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Posted 15 November 2013 - 02:20 PM

 

Mhmm...hopefully we aren't making the same mistake ourselves...

I thought about this a lot of times and it happens here too, when sakura worries about Naruto on the war people scream NS moment FTW but i know that showing Sakura caring for Naruto it's the same as nothing.
I believe that she crossed the line of her feelings when she decided to kill Sasuke and accept Naruto's feelings despite not loving him, i think the summit + hug + bridge + the part where she showed physical attraction towards Naruto stabilished the fact that is possible for Sakura to love Naruto on the same way she loves Sasuke.(but obviously will be more strong).

 

That's why lately i dont get my hopes up when i see Sakura shows concern or caring about Naruto.


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 03:24 PM

I thought about this a lot of times and it happens here too, when sakura worries about Naruto on the war people scream NS moment FTW but i know that showing Sakura caring for Naruto it's the same as nothing.
I believe that she crossed the line of her feelings when she decided to kill Sasuke and accept Naruto's feelings despite not loving him, i think the summit + hug + bridge + the part where she showed physical attraction towards Naruto stabilished the fact that is possible for Sakura to love Naruto on the same way she loves Sasuke.(but obviously will be more strong).

 

That's why lately i dont get my hopes up when i see Sakura shows concern or caring about Naruto.

I'm sure some do, but I think most of us are just happy to see a moment between them. It's not romantic, but a moment nonetheless. Romance isn't all there is to them, fortunately.

 

What do you mean about not getting your hopes up? Sakura caring for Naruto won't necessarily lead to anything, her protecting him maybe. But it's not unusual for her, it's just a sweet thing you know. :3


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 03:47 PM

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HxH as an inspiration? Which is it the chunin exam, sasuke avenger, uchiha massacre, akatsuki? Sorry I never read the author note or interview that suggest kishi took togashi advice ^^
If yes than no wonder many people say togashi influence naruto.

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 04:37 PM

I'm sure some do, but I think most of us are just happy to see a moment between them. It's not romantic, but a moment nonetheless. Romance isn't all there is to them, fortunately.

 

What do you mean about not getting your hopes up? Sakura caring for Naruto won't necessarily lead to anything, her protecting him maybe. But it's not unusual for her, it's just a sweet thing you know. :3

I know that that's why i didnt generalize, often the oens who commit this mistaken often are NH fans because for some reason every times Hinata thinks about Naruto they think that NH chances increase for some reason, on my point of view the development of NS is on hold since the summit where it crossed the friendship line, when she saw Naruto on a romantic light and considered him as a better partner than Sasuke, i mean when you think about a friend romantically then it crosses the line of friendship maybe that's what Naruto implied on 631.

 

And mirrors to kishi's interview i guess, since he said that Naruto was closer, indeed, Sasuke was the most important person on her life, she trusted more his power than Naruto(gaara fight), and trusted on him and etc...

Kishi broke all this by having Naruto take Sasuke's spoit as the most important, losing the trust on Sasuke and trusting on Naruto's power, and also other things.

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I dont remember HXH part very well but i remember that they changed sketchs and Kishi said that he was inspired too by HxH.


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 04:41 PM

I'm sure some do, but I think most of us are just happy to see a moment between them. It's not romantic, but a moment nonetheless. Romance isn't all there is to them, fortunately.

 

What do you mean about not getting your hopes up? Sakura caring for Naruto won't necessarily lead to anything, her protecting him maybe. But it's not unusual for her, it's just a sweet thing you know. :3

Of course , there is the support ,shouldering each one's pain, burden's , pulling one another from tough situations and being close to one another. Worrying etc. etc. etc. Love is not all about kisses and hugs and all fluffy  stuff,  aid and assistance is also important , the relationship status the most  . Anyways, those are not the equivalent of romantic love ,but a heavy emotion twinges in all that :3.


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 04:52 PM

Kishimoto already confirmed that HxH inspired him. I can see that. Sasuke's story is inspired by Kurapika and Killua just a little bit, the chuunin exam idea is taken right from the hunter exam(the antagonists and set up especially), and Bisky is mysteriously similar to Tsunade.

Of course , there is the support ,shouldering each one's pain, burden's , pulling one another from tough situations and being close to one another. Worrying etc. etc. etc. Love is not all about kisses and hugs and all fluffy  stuff,  aid and assistance is also important , the relationship status the most  . Anyways, those are not the equivalent of romantic love ,but a heavy emotion twinges in all that :3.

Yes. Other than my giggling shipping heart, it makes their future more convincing and realistic. It's not unbelievable they can start a life together, they mesh so well already that the ending shouldn't really be a smack in the face. This is the basic elements a romance can be born from, and oh ~ they're already building it.  :hehehe: They really are the "friendship set on fire" type of ship.


Edited by sushi., 15 November 2013 - 05:05 PM.

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 05:34 PM

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Thanks ^^

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I never saw the author note or interview that suggest hxh inspire him. But I can see that many thing inspire from it.

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 10:57 PM

Mhmm...hopefully we aren't making the same mistake ourselves...

 

I think everyone on this site -- among the regulars, at least -- can clearly distinguish between caring and love.  We've discussed many times how we're waiting for everything to finally gel in Sakura's consciousness.  
 
Sakura loves Naruto, and she's devoted to him, but that essential spark -- the thing that will set their deep friendship on fire -- is yet to happen.  The fact that we recognize that, and we're waiting for the final resolution, is proof that you don't need to worry.
 
When people here say things such as "NS is a done deal" or "NS is confirmed" I believe they're speaking more in the sense that there is nothing standing in the way for NS to be finalized.  There is nothing left in the plot that suggests NS is not end game, and that for Kishimoto to not follow through now would require him to abandon an entire story's worth of build up.
 
Looking at it another way, it's practically impossible to conceive of a believable scenario where Sasuke could suddenly show Sakura any deeper feelings than whatever friendship and caring he demonstrated in Part I.  In my opinion this is especially true with Karin in the picture.
 
Likewise, after an entire story of foreshadowing, parallels, and build up between Naruto and Sakura -- and of Sakura taking slow but steady steps away from her feelings for Sasuke -- how could NS not happen?  How would it be believable or satisfying if, at the end, Naruto ends up saying, "Well, I guess I never stood a chance with Sakura because after everything that happened Sasuke still won her heart.  I guess I'll just be stuck with in love with Hinata after all."  ???
 
So no, I believe it's safe to say we're not confusing caring with love.  I think only Sakura has done that so far, and we're all waiting for her to see clearly.   :yes:


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Posted 16 November 2013 - 12:09 AM

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Looking at it another way, it's practically impossible to conceive of a believable scenario where Sasuke could suddenly show Sakura any deeper feelings than whatever friendship and caring he demonstrated in Part I.  In my opinion this is especially true with Karin in the picture.
 

I hope you're saying that despite the fact he cares about Karin and showing the same feelings for her like the ones he had for Sakura back them also doesnt justify that he might love Karin since he only showed care for her when she was about to die on his jutsu.

Instead of saying that just because Karin is out there it decreases the chances of SS happening because she exists.
i'm going to give a +1 like on your post because i think that's your explanation.

 

And also i believe that NS will happen, first it had the most development on part 2, because at the same time Kishi was building NS he was destroying SS in every way possible, SS bond was slowly being destroyed on part 2, Naruto took the empty slots that SS was leaving behind until it's utter destruction on the bridal save.

Still like a good NS fan, Kishi wasnt satisfied, so he also took the oportunity put some kind of "they're bond to be together because of destiny" we got Kushina parallels and Sakura's love being portraited as negative even on previous generations (Kaka/Rin).

Then we got that "filler" RTN, i know Naruto and Sakura's roles had been reversed but yet it leads a strong hint like they are soulmates putting then to be like Yin and Yang on the movie, i know it's filler but srsly, what kishi can do more to show it's obvious that it's already is.


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Posted 16 November 2013 - 01:03 AM

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They think naruto need to say I love you to sakura to believe that NS still in the game.

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Posted 16 November 2013 - 01:18 AM

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They think naruto need to say I love you to sakura to believe that NS still in the game.

I know, It's baffling how some people can not grasp that. It's not a question anymore. :headscratch: There are many ways one can say I love you. :ermm: Naruto has said and showed it in every possible way, except for the "L" word – Which is as usual, clearly spared for the climax.


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Posted 16 November 2013 - 04:00 AM

 

A week. Next chapter comes in on Thanksgiving week. Then a couple of more chapters until holiday breaks.

 

The message supposed to say, the next chapter will be in the 1st issue of the 2014 Weekly Shonen Jump, which they are releasing it a little bit too early.

 

So in other words, there isn't going to be a 6-week/a month and a half break.

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Posted 16 November 2013 - 10:11 AM

 
uh.... in which chapter exactly? O.o I didn't notice it.


Woops just realized it was an edited version lol
It was basically the panel where naruto tells Obito that he could have been family for Sasuke, a friend for Kakashi etc... And in one balloon they wrote:
"リンちゃんのストーカーで"
"Rin-chan's stalker"

Sorry false alarm ahah

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Posted 16 November 2013 - 11:49 AM

Woops just realized it was an edited version lol
It was basically the panel where naruto tells Obito that he could have been family for Sasuke, a friend for Kakashi etc... And in one balloon they wrote:
"リンちゃんのストーカーで"
"Rin-chan's stalker"

Sorry false alarm ahah

Lol it's cool.



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Posted 16 November 2013 - 01:16 PM

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They think naruto need to say I love you to sakura to believe that NS still in the game.

 

Action > Words . There was a girl once and she was my ''girlfriend'' :zaru: , anyways , she was claiming ''OMGGG, i love you , you're handsome ,you're strong, you're cool, i love you so much , blah blah blah blah'' . Pretty words, but just words. If you though that that relationship ended after a week  and she lost connection with this number :zaru:  then you're very right .

So in sum, Naruto doesn't have to tell Sakura '' I LOVE YOU COME HERE I WILL NOM NOM NOM you now'' ... It makes no sense ,he has already showed how much he loves her , Sakura herself knows as Darkrest already stated , during the entangled romantic feelings via Sai.


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Posted 16 November 2013 - 10:39 PM

The gourd containing the GinKin brothers, Samui, and Atsui has yet to show despite the fact that everything that was used in reconstituting the Jubi was removed a chapter ago. I'm beginning to wonder if it's not trapped inside the Shinju itself which presents another question. How is it still alive when its power was completely deprived from it? Unless the Shinju has deteriorated into a powerless shell that is in fact the Mazo then it should have disappeared when its connection to the bijuu was severed. 

 

It's possible that the GinKin siblings may be acting as the sole source of chakra for the tree now since for whatever reason the sage's treasure wasn't extracted from Tobi. 



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 12:39 AM

Wait...I just thought of something. What happened to the "Amber Purifying Pot?" You think it got pull out too?


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Posted 17 November 2013 - 12:44 AM

Wait...I just thought of something. What happened to the "Amber Purifying Pot?" You think it got pull out too?

...Hm...Maybe it's still in Obito?



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 12:47 AM

Wait...I just thought of something. What happened to the "Amber Purifying Pot?" You think it got pull out too?

 

That's what it's called? I probably got that mixed up with the item the brothers used which uses a person's most frequently used word. 

 

It didn't show the pot being released with the bijuu which is why I thought the extraction was odd. I'm not sure if it's actually with the bijuu and there haven't been any panels depicting it for whatever reason or if it's still in the Shinju (which should only be comprised of the Mazo). 



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 02:02 AM

The pot get swallow by gedo mazo, so it would be vomit by the gedo. And kin gin will disappear if they get out from it.




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