouched , so we can't make any assumptions on what it is without having any proof whatsoever . Don't dwell in the was ,mate .

 

 

 

Now here comes the second part the "Nature of Sakura's feelings", Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are questionable currently if they are still on romantic nature, during various moments like the confession when she tried to kill Sasuke and when she still wanted to save Sasuke from darkness those alone already indicate that her love for Sasuke are not selfish anymore but however, nothing indicates that the nature of her feelings for Sasuke are still romantic.

 

If we are to believe what Sai said - which many people do ,that she went to kill him because she loves him so much , then her intention was anything but selfless,because he said,she wanted to remember and cherish the old Sasuke ,in other words, she was allegedly doing it for herself. Well no, that's not how it is.

 

 

As for her feelings for Naruto, it's certain they arent romantic in nature, as it was indicated on the confession when it was proved that "she loving Naruto romantically" was proved to be false, and her thoughts about Naruto doesnt indicated romance, like as an example during the CPR on which if it was to indicate romantic feelings the correct flashbacks were to be her moments wiht Naruto not something about hokage.
On which pass the indicative that her love is nothing of romantic yet.
As for "puts Naruto before anything at any cost regardless of whether she will be alone, she shows signs of a deep love".
It's no different than the love Neji, Kushina, Tsunade and other characters showed towards Naruto, excluding Hinata because it was shown to be of romantic nature "if it's stronger or weaker" not the point of this post and that never showed her cherishing Naruto's goals.

 

 

 

Why is this thing always brought up, her alleged fake confession? Oh?During her confession we got in her head and you saw how it was proven to be false and that there were no romantic inclinations ? She wants to make Naruto happy by fulfilling his wildest and most craved  dream and did what she could to keep him alive till the plot kicked in and Minato transferred the other part of Kurama in him.  That's what we call selfless feeling ,because she wants to see him alive,well,smiling and satisfied. More than that in love you can't ask.

Yeah, if it's concerning Hinata it's 100% romance cause her feelings aren't that obvious ambiguous as Sakura's .

 

As to finish, i dont think Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are selfish because if it remained as it is, there's no explanation about why she wants to save Sasuke or even wanting to kill him, regardless the questionable fact is that if it's still of romantic nature or not and as for Naruto, they arent of romantic nature because Sakura didnt give hints it might be that.

 

Yeah, because this down here means a complete void.

[Gojira]

Here words and the nature of that scene are implying that does it really matter if she didn't said that directly ? The purpose of that scene was for Naruto to stop doing this to himself because he's hurting himself and she didn't want that so she said she's gonna do it so he doesn't have to which means she's gonna do it for him . Why are we downplaying this ?

At any rate I'm having trouble seeing how some count this as a moment of her favoring Naruto over Sasuke. Yeah I get with Naruto not there it lowers their chances slightly but that seems more like her determination to keep both of them safe more than anything.

Although I do recall later afterwards she considered cancelling the mission to keep Naruto out of harm's way or something since he still hadn't made a full recovery.

[narusaku256]

Okay, so on a serious note, I am seriously sick of this now. Same things brought up again and again with all the interpretations leading to the same outcome. If we as NS fans are to doubt every NS moment, our fandom is done for. We have all the odds on our side, evidence, development, A CPR, parallels every little aspect on our side and yet, we doubt it. NH and SS fandoms have nothing to cling on and still they have faith in their pairings. Aren't we the better one's in the pairing scenario? I seriously think we should stop debating about the moments because every NS scene turns out to ambiguous when it really isn't. If we cannot believe in our pairing, who else will?

On a side note, I now really really wish Kishi portrays Sakura herself getting out from Sasuke and a statement from herself that 'She is out of Sasuke now', no ambiguity and confusing stuff. Enough with the third party opinions on Sakura's feelings. Seriously, I think it is already a high time now and enough with ambiguity. Things really seem to go out of hand now.

Edited by narusaku256, 25 May 2014 - 05:45 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Oh, so that means that her feelings of caring deeply for Sasuke aren't romantic ,but somehow are more mature than that. What does that mean? Maybe it means that she went from full on in love with him to a universal worshiping of him or something like that. I can't comprehend what you're trying to explain here,mate.

Like i said, her caring deeply for Sasuke and with the current indicatives, doesnt show that she her nature of her feelings for Sasuke are romantic but they're not selfish anymore.
 

What Sakura did was for herself , not Sasuke and not Naruto ,  each and every  word of her confession screamed  of it . It was all done for herself and nobody else . If memory serves me well , Sakura asked Naruto to bring Sasuke to the village not in her embrace . Now , this could be easily twisted into believing that after Naruto drags Sasuke's ass back to the village she'll have another shot ,but that's speculation and it remained untouched , so we can't make any assumptions on what it is without having any proof whatsoever . Don't dwell in the was ,mate .

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I'm not arguing her confession to Sasuke btw, i'm not denying that it was selfish, you probably read my post wrongly, she was selfish on the POAL, she was selfish on her confession, it's not a point to argue on here, what i'm saying is bringing it to compare and say "her love for Sasuke is selfish" and "her love for Naruto is selfless" are not valid parameteres since it changed during the course of the story, Sakura's feelings for Naruto didnt showed to be of romantic nature and currently arent different from the ones like Neji, Kushina, Tsunade and other character excluding Hinata because of the reasons posted above.
 
 

If we are to believe what Sai said - which many people do ,that she went to kill him because she loves him so much , then her intention was anything but selfless,because he said,she wanted to remember and cherish the old Sasuke ,in other words, she was allegedly doing it for herself. Well no, that's not how it is.

I'm not talking about Sai, i'm solely pointing out that she having the guts to kill Sasuke and later wanting to save Sasuke when it has nothing to do with the nature of her feelings for Sasuke.
Indicates that those feelings for Sasuke arent immature but doesnt show that her feelings for Sasuke are of romantic nature.
 

Why is this thing always brought up, her alleged fake confession? Oh?During her confession we got in her head and you saw how it was proven to be false and that there were no romantic inclinations ? She wants to make Naruto happy by fulfilling his wildest and most craved  dream and did what she could to keep him alive till the plot kicked in and Minato transferred the other part of Kurama in him.  That's what we call selfless feeling ,because she wants to see him alive,well,smiling and satisfied. More than that in love you can't ask.

That's basically what i'm saying, first off her confession, there were no romantic nature on that because she had other issues during the confession like wanting to bring Naruto back and to break the POAL, that alone shows that the purpose of the moment wasnt for Sakura to convey her feelings.
With Kishi showing indicatives that her feelings for Sasuke are still of romantic nature.
About the second part since you mixed the confession with saving Naruto during the war arc.
What she did that is no different than Neji, Kushina and others, and those are the same kind of love, Sakura has yet to show something different than that, which is obvious, that her feelings are of romantic nature, flashbacks tend much to tell about feelings and Sakura during that moment was focused on Naruto's desire to be hokage but not her own feelings for Naruto which is important.
Many people got disappointed with that moment because probably they expected Sakura to think about her moments with Naruto and not wanting to lose him rather than that, and being honest her thoughts focusing on his dream to be hokage when she was pratically dead was kind of weird to me.
 

Yeah, if it's concerning Hinata it's 100% romance cause her feelings aren't that obvious ambiguous as Sakura's .

Romance because she showed indicatives of wanting to be with Naruto romantically speaking off, her comment when she held Naruto hand, her claming she loves him during the pain arc and etc..
[Infatuation desires]
 

Yeah, because this down here means a complete void.

I dont see how this scene void my argument actually it enforces it, by saying that Sakura's feelings for Sasuke has changed which on my opinion is correct, they likely arent of romantic nature anymore and she's not selfish towards him.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 25 May 2014 - 05:51 PM.

[Psychox]

Like i said, her caring deeply for Sasuke and with the current indicatives, doesnt show that she her nature of her feelings for Sasuke are romantic but they're not selfish anymore.
 
 

This makes some sense.

 

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I'm not arguing her confession to Sasuke btw, i'm not denying that it was selfish, you probably read my post wrongly, she was selfish on the POAL, she was selfish on her confession, it's not a point to argue on here, what i'm saying is bringing it to compare and say "her love for Sasuke is selfish" and "her love for Naruto is selfless" are not valid parameteres since it changed during the course of the story, Sakura's feelings for Naruto didnt showed to be of romantic nature and currently arent different from the ones like Neji, Kushina, Tsunade and other character excluding Hinata because of the reasons posted above.
 

 

 

Did she say - '' Bring Sasuke back for me'' ? No. But to drag him back to the village and to save him from the path he choose . IF you want to think that she wanted that for herself and herself only ,be my guest . I can easily point out the KM4 accident where she yells that she's gonna bring him back for Naruto's sake. The parameters aren't analogical since from part 1 to present Sakura's shown nothing but selfless love for Naruto , for Sasuke however,  it was for her own needs. I doubt any of these characters have chemistry with the main character and blush at his appearance. That's not romance ,however it will contribute for a future possible relationship of romantic matter.  Because Hinata  fantasized about Naruto's hand or what? How can i not question that when her motives of loving Naruto are that he's a major fighter and doesn't give up . That's about it,and that's pure romance? I am missing on all the part where Naruto's whatever are involved and stuff like why else she finds him appealing .

 

 

I'm not talking about Sai, i'm solely pointing out that she having the guts to kill Sasuke and later wanting to save Sasuke when it has nothing to do with the nature of her feelings for Sasuke.
Indicates that those feelings for Sasuke aren't immature but doesn't show that her feelings for Sasuke are of romantic nature.

 

This is how you can confirm it ,right?Via his dialog. Or maybe via the Samurai bridge scene? Yes, otherwise we'll have a team 7 sandwich after the war.

 

 

That's basically what i'm saying, first off her confession, there were no romantic nature on that because she had other issues during the confession like wanting to bring Naruto back and to break the POAL, that alone shows that the purpose of the moment wasnt for Sakura to convey her feelings.
With Kishi showing indicatives that her feelings for Sasuke are still of romantic nature.
About the second part since you mixed the confession with saving Naruto during the war arc.
What she did that is no different than Neji, Kushina and others, and those are the same kind of love, Sakura has yet to show something different than that, which is obvious, that her feelings are of romantic nature, flashbacks tend much to tell about feelings and Sakura during that moment was focused on Naruto's desire to be hokage but not her own feelings for Naruto which is important.
Many people got disappointed with that moment because probably they expected Sakura to think about her moments with Naruto and not wanting to lose him rather than that, and being honest her thoughts focusing on his dream to be hokage when she was pratically dead was kind of weird to me.

 

She had to face her feelings for Naruto without figuring out what they were beforehand. She was trying to hide the truth of what is to be done with Sasuke, that doesn't mean that she lied and it most definitely doesn't imply that she loves Sasuke .And if you're talking about the the 540 scene ,it's pretty obvious that it's a contradiction with words and mental  image drawn.
 What do you want Sakura to do more? There's that, but in those circumstances she's fully centered on Naruto and won't let him die ,she puts her everything for him . What would've been a better image - she thinking of how she loves him and want to kiss him or maybe hold his big hand? In these situations you'll give the mud under your fingernails for the person you care who's apparently fading away by the second.

Romance because she showed indicatives of wanting to be with Naruto romantically speaking off, her comment when she held Naruto hand, her claming she loves him during the pain arc and etc..
[Infatuation desires]

Oh, okay, i didn't know you want Sakura to be like Hinata . Well, Sakura isn't her.
 
 

I dont see how this scene void my argument actually it enforces it, by saying that Sakura's feelings for Sasuke has changed which on my opinion is correct, they likely arent of romantic nature anymore and she's not selfish towards him.

 

Oei, enforces it ? Are you reading word by word or you just read ''has feelings'' ?  There's that duty,kindness that doesn't add up. That's just it, she doesn't  love him romantically ,but bears deep platonic feelings for him , just like you said  -''Neji,Kushina, etc.'' . Naruto has the same feelings for Sasuke, or you're trying to tell me that he has more than that?

[Shadow Wolf]

Basically, Darkrest's logic goes like this: if they don't say it, they don't feel it. So, the characters can show hints over and over again (deep care, smile, Yamato saying that Sakura may even hold more than friendship for Naruto even though the sentence was not finished, thus open for "interpretation" even though we all know where it was going, even blushing like Sakura did when she asked Naruto if she looked better at the beginning of part 2), and he will not accept it.

Edited by Shadow Wolf, 25 May 2014 - 07:33 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Did she say - '' Bring Sasuke back for me'' ? No. But to drag him back to the village and to save him from the path he choose . IF you want to think that she wanted that for herself and herself only ,be my guest . I can easily point out the KM4 accident where she yells that she's gonna bring him back for Naruto's sake. The parameters aren't analogical since from part 1 to present Sakura's shown nothing but selfless love for Naruto , for Sasuke however,  it was for her own needs. I doubt any of these characters have chemistry with the main character and blush at his appearance. That's not romance ,however it will contribute for a future possible relationship of romantic matter.  Because Hinata  fantasized about Naruto's hand or what? How can i not question that when her motives of loving Naruto are that he's a major fighter and doesn't give up . That's about it,and that's pure romance? I am missing on all the part where Naruto's whatever are involved and stuff like why else she finds him appealing .

it almost give that impression, before she was going to leave Naruto behind and later asks him to bring back, she cant be blamed but of scenarios are immature.
And it's shown that she was selfish on the poal when Sai tells her that Naruto loves her, that bought pain to him and she did that without thinking.
She passed her own burden to Naruto and he accepted it.
About KM4 doesnt connect with that scene but shows that it changed but is not an indicative off romantic thinking.
About Hinata once again, it's romantic desires but it's promptly infatuation which is a bad one, dont try to put Hinata and her thoughts into this to try to disprove my argument.
 
 

This is how you can confirm it ,right?Via his dialog. Or maybe via the Samurai bridge scene? Yes, otherwise we'll have a team 7 sandwich after the war.

Oh, okay, i didn't know you want Sakura to be like Hinata . Well, Sakura isn't her.

When Sakura is about to kill Sasuke via flashbacks, her thoughts about him before she reach Sasuke and also when Karin and Sakura has that empathy moment where each other understands that they love Sasuke without having to talk.

Trying to disprove my argument using things that doesnt address to my point?
This has nothing to do with my point, Sakura doesnt need to act like Hinata to show romance indicatives.
Like you say she's not Hinata.
 
 

Oei, enforces it ? Are you reading word by word or you just read ''has feelings'' ?  There's that duty,kindness that doesn't add up. That's just it, she doesn't  love him romantically ,but bears deep platonic feelings for him , just like you said  -''Neji,Kushina, etc.'' . Naruto has the same feelings for Sasuke, or you're trying to tell me that he has more than that?

Are you once again not being able to read my post?
i basically expressed that she has platonic feelings for Sasuke but wanting to save Sasuke is also part of her feelings and it is one of the things that make seem that those platonic feelings aren't selfish neither immature.
 

Basically, Darkrest's logic goes like this: if they don't say it, they don't feel it. So, the characters can show hints over and over again (deep care, smile, Yamato saying that Sakura may even hold more than friendship for Naruto even though the sentence was not finished, thus open for "interpretation" even though we all know where it was going, even blushing like Sakura did when she asked Naruto if she looked better at the beginning of part 2), and he will not accept it.

Okay so let's talk about my logic.

"Deep care, smile"
How this makes her love romantic in nature?

"Yamato saying that Sakura may even hold more than friendship"
Open to interpretation, he was trying to say that her feelings for Naruto are more important and then was going to point out that she loves Naruto but if it's romantic in nature that's the debatable part, i believe it's not since she evaluated her feelings for Naruto on the confession and it didnt reached that conclusion.

 

even blushing like Sakura did when she asked Naruto if she looked better at the beginning of part 2), and he will not accept it.

That only brings the fact that she viewed Naruto as a man and nothing else, if she had romantic feelings for him the scene doesnt indicated that since shortly he acts as an immature kid and later she says that "he's still the same" with an annoyed face.
The second time she views Naruto as a man is when Sai tells her that Naruto loves her.


@Psychox and Shadow Wolf.
I dont think logically the manga supports the conclusion you both support, i think that Sakura doesnt love Naruto romantically and will end up loving him that way close to the end, because it lacks development.
And as for the present she holds platonic feelings for both Naruto and Sasuke.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 25 May 2014 - 08:18 PM.

[James S Cassidy]

Ummm...Dark...as I asked you before, wouldn't everything you claim also be nothing more than your own interpretation? There are many sources, hints, and such that goes against everything you claim is a reason, but all I see is not a debate on facts. Rather a debate on how each person reads the manga.

Unless you want to start making the claim that what you believe is the true hard facts while anyone that disagrees with you is just interpretation.

There is certainly enough evidence to support Sakura being attracted to Naruto with all the subtle hints and such including the databooks.
 

Edited by James S Cassidy, 25 May 2014 - 08:36 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Ummm...Dark...as I asked you before, wouldn't everything you claim also be nothing more than your own interpretation? There are many sources, hints, and such that goes against everything you claim is a reason, but all I see is not a debate on facts. Rather a debate on how each person reads the manga.

Actually i bought up some facts and my opinion on it, and the case of double standard, Sakura did things that other characters did aswell but for her she gets that she's in love with Naruto when characters like Neji also were capable and did things comparable to Sakura.
Flashbacks and thoughts indicate either if the characte is in love with Naruto and the arguments to say that she's in love with Naruto are the same "deep care, she cherishs Naruto's dream and is capable of doing everything for him aswell" aside from that nothing more.

 

There is certainly enough evidence to support Sakura being attracted to Naruto with all the subtle hints and such including the databooks.

Like on the begining of the shippuuden when it shown to be attracted to Naruto and when Sai tells that Naruto loves her it's shown to the readers that up to that moment on 400+ chapters she only viewed Naruto as a friend only, and the confession where she supposedly conveyed her feelings for Naruto and later is shown that she loves Sasuke romantically?
Databooks also doesnt say much about Sakura loving Naruto romantically.
The third says she doesnt know what she feels about Naruto, it's shown to be deep care and doesnt go further on the "love aspect" with over and over stating "suki" towards Sasuke up to the last one.
I'm not using that and saying she loves Sasuke per example.

Also to finish if i treated my opinion as a fact i would not be debating at first place, i'm mostly focused on the nature of Sakura's feelings i just feel that it's missing hints to say that she loves Naruto romatically aside from her cherishing his dream and deeply caring about Naruto.
i'm not rejecting it as love but i dont think it's in romantic nature yet.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 25 May 2014 - 08:49 PM.

[FireFox]

At any rate I'm having trouble seeing how some count this as a moment of her favoring Naruto over Sasuke. Yeah I get with Naruto not there it lowers their chances slightly but that seems more like her determination to keep both of them safe more than anything.

Although I do recall later afterwards she considered cancelling the mission to keep Naruto out of harm's way or something since he still hadn't made a full recovery.

And there you have your answer Naruto's safety is more important to her than anything so i don't know why are you having trouble seeing this ?

 

Basically, Darkrest's logic goes like this: if they don't say it, they don't feel it. So, the characters can show hints over and over again (deep care, smile, Yamato saying that Sakura may even hold more than friendship for Naruto even though the sentence was not finished, thus open for "interpretation" even though we all know where it was going, even blushing like Sakura did when she asked Naruto if she looked better at the beginning of part 2), and he will not accept it.

Not only Yamato but before him Sai also "Sakura san you are very gentle with Naruto i read it in a book........? " this is again one those many moments when she's about to find out what she feels for him but the moment gets cut of this also  goes with Shikamru's dad comment while women are somewhat aggressive they are  also very gentle with the men they love i mean really this isn't rocket science for the reader to be able to understand that she loves him but can't figure it out because she's confused like Kishi said so many times Sakura doesn't understand men and she can't figure it out what she really feels for Naruto .

 

Heck if anyone's wondering what those cut of scenes mean here is a better explanation of it : 

 

http://paptala.tumbl...uthorial-intent

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 25 May 2014 - 08:54 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Not only Yamato but before him Sai also "Sakura san you are very gentle with Naruto i read it in a book........? " this is again one those many moments when she's about to find out what she feels for him but the moment gets cut of this also  goes with Shikamru's dad comment while women are somewhat aggressive they are  also very gentle with the men they love i mean really this isn't rocket science for the reader to be able to understand that she loves him but can't figure it out because she's confused like Kishi said so many times Sakura doesn't understand men and she can't figure it out what she feels for Naruto .
 
Heck if anyone's wondering what those cut of scenes mean here is a better explanation of it :

Those moments are mostly created to generate drama and made the audience guessing but i think on Naruto it's poorly done because of the confession, she evaluates her feelings for Naruto, says that she loves him and Kishimoto shows that she loves Sasuke.
It basically trolls and turn those moments into dust like they were nothing.
I think the biggest problem with this romance overall is that NS should have been canon ealier or if he wanted to keep the drama should not had done the confession, now he's rebuilding it by dodging and g meaningfull moments like Naruto's death for example, Naruto died and she thinking of his dream seemed weird to me, it took off the emotional aspect of his death.

Also i'm unable to understand why she's confused about her feelings because of the confession.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 25 May 2014 - 08:57 PM.

[Psychox]

it almost give that impression, before she was going to leave Naruto behind and later asks him to bring back, she cant be blamed but of scenarios are immature.
And it's shown that she was selfish on the poal when Sai tells her that Naruto loves her, that bought pain to him and she did that without thinking.
She passed her own burden to Naruto and he accepted it.
About KM4 doesnt connect with that scene but shows that it changed but is not an indicative off romantic thinking.
About Hinata once again, it's romantic desires but it's promptly infatuation which is a bad one, dont try to put Hinata and her thoughts into this to try to disprove my argument.

Impression are just that, impressions, you can interpreted it when nowhere was hinted or foreshadowed of her thinking or wanting so. She doesn't owe anything to Naruto, not back then , not now even. Sai told her what the POAL was doing to him , Sakura wasn't aware of Naruto's feelings for her, as soon as she came to know, she decided to brake it.  I think you forget that Sasuke's Narutos friend as well.  I dropped the KM4 accident to remind you why she was doing it all for Naruto and not for herself,i am not here to quarrel on the romance of that scene. You're argument is kind of weak to start with , trying to compare Hinata's alleged true love in that of Sakura . This isn't about selfishness or selflessness , it's about being able to understand each other and ground one another, which HInata doesn't fit in the picture.

 

 

When Sakura is about to kill Sasuke via flashbacks, her thoughts about him before she reach Sasuke and also when Karin and Sakura has that empathy moment where each other understands that they love Sasuke without having to talk.

 

 

She thinks of the old image of Sasuke or better yet , she thinks of Sasuke = loves him. Indisputable .

 

Trying to disprove my argument using things that doesnt address to my point?
This has nothing to do with my point, Sakura doesnt need to act like Hinata to show romance indicatives.
Like you say she's not Hinata.

 Disprove you point? What point ? You want Sakura to fangirl over Naruto, to droll over him . And for the better she ain't Hinata.

 

Are you once again not being able to read my post?
i basically expressed that she has platonic feelings for Sasuke but wanting to save Sasuke is also part of her feelings and it is one of the things that make seem that those platonic feelings aren't selfish neither immature.

 

 Doesn't matter ,they remain platonic ,nothing more.

 

 

Okay so let's talk about my logic.

"Deep care, smile"
How this makes her love romantic in nature?

"Yamato saying that Sakura may even hold more than friendship"
Open to interpretation, he was trying to say that her feelings for Naruto are more important and then was going to point out that she loves Naruto but if it's romantic in nature that's the debatable part, i believe it's not since she evaluated her feelings for Naruto on the confession and it didnt reached that conclusion.

 

 

IF want to stay up and chat on what romance is , you better find some other , i am not fit well for the job, not because i can't give my insight ,but because i find it unnecessary to say when a girl likes a guy or not.

If you're guy who applies to double standards then we could go on for ages, cause she has smiled at both Sasuke and Naruto, although the most care and smiles she has given to Naruto solely as shown on enough  panels.
Open to interpretation ? ''Its quite obvious you l-''  If you can't finish the 3 letters that are left, you'll lose and hangman game. 

If you say so.

 

That only brings the fact that she viewed Naruto as a man and nothing else, if she had romantic feelings for him the scene doesnt indicated that since shortly he acts as an immature kid and later she says that "he's still the same" with an annoyed face.
The second time she views Naruto as a man is when Sai tells her that Naruto loves her.

 

I think viewing Naruto as a man ,had happened in the Land of Waves arc, oh and FOD , or you'd need a memory freshener ?  Huh, so , when you bare romantic inclinations that makes you a man? I didn't know that.


 

@Psychox and Shadow Wolf.
I dont think logically the manga supports the conclusion you both support, i think that Sakura doesnt love Naruto romantically and will end up loving him that way close to the end, because it lacks development.
And as for the present she holds platonic feelings for both Naruto and Sasuke.

 

It lacks development? How much more do they need ? They have enough ,more isn't required . What more needs to happen? The manga to end maybe?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

She thinks of the old image of Sasuke or better yet , she thinks of Sasuke = loves him. Indisputable .

At that moment she didnt just think about Sasuke, it was emphasized mostly her confession to him.
It gives romantic implications.
 

Disprove you point? What point ? You want Sakura to fangirl over Naruto, to droll over him . And for the better she ain't Hinata.

Never implied it.
 

Doesn't matter ,they remain platonic ,nothing more.

Doesnt disregard my point.
 

IF want to stay up and chat on what romance is , you better find some other , i am not fit well for the job, not because i can't give my insight ,but because i find it unnecessary to say when a girl likes a guy or not.
If you're guy who applies to double standards then we could go on for ages, cause she has smiled at both Sasuke and Naruto, although the most care and smiles she has given to Naruto solely as shown on enough  panels.

Still those werent the reasons and neither why she loves romantically.

Open to interpretation ? ''Its quite obvious you l-''  If you can't finish the 3 letters that are left, you'll lose and hangman game. 
If you say so.

They way that Kishimoto addresses love, which is the word that is implied it necessary doesnt mean "romance".
 

I think viewing Naruto as a man ,had happened in the Land of Waves arc, oh and FOD , or you'd need a memory freshener ?  Huh, so , when you bare romantic inclinations that makes you a man? I didn't know that.

 Didnt understood this implication i think you mistook what i said.
 

It lacks development? How much more do they need ? They have enough ,more isn't required . What more needs to happen? The manga to end maybe?

"they have enough" none of the reasons "Naruto was always at her side", "Naruto is a hero", "Naruto always supported her", "Naruto can make her happy", all those is basically all the things Naruto did to Sakura and mostly NS development up until that confession, and still didnt made Sakura love Naruto romantically, so i dont think it's enough when it lacks Naruto changing Sakura and the forehead aspect, so it indeed lacks development.
Naruto still needs to resolve Sakura's insecurites and recently it was shown her problem with powerups, with her being behind Naruto and Sasuke and failed to stand on equal grounds with them.

And since Kishimoto loves parallels what Minato did to Kushina surprisingly is what is missing on NaruSaku development.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 25 May 2014 - 09:09 PM.