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#2901 Bail o' Lies

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 05:30 AM

Rindou is the one I'm looking forward to the most, she fits very much into the Jouchirou mold, where I can see her taking the number one seat, but she just can't be bothered with the paperwork involved, (though her agreeing to Azami's regime still doesn't make sense to me, she seems very much like the worst fit for that regime.) Even though it's against the former number 3 seat I'm expecting a win for Rindou here.

 

I can't see copycat stalker winning his match, his opponent looks like someone who would not be phased out by those tactics at all.

 

As for Kuga, let's be honest here, he might be a hot head like Souma but I don't think he has the nerves and ability to beat the number one seat at all.

 

 

How many rounds are there going to be in the first place? Is it going to go on until one side has no member remaining, or will there be a set number of rounds, and down to who wins the most rounds?

Rindou was the one to decide when she first met Eishi that he would be first seat and she would be second. As for joining central I think she made herself quite clear when Azami first appear she wanted a bit of chaos to make the school a bit more exciting. That's also why she let Megumi and Takumi pass so the rebel wouldn't be down to two members left before they could challenge central.

 

Until there is no one of left on one side or three rounds and who ever has the most teammates left wins.

I don't exactly understand Erina's reasoning here. If you really look at the situation, throwing one or two matches is actually the ideal move here. I can understand trying to keep up the momentum, but the rebels are risking losing their best weapon early in the game. Quite frankly, the best match-up to face Rindou and Eishi is Soma, Erina and Megishima.

To me, those 3 represent the 3 things a chef must have: Skill (Megishima), Talent (Erina), Vision/Creativity (Soma)

Kuga, Megishima, and Saburu wanted to fight so she let them. The problem is unlike her father she doesn't have a lot of sacrificial pawns. Of the three that were sent into the first round only Nene had a chance of winning against her opponent, and her opponent was Souma. He also has the Yakuza that can lose as well. Who will most like lose to Souma. Even with him gone he would still have 1 2 3 and 5 seats left. Erina after losing this round will only have Satoshi, Eirina, Souma, Takumi, and Megumi. She can only has Satoshi to sacrifice after this round because it will probably be the teamwork the other four have developed during that month that will win them the war.

 

 

I wouldn't have minded seeing Eishi vs Erina, one person who knows how to get the best out of his ingredient and the other who can use her tongue to know exactly what a dish needs to get it's maximum taste.

 

Come to think of it have we seen Erina in a proper Shokugeki? We've seen her perform well, and we've seen her analyze other dishes and offer her critique, but have we seen her in a battle where we've seen how she operates?

Honestly I hope it's:

Eishi vs Erina

Rindou vs Souma

Momo/Eizan v Megumi/Takumi

 

She was in a battle against that Sumo butt monkey guy. That's the closest we got other then the camp she finished before Souma.


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Posted 21 June 2017 - 11:30 AM

Rindou was the one to decide when she first met Eishi that he would be first seat and she would be second. As for joining central I think she made herself quite clear when Azami first appear she wanted a bit of chaos to make the school a bit more exciting. That's also why she let Megumi and Takumi pass so the rebel wouldn't be down to two members left before they could challenge central.

 

 

That's the exact reason why it doesn't make sense, if the star dorm didn't have the likes of Souma, there would not have been any long term chaos, within a couple of weeks 95% of the school was under their control, the ones who tried to rebel outside Star Dorm were forced to comply or were defeated and kicked out. Within a months outside Star Dorm, everyone else had fallen in line.

 

It would be like saying you want to start a revolution and then putting King Jong Un in charge...It doesn't make any sense.  You don't vote for a Dictatorship and then back it up with your most powerful people, (and kick out the potential rebels from the elite) if you want to stir things up, Besides if she wanted chaos why did she not join the rebels herself? In fact I'm surprised she was not kicked out in the firs place, her attitude goes against Azami's system, she's too much of a free spirit to stay loyal to such a system.


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Posted 21 June 2017 - 04:45 PM

Yeah no idea. Anyway can anyone confirm here about season 3 of the anime? Several sources state that it's coming out next month, but I don't see it on any summer anime lists


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Posted 21 June 2017 - 10:29 PM

 

That's the exact reason why it doesn't make sense, if the star dorm didn't have the likes of Souma, there would not have been any long term chaos, within a couple of weeks 95% of the school was under their control, the ones who tried to rebel outside Star Dorm were forced to comply or were defeated and kicked out. Within a months outside Star Dorm, everyone else had fallen in line.

 

It would be like saying you want to start a revolution and then putting King Jong Un in charge...It doesn't make any sense.  You don't vote for a Dictatorship and then back it up with your most powerful people, (and kick out the potential rebels from the elite) if you want to stir things up, Besides if she wanted chaos why did she not join the rebels herself? In fact I'm surprised she was not kicked out in the firs place, her attitude goes against Azami's system, she's too much of a free spirit to stay loyal to such a system.

No. It does. Remember the first time we really meet Rindou was during the Full Moon Festival and the little store match competition between Souma and Kuga had. By that point she should have already sided with Azami. Since the Ten-Seat council has complete control of the school with the chairmen, and with a fully central supporting council once they excise the dissident from the council; they would have already completely won and everything else is just clean up. But to her that's too boring. So to make it fun someone need to be able to stand up to them and actually make it a challenge. Someone that other people will really behind to form a rebellion. Is it Kuga? Who is already a captain of a research society. Or is it Souma? The freshman who been making big waves shocking everyone?

 

When Souma won she took him to eat some of Eishi food to show him the power of the first seat. Then followed him to Erina place where he first met Azami.

 

You gotta understand she supports central -she's probably the person that convince everyone to go along with Azami-, but she doesn't just want it to be a steamrolling. She wants someone to give them some sport. That's what Souma is to her. So she wants to observe him put into difficult situations with the deck stacked against him and see if he can win. If he can he is interesting; if he can't it was fun while it lasted onward with the goals of Central.

 

With Eizen he had the judges completely on his side, and his goons attacking the dorm. How can Souma win? By making it a true competition instead of just a farcical facade.

 

When the rebels were split up onto different trains with the main group being Souma, Erina, Megumi, and Takumi. With Souma having to fight Akira the new ninth seat that once defeated him. Erina as the Tenth seat was just given a standard test. While Megumi & Takumi had to fight her. Erina passing was a given but why did she let those two pass so easily? Well if Souma losses what's the harm of keeping them around, if Souma wins then they have just enough people left to try something desperate.

 

The current competition is happening because she told them where Azami is once she heard of their plan. Which will led to the completion of Central's victory or a complete regime change with the new council that will most likely restore the old system with a few changes here and there.   

 

Azami is the dictator. Rindou is just a bored high society socialite girl that thinks the regime change will make the world around her a bit more interesting


Edited by Bail o' Lies, 21 June 2017 - 10:52 PM.


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Posted 22 June 2017 - 01:54 PM

No. It does. Remember the first time we really meet Rindou was during the Full Moon Festival and the little store match competition between Souma and Kuga had. By that point she should have already sided with Azami. Since the Ten-Seat council has complete control of the school with the chairmen, and with a fully central supporting council once they excise the dissident from the council; they would have already completely won and everything else is just clean up. But to her that's too boring. So to make it fun someone need to be able to stand up to them and actually make it a challenge. Someone that other people will really behind to form a rebellion. Is it Kuga? Who is already a captain of a research society. Or is it Souma? The freshman who been making big waves shocking everyone?

 

When Souma won she took him to eat some of Eishi food to show him the power of the first seat. Then followed him to Erina place where he first met Azami.

 

You gotta understand she supports central -she's probably the person that convince everyone to go along with Azami-, but she doesn't just want it to be a steamrolling. She wants someone to give them some sport. That's what Souma is to her. So she wants to observe him put into difficult situations with the deck stacked against him and see if he can win. If he can he is interesting; if he can't it was fun while it lasted onward with the goals of Central.

 

With Eizen he had the judges completely on his side, and his goons attacking the dorm. How can Souma win? By making it a true competition instead of just a farcical facade.

 

When the rebels were split up onto different trains with the main group being Souma, Erina, Megumi, and Takumi. With Souma having to fight Akira the new ninth seat that once defeated him. Erina as the Tenth seat was just given a standard test. While Megumi & Takumi had to fight her. Erina passing was a given but why did she let those two pass so easily? Well if Souma losses what's the harm of keeping them around, if Souma wins then they have just enough people left to try something desperate.

 

The current competition is happening because she told them where Azami is once she heard of their plan. Which will led to the completion of Central's victory or a complete regime change with the new council that will most likely restore the old system with a few changes here and there.   

 

Azami is the dictator. Rindou is just a bored high society socialite girl that thinks the regime change will make the world around her a bit more interesting

 

 

I'd say it's something we'll have to disagree. This weeks chapter was another that shows how her methods clash with Azami's conveyor belt type chef, it showed how she traveled around the world, to learn about the different types of ingredients, (Many that are morally dubious,) going beyond normal cooking styles and techniques. Her visiting every single cooking club during the festival is another example of her appreciating multiple different styles of cooking, yet one of the first actions of the new regime was to close down all the clubs that didn't live up to Azami's standards. Again a clear conflict of interest.

 

Yeah this weeks chapter went a small way to explain why she did it, her being a rich socialite, but beyond that it showed how her style is a clear conflict of what Azami considers acceptable. A world with Azami's methods would be a world she would be bored in, it would be one where she wouldn't be able to sample the different ingredients she appreciates, it would be a world where everywhere she went the taste could be manufactured from the same factory.

 

Her being bored and wanting to stir things up, make no sense for someone who clearly thrives on the diversity of the worlds different cooking styles and the multiple ingredients that are out there. She would be the type of person who would feel the ramifications of such a regime.

 

On a side note, I find the mangaka's lack of care for endangered species once again disturbing, the way he wrote how as long as it doesn't affect the local eco-system, it's fine if they are made extinct. Morally find that kind of Blaisie attitude disturbing.


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Posted 22 June 2017 - 04:00 PM

 

 

I'd say it's something we'll have to disagree. This weeks chapter was another that shows how her methods clash with Azami's conveyor belt type chef, it showed how she traveled around the world, to learn about the different types of ingredients, (Many that are morally dubious,) going beyond normal cooking styles and techniques. Her visiting every single cooking club during the festival is another example of her appreciating multiple different styles of cooking, yet one of the first actions of the new regime was to close down all the clubs that didn't live up to Azami's standards. Again a clear conflict of interest.

 

Yeah this weeks chapter went a small way to explain why she did it, her being a rich socialite, but beyond that it showed how her style is a clear conflict of what Azami considers acceptable. A world with Azami's methods would be a world she would be bored in, it would be one where she wouldn't be able to sample the different ingredients she appreciates, it would be a world where everywhere she went the taste could be manufactured from the same factory.

 

Her being bored and wanting to stir things up, make no sense for someone who clearly thrives on the diversity of the worlds different cooking styles and the multiple ingredients that are out there. She would be the type of person who would feel the ramifications of such a regime.

 

On a side note, I find the mangaka's lack of care for endangered species once again disturbing, the way he wrote how as long as it doesn't affect the local eco-system, it's fine if they are made extinct. Morally find that kind of Blaisie attitude disturbing.

There a certain thing about socialist governments their are rules for the common people that must be strictly followed, and then rules for the elites that rule the government that are incredibly lax. To quote animal farm "All Animals (chiefs) are equal, But some animals (the elite ten) are More equal then others." One of the selling point for the first stage of central was that every student will soon be cooking on the level of the elite ten if they follow him. So he needs these individual and gifted cooks at first to sell Central to the students then once his students graduate and hit the world stage by storm he can sell his ideal Central off his students success. But for now he needs the elite ten to work with him to get the ball rolling. She may or may not fully believe in central we don't know that yet. But like I said she doing it for fun the same reason she is helping Souma.

 

Headmaster Nakiri is "a representation of the old government."

Azami is "a charismatic ideologue that plans on installing himself as dictator in a new totalitarian socialist regime."

Eishi is "a starving artist that thinks his work will be more respected and admired under a new regime."

Rindou is "a bored high society socialite girl that thinks the regime change will make the world around her a bit more interesting."

Megishima is "a conservative that was content under the old government."

Momo...I don't really get that much from her yet but she is probably "the weak will that just follows along with the regime change."

Saitou is "the military that put the dictator in power because they think they will become more influential under the new regime."

Nene is "The academic that copy what their taught but don't really think who tend to just follow the new regime because it's sounds good."

Satoshi is "a capitalist that knows dictatorship are bad for them."

Kuga is "royalty or anyone that enjoy great perks under the old government."

Eizen is "a greedy businessman who thinks he will get rich by working with the regime and doesn't care if everyone else is poor and starving."

Erina is "the religious people (because of her god's tongue) that tend to suffer the most under a dictatorial regime because they generally don't like the idea of their people believing their is a higher authority than them."

Polar star dorm are "the individualistic masses that don't desire government to hold them back and want to make it on their own."

The students that went with central are "the collectivist masses that believe they can't make it on their own and want the government to support them."

 

People do eat alligators along with almost every other animal in the world. I wouldn't be surprised if we see someone cooking up dog in this manga eventually. Also from what I've heard alligator meat is delicious and tastes like really good chicken.  This is a battle manga where people fight by cooking. There was bound to be someone who cooks exotic food somewhere. They do say she tries to avoid taking more then the ecosystem can handle.


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Posted 22 June 2017 - 04:09 PM

I'd say it's something we'll have to disagree. This weeks chapter was another that shows how her methods clash with Azami's conveyor belt type chef, it showed how she traveled around the world, to learn about the different types of ingredients, (Many that are morally dubious,) going beyond normal cooking styles and techniques. Her visiting every single cooking club during the festival is another example of her appreciating multiple different styles of cooking, yet one of the first actions of the new regime was to close down all the clubs that didn't live up to Azami's standards. Again a clear conflict of interest.
 
Yeah this weeks chapter went a small way to explain why she did it, her being a rich socialite, but beyond that it showed how her style is a clear conflict of what Azami considers acceptable. A world with Azami's methods would be a world she would be bored in, it would be one where she wouldn't be able to sample the different ingredients she appreciates, it would be a world where everywhere she went the taste could be manufactured from the same factory.
 
Her being bored and wanting to stir things up, make no sense for someone who clearly thrives on the diversity of the worlds different cooking styles and the multiple ingredients that are out there. She would be the type of person who would feel the ramifications of such a regime.
 
On a side note, I find the mangaka's lack of care for endangered species once again disturbing, the way he wrote how as long as it doesn't affect the local eco-system, it's fine if they are made extinct. Morally find that kind of Blaisie attitude disturbing.


There were 4 people who rejected Azami's offer in E10. If Rindou had joined them, it would be a tie. I think she was likely the tie-breaker in their votes. She chose to go along with Azami precisely to stir things up. She couldn't do that if she voted against Azami. But given her attitude about his regime, it's clear she's trying to screw him in subtle, indirect ways.

As for the theme ingredient, it should be something a ramen master is more than capable of. A guy from the same kind of breed of Souma would obviously oppose Azami. The fact that he made it all the way to 3rd seat is a pretty good benchmark for Souma. It also convinces me even more that the line-up of Megishima, Erina, and Souma is the best line-up to take on the 2nd and 1st seats.

Anyone here a New Yorker? Ever heard of Ivan Ramen? I watched Ivan's Chef's Table episode and the one thing I can gather from it is that being a ramen chef is pretty flexible. The way I see it, to truly stand out among thousands of ramen chefs in Japan like Ivan would require a balance of skill/taste and vision/creativity. And that's what Erina and Souma stand for respectively, while Megishima can balance both of them out.

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 02:54 AM

Season 3 is coming this fall! Yay, it'll be fun to see the top ten in anime form.


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Posted 06 July 2017 - 05:15 AM

Yeah can't wait!!!

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Posted 21 July 2017 - 06:09 AM

Saitou is a sushi chief. Eishi actually looks shocked by what happened with Kuga, and seems somewhat impressed by the end.



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Posted 21 July 2017 - 06:16 PM

hmm yeah maybe. also I sort if saw it coming when I saw his big katana like knife :P


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Posted 24 July 2017 - 12:43 AM

Anyone want to guess what the results will be in the second round? clean sweep by Central or give and take wins and losses? or will there be another illogical sweep by the Rebels which is impossible? Or is it? :hehehe:


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Posted 25 July 2017 - 10:40 PM

Anyone want to guess what the results will be in the second round? c;ean sweep by Central or give and take wins and losses? or will there be another illogical sweeep by the Rebels which is impossible? Or is it? :hehehe:

 

I see a clean sweep, the rebels are being shown as having a chance, but we are talking about the current first, second and fifth seat.

 

I can't see the first seat losing against someone who is a support character, Rindou as much as she is disruptive, is the only one that keeps the communication channels open between the other members, so her loss would be the biggest blow to them, and the copycat I just want to see win, and besides he's against the one person who'd be the least bit phased by those tactic.

 

I wouldn't mind seeing Rindou lose simply because I'd like to see her reaction, she's probably the most confident from all the chefs at the school, with the skills to back it up. So it would be interesting to see how her loss would be written.

 

This manga's been a bit stale this past few weeks, hopefully things pick up soon, I don't think this arc is going as well as the Mangaka and publishers hoped...then again the introduction of Azami and his regime as a whole feels like it was mistake that the manga might not recover from. I wonder if it's affected volume sales.


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Posted 26 July 2017 - 01:23 PM

 
I see a clean sweep, the rebels are being shown as having a chance, but we are talking about the current first, second and fifth seat.
 
I can't see the first seat losing against someone who is a support character, Rindou as much as she is disruptive, is the only one that keeps the communication channels open between the other members, so her loss would be the biggest blow to them, and the copycat I just want to see win, and besides he's against the one person who'd be the least bit phased by those tactic.
 
I wouldn't mind seeing Rindou lose simply because I'd like to see her reaction, she's probably the most confident from all the chefs at the school, with the skills to back it up. So it would be interesting to see how her loss would be written.
 
This manga's been a bit stale this past few weeks, hopefully things pick up soon, I don't think this arc is going as well as the Mangaka and publishers hoped...then again the introduction of Azami and his regime as a whole feels like it was mistake that the manga might not recover from. I wonder if it's affected volume sales.

From what I've seen, the manga sales are doing fine. They've been ptty stable.
But yes, I agree with you about the current quality of the manga.

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Posted 26 July 2017 - 02:25 PM

From what I've seen, the manga sales are doing fine. They've been ptty stable.
But yes, I agree with you about the current quality of the manga.

 

I did look into the sales after my comment, the half year sales appear to be down by around 300,000 (1.47m vs 1.75m last year) compared to last year, but that fall could be attributed to their being a anime that bolstered sales, it will be interesting to see end of year sales, I expect they will be down on last year and the year before. (I expect this arc won't help sales when it goes on sales in the second half of the year.)

 

Maybe it's just in the west where the arc is not that popular, I've seen very little conversation regarding the battles, this thread is an example where conversation regarding the battles has been stale, and when you consider this is the elite ten, the main bosses set out early on, yet there seems to be very little excitement about it.


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Posted 26 July 2017 - 11:09 PM

 

I see a clean sweep, the rebels are being shown as having a chance, but we are talking about the current first, second and fifth seat.

 

I can't see the first seat losing against someone who is a support character, Rindou as much as she is disruptive, is the only one that keeps the communication channels open between the other members, so her loss would be the biggest blow to them, and the copycat I just want to see win, and besides he's against the one person who'd be the least bit phased by those tactic.

 

I wouldn't mind seeing Rindou lose simply because I'd like to see her reaction, she's probably the most confident from all the chefs at the school, with the skills to back it up. So it would be interesting to see how her loss would be written.

 

This manga's been a bit stale this past few weeks, hopefully things pick up soon, I don't think this arc is going as well as the Mangaka and publishers hoped...then again the introduction of Azami and his regime as a whole feels like it was mistake that the manga might not recover from. I wonder if it's affected volume sales.

 

Mmm I read somewhere (forgot where though so don't hold me to it) that Yuto Tsukuda acknowledges that the current arc is not  well received by the fans and the series IS doing poorly currently because of it, but he states the plot is important to the overall story in the future which is why he is continuing it, depite the setback. How or why, we will see, if the story's quality goes up and if this fits well in the long term narrative, I hope. :ermm:

 

And on the subject of Rindo losing I think she will just laugh it off because she essentially seems to be a female Soma/Joichirou, and will get revenge down the line :smile: But I am most hyped about her match with Tosuke because that seems to be the most evenly matched contest so far. Tsukasa versus Terunori I'm on the fence about. On the one hand Tsukasa winning would be the most natural and obvious result, biu on the other hand it would kind of neuter the message about how teamwork is what would beat central as it is STILL  about who is the superior chef in that regard and that kind of sells out that the rebels will win because "MC plot armor". :mellow: But if Terunori wins, then it diminishes Tsukasa's rep as the first seat, so yeah that decision is a shoot yourself in the foot either way scenario in particular


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 05:23 AM

I think the problem is the Azami completely changed the game. Before all the challenges were imposed by the school or another person but either way were fair yet deeply personal in how they were handled. What I mean is that before Azami came along the school would have an event where it would effect all the student and all the students had the same rules apply to them and the same chance at winning, then we would see how the characters we were watching were handling it in their own way. Or A person would challenge another person with their skills being put to the test -now normally it was souma being challenged by someone- normally one side would have a clear disadvantage (in skill, experience or outright sabotage), and then we would watch how they overcame that.

 

Now we are dealing with a systematical challenges where it is Souma and his friends versus everyone else that is now part of what might as well be faceless system that's now in charge of the school. Azami has absolute power in the school which he could use to wipe out Souma and his friends in an instant if he wanted to, but instead so the main characters chance to win he amuses himself and plays with them. Also in order for Souma to win he must defeat the ten most elite students in the school. Which means by the end of this arc he will be one of the best chief in this school and nothing and no one can really challenge him afterwards.

 

Then after this arc, the game will change again to Souma and his friends now ruling the school and having all the power then story will have to focus on how they wield it. Unless for some reason he and the other reject the ten seats, which makes no sense.


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 12:32 PM

I think the problem is the Azami completely changed the game. Before all the challenges were imposed by the school or another person but either way were fair yet deeply personal in how they were handled. What I mean is that before Azami came along the school would have an event where it would effect all the student and all the students had the same rules apply to them and the same chance at winning, then we would see how the characters we were watching were handling it in their own way. Or A person would challenge another person with their skills being put to the test -now normally it was souma being challenged by someone- normally one side would have a clear disadvantage (in skill, experience or outright sabotage), and then we would watch how they overcame that.

 

Now we are dealing with a systematical challenges where it is Souma and his friends versus everyone else that is now part of what might as well be faceless system that's now in charge of the school. Azami has absolute power in the school which he could use to wipe out Souma and his friends in an instant if he wanted to, but instead so the main characters chance to win he amuses himself and plays with them. Also in order for Souma to win he must defeat the ten most elite students in the school. Which means by the end of this arc he will be one of the best chief in this school and nothing and no one can really challenge him afterwards.

 

Then after this arc, the game will change again to Souma and his friends now ruling the school and having all the power then story will have to focus on how they wield it. Unless for some reason he and the other reject the ten seats, which makes no sense.

 

Note: My lost comment I meant to write I don't want to see win not win. Though he is being built up as a ultimate support character so him winning might be the best option for the message of the manga.

 

Yeah Azami changed the playing field too much, it's like when Aizen was bought into the battle field in Bleach, he was too OP, and when he was defeated the manga had to do a hard reset on Ichigo's powers to move forward, but even then the manga never recovered from that battle.

 

By essentially going for this Battle Royale against the elite, with the school careers of all the rebels and Jouchirou's future on the line, they can't even go for a loss for the rebels, as the stakes are too high, before I thought if Souma and a couple of others were the only ones at risk, I could see them being being expelled, then going on a year long training trip, maybe even joining a smaller rival school) then coming back to take back control, but the way it stands, it would be a hard sell, I don't think the fans would react well to having the entire Star Dorm expelled along with the sympathizers.

 

Though if Jouchirou's career wasn't on the line, I could see the rebels with Jouchirou, Souzaemon and Gin breaking off and starting their own school and then coming back stronger to compete, but Joucirou being part of the bet makes me think it's an unlikely route.


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 10:42 PM

This chapter shows the problem again. Saitou is gives Sabaru his blade to use to cut his tuna so their food would be equal. Again Saitou is suppose to be a villain that is part of central that has supreme power in the school and has the skills to crush Sabaru easily. Yet to amuse himself; he levels the playing field. This would be fine before Azami. But now it just lower the threat level of the antagonist again because they are to busy kittening around to be an actual threat.


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 11:24 PM

This chapter actually makes you wonder how Azami managed to convince Saitou of the new regime? He sounds like a man who would put honour and loyalty above all else, so seeing him go against the school in such a way feels like it would go against his Bushido code of conduct.

 

The more you find out about them the less convincing it feels about Azami recruiting the Elite members of voting for someone like him, the first seat doesn't like confrontation, so Azami having them teach sounds like his worst nightmare, Rindou I can actually see voting for him for laughs, but also someone who would quickly regret her decision once she finds out what Azami plans for the school specially how restrictive he is being, The only ones I could see being convinced is Eizen, Nene and even Kuga, as he does come across as a bit of a hot head and a spoilt brat, so he could be convinced if he was convinced it would help him get the number one seat.

 

Also I just want to say this double page might just give me nightmares tonight,

https://bato.to/read...d2dd62abfa4c_17

 

I am a bit confused by this chapter, I thought after his defeat against Souma, Subaru would walk his own path, taking what he learnt from his mimic style and evolve into creating his own style, one that took in all the knowledge he's gained, instead he's doubled down on his mimic ability, so unless we see something new from him next week, I don't see any difference in him, expect he's more respectful of his opponents.


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