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#381 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 03:44 PM

Nope http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/676/8 clearly shows Sasuke aiming for Madara top right panel, only to be blocked by the second shadow Marada next panel.

Looking at that perspective, i guess that you could be right, it's possible that Sakura came with that conclusion that Sasuke didnt cared about her because Sasuke didnt looked at her neither asked if she was ok.

I mean if Sasuke was going to cut her in half i'm sure that Naruto would have reacted, it's weird that he didnt.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 03:47 PM

It's always blow up the moon

Poor moon. Ever since Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask, no body's cared about it :(



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Posted 14 May 2014 - 03:47 PM

Am I the only one who is starting to think this is worse than the land of iron, I mean for christs sake, this time they are on the same side, the only thing worse than killing a former ally is doing it to a current one for an opportunity attack.

 

No seriously, Sasuke had no regard for her safety, she is slowly starting to see that he isn't who she thought he was and that change just continues, literally this is a continuation of the notion that her feelings changed. Naruto came to rescue her, Sasuke only wanted to cleave into Madara, even if he had to go through Sakura.
 

Literally I am just waiting on that sasuke acts like a jerk again when his plan comes into action, no seriously I am going to wait to see how SS fans argue how its somehow beneficial or hinting SS if that event turns out to be something sinister that it ends up harming naruto himself.

 

Nope you are not the only one, No one can justify Sasuke's actions here, whether he was going to cut through her or not he never once made an attempt to save her, he was willing to let her die, and it's not like he knew what Sakura opening her seal meant. He saw Sakura as a tool, she created a opening so make the best of it, and I'm not sure if anyone bought this up, but the way Madara stabbed her was almost identical to the way Sasuke was stabbed, so he would have known that attack was fatal, afterall the same attack almost killed him.

 

http://www.mangapand...m/naruto/661/20

http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/676/8

 

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 03:47 PM

You know, it's a shame that Sakura was like giving a try to see if Sasuke can at least show some trust. It only proves her point. Whatever Kishi plans to do, it's almost here. I feel like it's truly building up something that has started since 540 and it only gets worse. What's also odd is NS is really getting a bigger momentum and not just saying because of this chapter. It's just something that we still got to keep waiting. Again, as one user said, this is the main event: NS vs. SS.

I also noticed that Sasuke was already heading to action as Naruto is just gasping for air that his girlfriend got stabbed. Hm...what is Kishi thinking...

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 03:48 PM

What would be awesome is that if Sakura is in the dream and notices something off - then she would be the one the break the genjutsu ;)

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 03:48 PM

I somewhat agree with Pepsi. Sakura didn't know about Sasuke and we don't know where he was aiming. It looked like at Sakura, could have been Madara, or he was aiming for a shadow. Point is Sakura finally sees Sasuke could not care less about her and it's way past her time to move on.


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 03:50 PM

Honestly with this sasuke crap, I really had a stupid theory that if all but naruto and sasuke fall under the eye of the moon plan or we have them under it for a short time and team 7 (or naruto and sasuke at least) break out of it, wouldn't we see something with whats really in their hearts and if we get something on Sakura, what if Sasuke isn't portrayed in her heart? That would be the ultimate death of SS, that if Sakura's inner world didnt involve sasuke, the one she wanted then what would they say then? If there was no "good" part 2 sasuke in her own world if they fall under the genjutsu for a time? That would be the end of that and SS would just be over for real.



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Posted 14 May 2014 - 03:51 PM

Looking at that perspective, i guess that you could be right, it's possible that Sakura came with that conclusion that Sasuke didnt cared about her because Sasuke didnt looked at her neither asked if she was ok.

I mean if Sasuke was going to cut her in half i'm sure that Naruto would have reacted, it's weird that he didnt.

Actually his sword comes bellow Sakura right after Naruto lifts her up and in that panel his focus is on the real Madara , Also why Naruto suddenly felt the need to speed up  ?


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 03:57 PM

Honestly with this sasuke crap, I really had a stupid theory that if all but naruto and sasuke fall under the eye of the moon plan or we have them under it for a short time and team 7 (or naruto and sasuke at least) break out of it, wouldn't we see something with whats really in their hearts and if we get something on Sakura, what if Sasuke isn't portrayed in her heart? That would be the ultimate death of SS, that if Sakura's inner world didnt involve sasuke, the one she wanted then what would they say then? If there was no "good" part 2 sasuke in her own world if they fall under the genjutsu for a time? That would be the end of that and SS would just be over for real.

The problem with Sasuke and Naruto is, Kishi doesn't want us to really know what's going on with them for as long as possible. There is a 50/50% chance we will see their desires, but this has to have something to do with Sakura and her feelings at the least.


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 04:02 PM

I agree with Pepsi. Sakura didn't knowaboutSasuke and we don't know where he was aiming. It looked like at Sakura, could have been Madara, or he was aiming for a shadow. Point is Sakura finally sees Sasuke could not care less about her and it's way past her time to move on.

This is the closest you can get: teaming up. This one is becoming more clear. It seems like Kishi is really about to drop a big bomb. I don't know if it's pairing related. It is something that's for sure. I should do something for this FC. I'm off to take my test.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 04:04 PM

Guess this means that Obito got both of his eyes back now. I wonder if Madara's Rinnegan will gain the Sharingan-like tomoe in each eye in addition to Byakugan-like viens now. That would make a great way to reference the Three Great Dojutsu, by combining them to be one incredibly over-powered set of eyes.

 

I hope that we get to see more of Naruto's Nature Transformation abilities in future chapters. Assuming that there would be actual fighting that is. I still theorize that while Sasuke got access to all eye techniques in the world, Naruto has access to all Nature Transformations, including Kekkei Tota like Dust Release.

 

I can imagine a House of M scenario happening. Maybe even some elements of that crossover where Darkseid finally got that Anti-Life equation. Madara would probably use the Infinite Tsukuyomi to use all the people affected by his Genjutsu as his personal army. 



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Posted 14 May 2014 - 04:06 PM

it's pretty clear to me here.

 

Sakura was blocked by a limbo madara clone. Sasuke seen an opening here and tried to take this at his own advantage. But he has been stopped suddenly by another limbo madara clone at his right side. While Naruto rescued Sakura from the limbo madara clone who was blocking her...

 

Why didn't Naruto get angry at Sasuke? I dunno, maybe he's totally focused on madara's clones.


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 04:07 PM

LOL @ the difference in translation this week in MP and MS/

 

http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/676/5

http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/676/6

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http://readms.com/r/naruto/676/2373/7

 

Mangapanda talks about her catching up to them,  and then next page I won''t fall behind again, which makes sense..Mangastream says she's finally managed to bring the two together, and then next page, I won't let them fall apart again, I bet NaruSasu fans collapsed from excitement at MS's translation...seriously I how can two translations be so different, I want to beleive Mangastreams translation more because that actually lends strongly to what I've thought for a while now and that is Sakura doesn't want to bring Sasuke back for herself but for Naruto, she wants to reunite Naruto with his brother so he wouldn't be troubled so much by it. Ultimately it shows how much she cares for Naruto and thinks about him first before she thinks about herself.

 

Yeah I agree with you there is a big difference in translation for this page http://readms.com/r/naruto/676/2373/7

The first top panel is not translated the same at all.

I would like to know the true words.

 

 

 

GET OVER IT, SAKURA.  :hm:

 

You should've known Sasuke didn't care about you when he tried to make a peg dispenser out of your ass! You're intelligent medicinally, but when it comes to actual romance, Kishimoto makes you out to be a jackass. 

 

Seriously, love makes a fool out of this girl.

 

No no just as Naruto she will never abandon her friend that's all.

Naruto is just like that.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 04:09 PM

I don't really care for Sakura now noticing Sasuke doesn't care about her. I just wanted to see her fight and she was made to look foolish and there's nothing the anti-Sakura fans love more. For months I've been seeing the same bashing comments at the top of the mangastream comments and every other forum I go to without break. I'm sorry I can't accept this as a good chapter for Sakura. Kishi's now twice made a case about teamwork then left Sakura behind. The first was when Sasuke first arrived. He really could have done something better for her this chapter. She got the Sai treatment.

 

Edit: Also, I had a feeling Obito would die before making a Rin parallel. Kishi was deliberately neglecting it. He isn't dead quite yet but it's looking like it won't happen at all, just as I predicted.


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 04:13 PM

^ do you know that ant sakura fans will bash her forever, no matter what badass thing she can do?

 

Always i liked her in this chapter, remember that she isn't a semi god like Naruto and Sasuke are.... She's just a normal ninja, with a great physical strenght. She went ahead because she knew that her byakugou give her a provisional immortality.


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 04:16 PM

Wait a moment.....Reading this chapter for the sixth time made me think of another possibility.....

Could it be possible that Sasuke was trying to attack one of the Rinbo that had Sakura? Naruto had to jump in to protect her, not because of Sasuke, but because he sensed a second Rinbo, other than the one Sasuke tried to attack. Sakura was shocked because she doesn't know about the Rinbo, and therefore thought that Sasuke tried to slash her. Where Sasuke tried to slash was around Madara's stomach, and it's possible that it wouldn't have reached Sakura. It also makes sense with the conversation right afterwards between Naruto and Sasuke that there are other Rinbos around. (The reason I thought up of this was because I thought it was uncharacteristic of Naruto to continue talking about the enemies powers with a guy who tried to slash Sakura. I would think that he'd get angry.)

It took a moment later to move for Naruto because he was stunned and probably worried. His emotions might have delayed him. Whereas Sasuke doesn't really have such emotional delays so when he saw what Sakura did, he just took the chance.

Of course this doesn't credit SasuSaku in anyway. I'm not going to brush off this possible scenario unless proven wrong.

 

Well... maybe but IMO that's not clearly shown to us... maybe...

But as you said, it doesn't favour SS either because only Naruto cared about Sakura.

 

IMO the panels shows that Naruto is reacting to Sasuke's determination to hit with his sword.

Sasuke did not hesitate a second, and the panel shows that Sasuke was right behind Sakura. It doesn't seem to have a shadow between Sasuke and Sakura...

 

 

But... maybe what you said is possible.


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 04:16 PM

Here is a middle ground for everyone.

No matter what you believe Sasuke was about to do, the scenes supports both scenarios. I can actually believe Kishi made it be that you can have either thought about what really was going to happen and both would make sense. The context of the scene doesn't change. Sasuke still cares little about his own team's safety or his team for that matter.

Either or, Sasuke is still Sasuke so you can believe in one or the other and it would still make sense. The angles can support both. Sasuke attacking from behind Sakura can support both him attempting to use Sakura as a meat shield AND it also supports Sasuke just slashing wildly to get to his target regardless of collateral damage or friendly fire.

It's not the first time Sasuke has used his teammates in such a way and it is also not the first time Sasuke acted wildly not caring about the damage hes causes around him because it was an open opportunity.

 

Let's also not forget that Sasuke could have taken a different angle. Like I said, why not come from the side and slash away from Sakura like attacking the clones limbs? No, he doesn't even attempt that and don't tell me Sasuke is not smart enough to figure that out.

We also don't see what the clones are doing, so it could be anything.


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 04:27 PM

I seriously hope that one shot is not all Sakura gets to do. It was cool seeing her release the Byakugou and press through her fear to take the initiative against Madara, but rushing in the way she did was reckless so I can see why that would bother some people.

 

I don't think Sakura was surprised that Sasuke doesn't appear to care about her as much as she was saddened by it. She cares about Sasuke, even if she's no longer in love with him, and seeing the evidence of his apathy towards her even while they are fighting as comrades hurts her deeply. Honestly, why are people actually upset at her for that? I found her reaction understandable, given the circumstances. Sasuke may not be worth her tears, but Sakura is a caring and forgiving person and she's always going to care about Sasuke whether he deserves it or not.

 

I wish Naruto would call Sasuke out on the fact that he would have sliced right through Sakura had Naruto not pulled her out of the way, though he probably won't. They are "great friends" after all. Naruto's leniency toward Sasuke is really difficult to stomach. :sick: He's not even willing to acknowledge that Sasuke doesn't care; at least Sakura can see that much.

 

I'm curious to see how Kishimoto will handle the Infinite Tsukuyomi. It could be interesting but hopefully it won't become something that drags on too long.



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Posted 14 May 2014 - 04:27 PM

Yeah, I feel like if Sasuke was attacking a clone it would be clear. But it is a possibility. And either way Sasuke looks like a kitten, because he wasn't concerned about her at all. He didn't ask her if she was okay or anything, not even sparing a glance her way.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 04:29 PM

Here is a middle ground for everyone.

No matter what you believe Sasuke was about to do, the scenes supports both scenarios. I can actually believe Kishi made it be that you can have either thought about what really was going to happen and both would make sense. The context of the scene doesn't change. Sasuke still cares little about his own team's safety or his team for that matter.

Either or, Sasuke is still Sasuke so you can believe in one or the other and it would still make sense. The angles can support both. Sasuke attacking from behind Sakura can support both him attempting to use Sakura as a meat shield AND it also supports Sasuke just slashing wildly to get to his target regardless of collateral damage or friendly fire.

It's not the first time Sasuke has used his teammates in such a way and it is also not the first time Sasuke acted wildly not caring about the damage hes causes around him because it was an open opportunity.

 

Let's also not forget that Sasuke could have taken a different angle. Like I said, why not come from the side and slash away from Sakura like attacking the clones limbs? No, he doesn't even attempt that and don't tell me Sasuke is not smart enough to figure that out.

We also don't see what the clones are doing, so it could be anything.

While i agree with what you are suggesting but the thing is we see in the panel that he already had his Rinengan activated so if the limbos from the side were already there he would have seen them , but the scene looks like the other limbos came out of nowhere and blocked him before he slashed the real Madara , Sakura and the limbo that was blocking Sakura , it makes no sense for him to attack straight forward and get suddenly blocked by the limbos if they were already there and then in the next panel to say that there are more of them  .


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