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[Nasir]

Sadly, yes, I feel really sorry for them. NaruxSaku may not be a cannon pairing(yet) but it still has lots of material to work with. Isn't Naruto all about looking forward towards the future, changing and growing and learning? The future chapters in the manga is hinting towards romance in the NaruSaku and yes while Sakura did "love" Sasuke in the past, feelings do change and as people grow older, so do their perspective of other people around them. Unless they could provide some evidence from Part 2 in the manga that SasuSaku would work, its best they just leave the pairings to die.

umm.....isnt narusaku already a canon pairing?, i mean manga wise.....

[Penandsword1]

It's pratically cannon, but until Kishi-sensei illustrate it in the future chapeters, manga wise not yet

[Silent Shinobi]

lol, it's not quite canon YET, people. Of course, to people who have that kind of logical foresight, it's almost as good as canon anyway. I see it as people letting what they assumed about Part 1 get in the way of their view toward what's happening now. (For example, "Sakura can't love Naruto 'cuz she loves Sasuke!" Or, "Naruto gave up on Sakura, so there's no way NaruSaku could be canon!") Problem being, the arguments aren't sound anyway, and don't bar the relationship besides. But they'll use baseless arguments like those anyway, to support their general denial of how the NaruSaku romance is following the typical anime love formula to a tee.

I've tried to get some of the best SasuSaku debaters I know to provide an explanation as to how their arguments have real basis. I haven't gotten a satisfactory explanation yet. So it leads me to believe tha these arguments really are nothing but opinion.

That said, I really have a hard time understanding a SasuSaku-er that swears up and down that NaruSaku doesn't exist, or that SasuSaku is already canon, that 181 is some sort of moment that made SasuSaku a couple just because Sasukesaid 'thank you' (when it's also a death toll of sorts, because after all that he left her, with no second thoughts) or that 183 was some moment that killed NaruSaku just cause Naruto promised Sakura that he'd bring Sasuke back (when it pretty clearly shows how much love he has for her.)

I mean really. If you don't like how the pairings turn out, go read fanfiction. (Good luck finding a good SasuSaku one; all the sappy ones I've read have one or both being OOC. That says something about SasuSaku itself, doesn't it?) But don't delude yourself. As things stand now, NaruHina has a better chance of happening than SasuSaku. It's funny how some people refuse to face facts.

[Silent Storm]

lol, it's not quite canon YET, people. Of course, to people who have that kind of logical foresight, it's almost as good as canon anyway. I see it as people letting what they assumed about Part 1 get in the way of their view toward what's happening now. (For example, "Sakura can't love Naruto 'cuz she loves Sasuke!" Or, "Naruto gave up on Sakura, so there's no way NaruSaku could be canon!") Problem being, the arguments aren't sound anyway, and don't bar the relationship besides. But they'll use baseless arguments like those anyway, to support their general denial of how the NaruSaku romance is following the typical anime love formula to a tee.

I've tried to get some of the best SasuSaku debaters I know to provide an explanation as to how their arguments have real basis. I haven't gotten a satisfactory explanation yet. So it leads me to believe tha these arguments really are nothing but opinion.

That said, I really have a hard time understanding a SasuSaku-er that swears up and down that NaruSaku doesn't exist, or that SasuSaku is already canon, that 181 is some sort of moment that made SasuSaku a couple just because Sasukesaid 'thank you' (when it's also a death toll of sorts, because after all that he left her, with no second thoughts) or that 183 was some moment that killed NaruSaku just cause Naruto promised Sakura that he'd bring Sasuke back (when it pretty clearly shows how much love he has for her.)

I mean really. If you don't like how the pairings turn out, go read fanfiction. (Good luck finding a good SasuSaku one; all the sappy ones I've read have one or both being OOC. That says something about SasuSaku itself, doesn't it?) But don't delude yourself. As things stand now, NaruHina has a better chance of happening than SasuSaku. It's funny how some people refuse to face facts.

Well said,people dont want to face facts

[Shadow0fabandit]

lol, it's not quite canon YET, people. Of course, to people who have that kind of logical foresight, it's almost as good as canon anyway. I see it as people letting what they assumed about Part 1 get in the way of their view toward what's happening now. (For example, "Sakura can't love Naruto 'cuz she loves Sasuke!" Or, "Naruto gave up on Sakura, so there's no way NaruSaku could be canon!") Problem being, the arguments aren't sound anyway, and don't bar the relationship besides. But they'll use baseless arguments like those anyway, to support their general denial of how the NaruSaku romance is following the typical anime love formula to a tee.

I've tried to get some of the best SasuSaku debaters I know to provide an explanation as to how their arguments have real basis. I haven't gotten a satisfactory explanation yet. So it leads me to believe tha these arguments really are nothing but opinion.

That said, I really have a hard time understanding a SasuSaku-er that swears up and down that NaruSaku doesn't exist, or that SasuSaku is already canon, that 181 is some sort of moment that made SasuSaku a couple just because Sasukesaid 'thank you' (when it's also a death toll of sorts, because after all that he left her, with no second thoughts) or that 183 was some moment that killed NaruSaku just cause Naruto promised Sakura that he'd bring Sasuke back (when it pretty clearly shows how much love he has for her.)

I mean really. If you don't like how the pairings turn out, go read fanfiction. (Good luck finding a good SasuSaku one; all the sappy ones I've read have one or both being OOC. That says something about SasuSaku itself, doesn't it?) But don't delude yourself. As things stand now, NaruHina has a better chance of happening than SasuSaku. It's funny how some people refuse to face facts.

Well said,people dont want to face facts

Well, technically everything that has been in Part 2 are not considered facts until we actually find out Sakura's true feelings. She hasn't said she doesn't "love Sasuke anymore nor has she said that she likes Naruto. But by the hintsi n the manga I am pretty sure we will know soon.

[adrianna]

Well, technically everything that has been in Part 2 are not considered facts until we actually find out Sakura's true feelings. She hasn't said she doesn't "love Sasuke anymore nor has she said that she likes Naruto. But by the hintsi n the manga I am pretty sure we will know soon.

Actually, with what's going on currently in the manga, our long-awaited hints may very well be chapters and chapters away, unfortunately.

[Shadow0fabandit]

Well, technically everything that has been in Part 2 are not considered facts until we actually find out Sakura's true feelings. She hasn't said she doesn't "love Sasuke anymore nor has she said that she likes Naruto. But by the hintsi n the manga I am pretty sure we will know soon.

Actually, with what's going on currently in the manga, our long-awaited hints may very well be chapters and chapters away, unfortunately.

I can guarantee it is chapters away maybe even next arc, but it is still soon. Now, for them to become a pair is something we will either never see or if our pair becomes a canon then it will be in the few final chapters of the manga.

[causeiambetta]

as someone newly getting used to naruto x sakura, i think that a big part of Sakura x Naruto in part 2 is based on everything being in a void.

Once Sasuke is back in the village as a leaf nin, THEN we will see who sakura takes up with... my money is with Sasuke

Sakura will be the angel that helps him back from the darkness. thats my gut feeling. Even though i wish Naruto gets sakura in the end.

Again, until both Sasuke and Naruto are options for sakura, we wont know

[Shadow0fabandit]

as someone newly getting used to naruto x sakura, i think that a big part of Sakura x Naruto in part 2 is based on everything being in a void.

Once Sasuke is back in the village as a leaf nin, THEN we will see who sakura takes up with... my money is with Sasuke

Sakura will be the angel that helps him back from the darkness. thats my gut feeling. Even though i wish Naruto gets sakura in the end.

Again, until both Sasuke and Naruto are options for sakura, we wont know

We may never get to see that happen. Sasuke probably won't make it to the end or ever be convinced to come back to Konoha. The only thing driving his life is hatred for his brother Itachi. My gut feeling is he probably won't return.

[Mizura]

Sakura will be the angel that helps him back from the darkness.

You're kidding right? XD Haven't you read the Whole manga up till now? The "Angel" is Naruto: he's the one who Did manage to change Sasuke's path pre-timeskip, and the Naruto-Sasuke relationship is the sole that has been focused on in a Major way in part 2. XD

[Silent Shinobi]

as someone newly getting used to naruto x sakura, i think that a big part of Sakura x Naruto in part 2 is based on everything being in a void.

Once Sasuke is back in the village as a leaf nin, THEN we will see who sakura takes up with... my money is with Sasuke

Sakura will be the angel that helps him back from the darkness. thats my gut feeling. Even though i wish Naruto gets sakura in the end.

Again, until both Sasuke and Naruto are options for sakura, we wont know

Your opinion is based on quite a few big IFs. Like that Sasuke will ever come back to Konoha. And that Sakura will be the one to 'help Sasuke from the darkness' (yeah right :rolleyes:) And that once Sasuke comes back she'll still want to be with him. AND that Sasuke will EVER be interested in Sakura (don't hold your breath :rolleyes:)

So in other words, a SasuSaku is a BIG longshot. And everything is not 'in a void'. Only SasuSaku.

[Hopestar]

True that I wont deny that factor

[MagusKyros]

Well, technically everything that has been in Part 2 are not considered facts until we actually find out Sakura's true feelings. She hasn't said she doesn't "love Sasuke anymore nor has she said that she likes Naruto. But by the hintsi n the manga I am pretty sure we will know soon.

Actually, with what's going on currently in the manga, our long-awaited hints may very well be chapters and chapters away, unfortunately.

I can guarantee it is chapters away maybe even next arc, but it is still soon. Now, for them to become a pair is something we will either never see or if our pair becomes a canon then it will be in the few final chapters of the manga.

Final few chapters? I'm pretty sure they'll get together hell of a lot earlier than that. Remember, this anime is based on Naruto's LIFE. I'm betting we'll see him grow older, get his own genin cell, etc etc. Though I could be entirely wrong, but Kishi seems to be going for what Akira did for Goku in Dragonball. Grow up, have kids, etc etc.

[Silent Shinobi]

Actually, it's not necessarily based on Naruto's life, just because it's called Naruto. And seeing Goku grown up wasn't originally what Toriyama had planned for Dragonball anyway.

[MagusKyros]

So are you saying Dragonball Z was just because fans wanted more?

[Nate River]

Yep. Toriyama wanted to stop at the end of dragonball, but was pressued into continuing the series because of Dragonball's popularity. As a result, he made DBZ up to the Frieza Arc. He then got pressued to continue and the Cell arc was born. Toward the end of the Cell arc and for some of the Buu arc he tried to shift the series to Gohan, but fan pressure forced a shift to Goku.

[SilverLily]

All of that fan pressure really destroyed the series, too. Dragon Ball GT is a great example of how terribly everything went.

As for canon pairing is Naruto, there aren't even any canon pairings mentioned at all! We can only guess at AsumaKurenai, (until later maga chapters, of course,) and we don't even see 'parents' running around. Gai, alone, Kakashi's alone, Iruka's alone, we don't even see Ino's mom, although we know who her dad is, and same with Chouji.
The only parents we actually see are Shikamaru's.
There aren't any canon pairings! Therefore, SasuSaku shippers are baseless when they say Sasuke and Sakura are a canon pairing.
It simply isn't true.
And the way things are going now, Sasuke is the catalyst that is throwing Naruto and Sakura together. In that respect, I believe Sasuke's role is necessary. After they get together, Sasuke needs to be vaporized by a wind manipulation rasengan before he dissappears up his own anus.

[Penandsword1]

All of that fan pressure really destroyed the series, too. Dragon Ball GT is a great example of how terribly everything went.

As for canon pairing is Naruto, there aren't even any canon pairings mentioned at all! We can only guess at AsumaKurenai, (until later maga chapters, of course,) and we don't even see 'parents' running around. Gai, alone, Kakashi's alone, Iruka's alone, we don't even see Ino's mom, although we know who her dad is, and same with Chouji.
The only parents we actually see are Shikamaru's.
There aren't any canon pairings! Therefore, SasuSaku shippers are baseless when they say Sasuke and Sakura are a canon pairing.
It simply isn't true.
And the way things are going now, Sasuke is the catalyst that is throwing Naruto and Sakura together. In that respect, I believe Sasuke's role is necessary. After they get together, Sasuke needs to be vaporized by a wind manipulation rasengan before he dissappears up his own anus.

lol well put, well put.
I really hope Naruto and Sakura could be paired like Shikamaru's parents. The husband may be whipped badly by the wife, but on the inside they love each. Shikamaru's dad put up with it in order to make his wife happy and the wife only nags at him because she only wants what's best for her husband. If Sakura goes with Sasuke, I could see alot of domestic abuse on Sasuke's part and Sakura would be miserable always trying to please him, while Sasuke belittles her and continues to make her feel worthless.

[MagusKyros]

I knew that Toriyama wanted to stop at the end of the Frieza saga. Everything after that pretty much made no sense.

[Nick Soapdish]

And the way things are going now, Sasuke is the catalyst that is throwing Naruto and Sakura together. In that respect, I believe Sasuke's role is necessary. After they get together, Sasuke needs to be vaporized by a wind manipulation rasengan before he dissappears up his own anus.

I don't think he's necessary for that reason. I think that Naruto and Sakura built up enough of a relationship in part one that they might get together. Their shared anguish over the defection of their teammate doesn't artificially force the two of them together simply to retrieve him.

Sasuke is necessary to the plot for other reasons.