Mysoginists? Probably not, the Naruto fandom is just full of idiots with doubles standards which is MUCH worse in a sense. I mean you can have morals and standards regarding anything but you can just as easily subvert and hypocritically ignore your beliefs, morals, and standards to justify your reasoning for something else. Anyone has potentially done that at some point in their lives. For instance, like you said, How many NH and SS fans ship other characters with tsunderes that are much worse than Sakura? In fact I believe that some other members here can confirm that some NH fans or Sakura haters LOVE pairing Ichigo with Rukia for instance. It's really laughable honestly.
Anyway, I can't discount misogynists as members of the NH fandom, but again it is more likely that they are just mostly individuals that enjoy using one sort of logic for one thing, but for any thing else that same logic does not apply because they either can't or don't want to think about it.
Yeah, I know, but isn't that a trip?
I really wonder how if these NH and SS pro-enders are say SJWs or pro-equality or what you want to call it have a problem with women being portrayed in video games that are often objectified, but have no problem with characters like Hinata who are portrayed being this this defined by who they marry and how their accomplishements are defined not by what she does for herself to make herself stronger, but how she only does things because she feels it is a benefit to her man?
(I could look at Sakura as well, but like I keep saying, I find her behavior to be a product of Hinata getting her way and not something that was intended from the get go like many believe it is. I honestly believe Sakura was supposed to get over Sasuke, but because NH had to be canon and the only way to get Sakura out of the picture is put her with Sasuke is the reason why I don't count it. Remember, it is not that Sakura's behavior is sexist itself, but the fact that fans said that Sakura HAD to be with Sasuke is what makes her sexist. Her obsession is just a byproduct of it. Sakura was a strong independant woman for a time at leats until she was reduced to pairing fodder for NH.)
Like, why is Lara Croft consider thie demonizing of the female character even though she is strong, powerful, and can do things on her own, but Hinata who is highly sexuallized on purpose, who absolutly has no meaning beyond her love for a man, and can't stand on her own feet without Naruto saying so is all of a sudden seen as "Female perfection at its finest?"
This is why I put so much blame and heavy on Hinata because she has basically corrupted everything is means to be a woman. Whether she is real or fake, the fact that girls see her as "powerful" and "independant" is such a stupid thing. She is not powerful and independant because she couldn't be defined by anything other than "She is married to Naruto." Like, really? That is her defining trait? That is her biggest accomplishment?
To me, it is very selective. At least be consistent.
And I have seen many different types of women being portrayed, but none as shallow and disgusting as Hinata is. Look at a character by the name of Sun Seto in My Bride is a Mermaid. Sun says a line that men are the ship and the women is his harbor. Now many can take it different ways, but Sun makes it seem like it is the home he can return to. She can take care of him and love him and accept him where he can be safe and loved. It is not that Sun is treated poorly or thinks less of herself without a man. She just says that if men are the ship, then woman need to be the harbor they return to. Their home is basically where she is because that is how couples are. She doesn't say that woman are inferior or that men are the only ones that can do things and even shows that when she is treated poorly she doesn't like it and "bounces" as she put it. Nagasumi learns that he took her for granted and wanted to be there for her and love her. If anything, she is showing women are stronger than men because it is a safe haven for them.
You also have Lunar in the show who is always trying to one up Sun in many ways because she feels inferior, but in reality Lunar is just as good as Sun just by being herself and not trying to one up her. Sun is not looking to be the best, she just wants to be herself. Something even Nagasumi can understand and appreciate even when her parents try to make things worse or being overprotective. Sun shows cases that woman are independant and have their own feelings. Yeah, they can love a man and be happy, but they don't need a man to be strong and define them.
and Sun has cute or Moe type moments. Heck, the anime/manga even play with the "fanbase" trope of having Lunar and Sun have a fanbase at school fighting over them on who is better and poor Nagasumi gets attacked by both sides because the girls love him and not her "adoring fanbase." They see Nagasumi as a threat.
Again, this is why Hinata is such a bad character to me. When her fans have to defend her and she can't even stand on her own character...then something is wrong. Hinata is nothing without Naruto and that is really super sad.
Edited by James S Cassidy, 23 December 2017 - 06:38 PM.
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It's sort of hilarious lol
God, they could have just had Hinata knitting him a scarf because she heard he was thinking of visiting Iron country or w/e for a while. But nah we REALLY needed to see her getting jealous over a dead woman's last momento to her son 
