LuckyChi7

 

 

Akizuza (Akira x Shizuka) - Zom 100 

 

 

I've been seeing that series a lot,  is it any good?

I recall bringing this up to Lucky a few years ago when Shounen jump had that red string of fate manga. But, I have notice that WSJ manga tend to be more blatant with their couples since Naruto ended. Either, they were very clear who the love interest is, or they avoid that all together.
 
People worried about another mangaka becoming another Kishimoto need to remember that; they don't want to turn into another Kishimoto. Kishimoto was once the second of third biggest name in the shounen manga industry.
 
Now look at him.
 
He is a glorified editor/assistant in the sequel to his own manga, and its failing. We may not know fully what happened to Naruto, but it is likely an open secret and a warning in Shueisha; don't let you editors dictate something as important yet minor as the end parings.

Oh yeah,I do remember the manga youre referring to, I believe that was U-19. But what you said is accurate in that it does seem like Jump and Shueisha arent taking the same approach with what happened to Kishi. Simply to avoid the same circumstances that happened with Naruto, and honestly that is for the better.


I think it was also pretty telling that when Naruto ended, Kishi had no interest coming back to Naruto after he finished the series and wanted to try something different. Which we know the result of what happened once Samurai 8 got canceled.

Not to say that it was surprising because given how Naruto ended this was more or less something an expected outcome.

There's no implied mandate by Shueisha that requires that the shonen male protagonists must reciprocate the feelings of girls that show an interest in them, regardless of onscreen chemistry and compatibility. Nisekoi (which concluded two years after Naruto) ended with the MC getting with the lead heroine, in spite of the fact that his original love interest confessed to him first.  Komi-san had its MC reject someone from his love triangle in spite of confessing first.  MHA just killed off Himiko after she confessed to Midoriya before Ochako had her chance.  Even Mashle had its lead protagonist frequently reject his self-proclaimed fiancee to the very end.   I could go on.  
 
The closest thing to what you describe is in Demon Slayer with Tanjirou x Kanao, and the authoress at least establishes some rapport between them before they hooked up.  And Tanjirou had no other prospects.
 
I get that you're still jaded over Shuiesha and Pierrot influencing Kishimoto, but what happened in that title has not magically become law for all of their Shonen titles.  Especially when several newer authors seem to have taken Naruto as an object lesson to be much more prominent in establishing the main couples in a shonen title, so that there's no confusion or debate.  Black Clover and My Hero Academia being good examples.

Id totally have to agree with you on that Kagomaru, nothing is really dictated as law regarding shounen mc reciprocating female characters that are crushing on them.

Mha, and especially Black clover are great examples for sure in terms of establishing the main couples. Another great example that comes to my mind is Blue Box, its a sport manga in jump but you can clearly see that the mangaka is laying out the groundwork between its two main mcs.

Pretty sure there are more examples, but like you the influence from suiesha and Perriot is one thing Im not letting dictate on how things are gonna be portrayed for other series.

He's shown that he has a sex drive after being exposed to the Happiness Punch by Nami (and when Bentram disguised himself as Nami and did the same thing). Heck, Luffy himself even admitted to Boa that the only reason her powers didn't work on him is because she had pissed him off too much to think lewd thoughts.

Thats exactly what I was about to say too and they are all pretty valid reasons. Especially when it comes to Luffy and his attraction to woman. Along with the point you brought up about Boas power having no effect on Luffy. He was simply too annoyed to even have those kinda thoughts about her.

Two of these I wished to see canon, but didn't unfortunatley!

 

 

The other two  (NaLu, and LuNa) I can definitely see the horizon spreading for them both especially with NaLu! 

Nah, his self-insert has always been Naruto. He freely admits that Naruto's personality - and even his life experiences - are based on himself.  Sasuke, OTOH, was based upon on his twin, Seishi. Furthermore, he has made it empathically clear that he *hates* both SS and NH. He even stated that Sasuke and Sakura would likely divorce in the future, if he had his way. Never mind the fact that he's the one that heavily suggested in the Boruto Gaiden that Sarada is Sasuke and Karin's love child.  So, unless he and his wife's marital issues are far worse than we thought, the idea of Sasuke being his self-insert doesn't make any lick of sense. 

 

 

Definitely, and I think it's also especially telling when you look at the way HachiAnn (Hachimaru x Ann) was being built up in Samurai 8, and how they parallel off of NaruSaku in more occasions than one too. Especially when it pertains to the way certain scenes are paneled out in the manga. 

 

 

Like these: 

 

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Oda also said Masashi liked people like Sakura and he thought she was similar when he met her in real life. I've also heard Nami has some basis on Oda's wife irl but it's true it could be some fanservice since we don't have firsthand evidence. Kishi did write several versions of sakura (rin, tsunade, kushina) and complained in a interview people told him they didn't like sakura so he spent hours drawing a cover or something trying to improve her appearance. apart from Masashi seeming to prefer sakura (more than hinata) seeing as he has a sakura keychain at his drawing desk also his twin brother who's manga seem to have a lot of similarity with his brother's manga also have elements of ns. Masashi also said his wife helped write kushina and minato's story so it seems she was involved in some way (he also married her as he was working on naruto i can't see how she would have no knowledge of what he was doing)

That is actually pretty true, Oda did marry his wife who cosplayed as nami!

I thought it was pretty sweet. I think he was asked which character he relates to most, and his response was Luffy while for his wife he said nami.

Hell, Oda (whose friends with Kishimoto) pointed out that his wife looks like Sakura/Kushina.

I remember that, and it was just really to see what happened with the ending.

 

 

 

LuNa - One Piece 

 

 

 

I've going through a One Piece re-read recently over the last 16 days from the very beginning, and really the more and more I think about it.  LuNa/ LuNami really capture the essence and spirit of NaruSaku a lot, but I feel it's also amplified even more organically and subtly. I've also been a huge fan of their dynamic and chemistry for nearly 20 years now. So it really means a lot to dating it all the way back to 2004. 

I rewatched the third naruto movie and it was amazing and I especially liked in the end credits when naruto and sakura are sitting in a tree

i miss when naruto wasn't about aliens fighting humans and all this overpowered stuff

I honestly missed the whole aspect of the characters actually feeling like Ninjas.

Cause we just completely threw that out the window when we got like mid way through the timeskip.

 

 

All the parallels Minato and Kushina had with each other in the one-shot DEFINITELY reflects what was meant to be endgame!

 

 

You can say that again!  Everything was right there! 

After all these years I think people deep down know that NS was supposed to be but they prefered another shipping.  Like is been so long since the ending and people are still trheatened by a dead ship. Any NS content on tiktok that I see the comments are filled with:

 

"Soul mates (Best Friends)"

 

"Besties"

 

"They truly belongtogether as best friends"

 

And the scene could be explicitly Naruto saying he loves Sakura to Sai or the fmale ninja lmaooo9

 

 

Tell me about it there's just so much about Naruto and Sakura's bond that tells me that they were meant for so much more than just simply best friends. 

There were so many direction in which Sarada's time skip design could've gone, and this is the best they could come up with.

 

 

 

Let me show you a fan art that one of my friends showed me, and....

 

 

https://pbs.twimg.co...pg&name=900x900

 

 

 

 

it's astonishing how fans have a better imagination than the original artist. 

https://meo3.comick....YuHjdQfzc-m.jpg
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some similarity

 

 

 

 

Once in a while...I just gotta do this when thinking about it!

Ya know more emphasis on the comedy, showcase Naruto's good well nature with everyone - > yes Sasuke & Hinata included... Definitely a huge lack of overused flashback.

 

Think like this... Naruto wants to become Hokage

 

 

let's explore what steps he has to take as a shinobi to become hokage, and no kittening detours....  Yeah "Saving Sasuke" for post- timeskip plotline looking at you lol 

 

 

It could be a goal, but not the primary goal of Part 2. 

 

 

Expand more upon the world building of the ninja world. 

 

 

the history of Shinobi could be like an ancient myth that once existed, but no one's been able to prove of its existence. 

 

 

Let's take Gol D. Roger for example... he started an era on the day of his execution.

 

 

 

So in conjunction with that lets say use Tailed beasts for example.... say that their regarded as myths throughout the world, and only a rare select individuals know of their existence.

 

 

They wouldn't be exclusive to just near by villages.... in my opinion I feel that severely diminished the scope of the world of Naruto.

 

 

 

I think you could have it to where they can throughout each continent of the world, and they can be in locations that even anbu black ops would have a hard time knowing they actually existed. 

 

Essentially make them like mythological creatures no one has ever seen for centuries and centuries before Naruto's era.

 

 

 

Much like how Gol D. Roger ushered an into an new age of pirates in One Piece.....  

 

 

 

The night The Nine Tails attacked the Leaf Village in that sense could kickstart a new era of Shinobi in search of these Mythological creatures. 

 

 

 

 

I'll take it a step further,.... The 5 great nations...  we visit Sand village for example, but instead of just getting a brief overview... we actually see how people live their lifestyle, their culture, and how they differ from The Leaf Village. 

 

You could do the same thing with the Stone,  Cloud, and Mist Village too. 

 

 

 

You explore how distinct the shinobi are in each village. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Something along those lines.