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Posted 19 January 2020 - 01:46 AM

I wonder how it would have turn out if Kishi have made NS canon instead.


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Posted 19 January 2020 - 02:27 AM

I wonder how it would have turn out if Kishi have made NS canon instead.

 

Much better than what we did get, that's for damn sure!



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Posted 19 January 2020 - 02:46 AM

I wonder how it would have turn out if Kishi have made NS canon instead.

 

 

 

Much better than what we did get, that's for damn sure!

Everything would be in tact. No character assassinations, all themes are in place and the franchise would be fine, despite some stuff here and there. All you could hear in the background are the naysayers (NH/SS fans, Hinata radical fans, etc.) will be whining on why Hinata was not with Naruto and complaining still about Sakura.


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Posted 19 January 2020 - 04:25 AM

Everything would be in tact. No character assassinations, all themes are in place and the franchise would be fine, despite some stuff here and there. All you could hear in the background are the naysayers (NH/SS fans, Hinata radical fans, etc.) will be whining on why Hinata was not with Naruto and complaining still about Sakura.


No doubt they have nothing better to do but that it's sad there lives are probably so pathetic.

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Posted 20 January 2020 - 07:17 AM

No doubt they have nothing better to do but that it's sad there lives are probably so pathetic.

 

Mostly because of fanaticism and thinking Hinata being moe gives her advantage, even if it isn't as moe as some girls in anime can be.



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Posted 20 January 2020 - 11:56 AM

Mostly because of fanaticism and thinking Hinata being moe gives her advantage, even if it isn't as moe as some girls in anime can be.


No doubt which is really sad.

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Posted 20 January 2020 - 11:58 AM

I wonder how it would have turn out if Kishi have made NS canon instead.

 

This broken story bollocks wouldn't have existed at least. But again I digress, For us to actually get a proper ending for Naruto it must not only end with NaruSaku but the entire notion of a sequel must be pulled by the, period. No sequel would exist that would NOT destroy the themes of Naruto since Naruto is ninja jesus and the whole conflict is pointless debacle as  terrible and hypocritical as it was, because by those very notions Naruto has to achieve world peace so no conflict should even occur afterward. NaruSaku need not happen to make the ending better admittedly but let's not kid our selves Naruto HAD NO OTHER LOVE INTEREST for the entire story. Hinata was not given anything to give her self off as such except for her infatuation with the MC but that is it. Point being, The way Naruto was written guaranteed that Naruto's story ending would be it's high note and nothing should occur after because of the finality sort of tone to Naruto's "chosen one" role. To go beyond that would spit on the prophecy regarding him in all manner 


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Posted 21 January 2020 - 07:04 AM

 

This broken story bollocks wouldn't have existed at least. But again I digress, For us to actually get a proper ending for Naruto it must not only end with NaruSaku but the entire notion of a sequel must be plug pulled, period. No sequel would exist that would NOT destroy the themes of Naruto since Naruto is ninja jesus and the whole conflict is pointless debacle as  terrible and hypocritical as it was, because by those very notions Naruto has to achieve world peace so no conflict should even occur afterward. NaruSaku need not happen to make the ending better admittedly but let's not kid our selves Naruto HAD NO OTHER LOVE INTEREST for the entire story. Hinata was not given anything to give her self off as such except for her infatuation with the MC but that is it. Point being, The way Naruto was written guaranteed that Naruto's story ending would be it's high note and nothing should occur after because of the finality sort of tone to Naruto's "chosen one" role. To go beyond that would spit on the prophecy regarding him in all manner 

 

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 07:28 PM

I'm hoping to join the next podcast.

 

 

I would like to join sometime.

 

 

 

I would too if I can figure out how my current tower can work with my mic.

I would love to have a podcast with you guys. We will figure something out and decide what kind of podcast you guys want to do. Whether it be a Naruto one or something else.
 

 

 

This broken story bollocks wouldn't have existed at least. But again I digress, For us to actually get a proper ending for Naruto it must not only end with NaruSaku but the entire notion of a sequel must be plug pulled, period. No sequel would exist that would NOT destroy the themes of Naruto since Naruto is ninja jesus and the whole conflict is pointless debacle as  terrible and hypocritical as it was, because by those very notions Naruto has to achieve world peace so no conflict should even occur afterward. NaruSaku need not happen to make the ending better admittedly but let's not kid our selves Naruto HAD NO OTHER LOVE INTEREST for the entire story. Hinata was not given anything to give her self off as such except for her infatuation with the MC but that is it. Point being, The way Naruto was written guaranteed that Naruto's story ending would be it's high note and nothing should occur after because of the finality sort of tone to Naruto's "chosen one" role. To go beyond that would spit on the prophecy regarding him in all manner 


I agree, but one thing I would add. I would like a Minato Gaiden showcasing his life more and Kushina's. So maybe a prequel? Also, I don't think I would mind a sequel, but it has to be a one off and NOT an entire series like you said.

Like, a movie or a short story and that's it. That is all would be needed.

 









 


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Posted 22 January 2020 - 03:51 AM

I agree, but one thing I would add. I would like a Minato Gaiden showcasing his life more and Kushina's. So maybe a prequel? Also, I don't think I would mind a sequel, but it has to be a one off and NOT an entire series like you said.

Like, a movie or a short story and that's it. That is all would be needed.

 

Yeah! That'd be awesome!



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Posted 22 January 2020 - 04:01 AM

Yep. 

 

 

I'm hoping to join the next podcast.

 

 

I would like to join sometime.

 

 

 

I'd be totally down for doing another podcast with you guys included because man the one I did with James, 4life, BlueStar, and Steve was really special for me since it was like a reunion of sorts after so long.   We used this streaming service called Streamyard which is completely free the only thing is that it only limits the amount of people to six unlike Google+ where you could invite I think what like 8 to 9 people as far as I remember. So it would kind be like a first come first serve if we're doing the podcast on my end of the spectrum. 

 

 

Other than that, like I said it would be exciting having you guys too. 

 

 

Speaking of podcasts I've got a couple podcasts regarding Naruto that have come to mind since we did that Part 1 vs Part 2 Podcast back in September.

 

 

The first one would be a podcast pertaining to Road to Ninja.   

 

 

 

The second would be what we mentioned in the previous podcast, regarding the fillers. 

 

 

Not sure exactly which one I wanna go for cause I'm still working out the kinks on the podcast structure, but I'll announce it once one of them is settled.   


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Posted 22 January 2020 - 04:39 AM

I would love to have a podcast with you guys. We will figure something out and decide what kind of podcast you guys want to do. Whether it be a Naruto one or something else.
 
 


I agree, but one thing I would add. I would like a Minato Gaiden showcasing his life more and Kushina's. So maybe a prequel? Also, I don't think I would mind a sequel, but it has to be a one off and NOT an entire series like you said.
Like, a movie or a short story and that's it. That is all would be needed.

 thanks I'd love to join but I need a mic , what kind should I get cause money will tight for me this year
 

I'd be totally down for doing another podcast with you guys included because man the one I did with James, 4life, BlueStar, and Steve was really special for me since it was like a reunion of sorts after so long.   We used this streaming service called Streamyard which is completely free the only thing is that it only limits the amount of people to six unlike Google+ where you could invite I think what like 8 to 9 people as far as I remember. So it would kind be like a first come first serve if we're doing the podcast on my end of the spectrum. 
 
 
Other than that, like I said it would be exciting having you guys too. 
 
 
Speaking of podcasts I've got a couple podcasts regarding Naruto that have come to mind since we did that Part 1 vs Part 2 Podcast back in September.
 
 
The first one would be a podcast pertaining to Road to Ninja.   
 
 
 
The second would be what we mentioned in the previous podcast, regarding the fillers. 
 
 
Not sure exactly which one I wanna go for cause I'm still working out the kinks on the podcast structure, but I'll announce it once one of them is settled.

I'd love to join one on the last cause I've got words for that
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Posted 22 January 2020 - 04:45 AM

I would like to start a SoKai podcast for us Kingdom Hearts fans someday.

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Posted 22 January 2020 - 07:41 PM

 

 

 

 

I would love to have a podcast with you guys. We will figure something out and decide what kind of podcast you guys want to do. Whether it be a Naruto one or something else.
 

 

I agree, but one thing I would add. I would like a Minato Gaiden showcasing his life more and Kushina's. So maybe a prequel? Also, I don't think I would mind a sequel, but it has to be a one off and NOT an entire series like you said.

Like, a movie or a short story and that's it. That is all would be needed.


 








 

 

This is true I guess to clarify if a sequel WERE to be made it would be a pretty mundane slice of life type of  sequel that would not involve ninjas or the ninja system if Naruto were to achieve his destined role. That or at least have all the countries unified and if anything the system still exists to deal with threats that exist outside of the setting. I guess that is where the aliens come in. Never the less, the way that Boruto :yucky:  is continuing the story makes Naruto look like a hypocrite and his destiny is not worth kittening SH*BEEP*


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Posted 22 January 2020 - 10:42 PM

I would like to start a SoKai podcast for us Kingdom Hearts fans someday.

I'd join that in a heart beat.
Oh you know the ending of 3 with xehanort and eraqus I got the feeling they got that from hashirma and madara when they finally died after kaguya was sealed.

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Posted 24 January 2020 - 02:21 PM

 

This is true I guess to clarify if a sequel WERE to be made it would be a pretty mundane slice of life type of  sequel that would not involve ninjas or the ninja system if Naruto were to achieve his destined role. That or at least have all the countries unified and if anything the system still exists to deal with threats that exist outside of the setting. I guess that is where the aliens come in. Never the less, the way that Boruto :yucky:  is continuing the story makes Naruto look like a hypocrite and his destiny is not worth kittening SH*BEEP*

I think pulling Kaguya so early in the end was its downfall. She should have been a long movie villain that the Uzumaki family had to defeat. Imagine Naruto, Sakura, Shinachiku, and Hanami joining as a family to defeat Kaguya. Maybe even have Sasuke's family join in too. You can even have Naruto, Sakura, and Sasuke have a moment of "Stand back, kids. Let us show you that your parents are not to be trifled with."

Kaguya and Toneri should have been the big bosses with maybe the kids taking on Toneri and Team 7 taking on Kaguya. This way you can show both the parents and kids being badasses. I don't know. Pulling basically the "God of Shinobi" right at the end of the manga was such a waste of potential. Kaguya should have been the big bad in the movie with Toneri trying to revive her and Madara the big bad of the manga.

It would have been perfect. No romance drama BS with Toneri falling for Hinata out of nowhere. Actually make Toneri a REAL villain.

You could also do like side stories for the side characters like Rock Lee, Ten-Ten, and such and taken it anywhere.

So many possibilities, and infinite world he could have made, and like Toriyama, Kishimoto just blows his entire load in a single moment.

All because "He didn't know how Madara should be defeated"


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Posted 24 January 2020 - 04:40 PM

I think pulling Kaguya so early in the end was its downfall. She should have been a long movie villain that the Uzumaki family had to defeat. Imagine Naruto, Sakura, Shinachiku, and Hanami joining as a family to defeat Kaguya. Maybe even have Sasuke's family join in too. You can even have Naruto, Sakura, and Sasuke have a moment of "Stand back, kids. Let us show you that your parents are not to be trifled with."
Kaguya and Toneri should have been the big bosses with maybe the kids taking on Toneri and Team 7 taking on Kaguya. This way you can show both the parents and kids being badasses. I don't know. Pulling basically the "God of Shinobi" right at the end of the manga was such a waste of potential. Kaguya should have been the big bad in the movie with Toneri trying to revive her and Madara the big bad of the manga.
It would have been perfect. No romance drama BS with Toneri falling for Hinata out of nowhere. Actually make Toneri a REAL villain.
You could also do like side stories for the side characters like Rock Lee, Ten-Ten, and such and taken it anywhere.
So many possibilities, and infinite world he could have made, and like Toriyama, Kishimoto just blows his entire load in a single moment.
All because "He didn't know how Madara should be defeated"

That'd be cool
An idea I had with kaguya have her be like Roberts from black flag being a sage and kaguya is reborn as Hinata and she's the villain.

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Posted 24 January 2020 - 06:58 PM

I think pulling Kaguya so early in the end was its downfall. She should have been a long movie villain that the Uzumaki family had to defeat. Imagine Naruto, Sakura, Shinachiku, and Hanami joining as a family to defeat Kaguya. Maybe even have Sasuke's family join in too. You can even have Naruto, Sakura, and Sasuke have a moment of "Stand back, kids. Let us show you that your parents are not to be trifled with."

Kaguya and Toneri should have been the big bosses with maybe the kids taking on Toneri and Team 7 taking on Kaguya. This way you can show both the parents and kids being badasses. I don't know. Pulling basically the "God of Shinobi" right at the end of the manga was such a waste of potential. Kaguya should have been the big bad in the movie with Toneri trying to revive her and Madara the big bad of the manga.

It would have been perfect. No romance drama BS with Toneri falling for Hinata out of nowhere. Actually make Toneri a REAL villain.

You could also do like side stories for the side characters like Rock Lee, Ten-Ten, and such and taken it anywhere.

So many possibilities, and infinite world he could have made, and like Toriyama, Kishimoto just blows his entire load in a single moment.
 

Dude, I would so watch that instead of the BS we had.

 

 

All because "He didn't know how Madara should be defeated"

 

I said it before and I said again, Masashi should had introduced a master sealer-type character OR had Naruto learn some advance fuinjutsu ala Jiraiya to further expand his ninja skills. That way, while Madara was indeed a threat, there is an actual and legitimate way to defeat him.


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Posted 24 January 2020 - 08:10 PM

Ive also said in the past that Madara being sealed and sasuke and narutos fight should have been the end of the series

 

Kaguya and Toneri should have been the bosses of the last movie with Naruto Sakura and Sasuke sealing her in the end and leading to Naruto and Sakuras wedding

 

A sequel series would be possible with Shinachiku and Hanami and Sasuke and karins kid


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