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[James S Cassidy]

You do, mainly because you probably paid for more Naruto products then they will every pay for Naruto or Boruto products.

Then why wasn't NS canon? If we had so much power how did NH happen?

[Phantom_999]

WE DID NOT THINK  NH's toxic fandom would be that immperessionable to Kishimoto or the executives controlling Naruto. WE THOUGHT WRONG -___-

[VanitasDS76491]

WE DID NOT THINK  NH's toxic fandom would be that immperessionable to Kishimoto or the executives controlling Naruto. WE THOUGHT WRONG -___-

Thanks swayer you kittening assmunch you ruined naruto.

[Gravenimage]

Thanks swayer you kittening assmunch you ruined naruto.

 

Don't forget ForHinataworld.

[Azor Ahai]

WE DID NOT THINK  NH's toxic fandom would be that immperessionable to Kishimoto or the executives controlling Naruto. WE THOUGHT WRONG -___-

 

Meh...who cares

 

Nothing of high value was lost...Naruto was becoming trashy even before the ending.

[Phantom_999]

Oh I don't. I was merely explaining how much power actual fans of the story actually had, we just decided to not be little kittens about it and let Kishimoto write his story . AND HOW NAIVE were we? to think that Kishimoto had the integrity to stick up for his story to the end? but in retro spect, it was GOOD that we suffered then so that we don't suffer now. IT IS the biased greedy, Hinata fapping otakus and the executives of Naruto's franchise that are suffering now and we are just enjoying the fireworks, bloody tears, and laughable excuses the Boruto writers are trying to lure us back in with. The day that Boruto's franchise dies out will be a HIGHTLIGHT of my life

Edited by Phantom_999, 11 February 2018 - 11:39 AM.

[Gravenimage]

Oh I don't. I was merely explaining how much power actual fans of the story actually had, we just decided to not be little kittens about it and let Kishimoto write his story . AND HOW NAIVE were we? to think that Kishimoto had the integrity to stick up for his story to the end? but in retro spect, it was GOOD that we suffered then so that we don't suffer now. IT IS the biased greedy, Hinata fapping otakus and the executives of Naruto's franchise that are suffering now and we are just enjoying the fireworks, bloody tears, and laughable excuses the Boruto writers are trying to lure us back in with. The day that Boruto's franchise dies out will be a HIGHTLIGHT of my life

 

True they're not earning as much as they used when Naruto was a hit while Boruto is not.

[James S Cassidy]

WE DID NOT THINK  NH's toxic fandom would be that immperessionable to Kishimoto or the executives controlling Naruto. WE THOUGHT WRONG -___-

I don't think it has anything to do with impression, but rather we never thought Kishimoto would have given up so easily. Remember, many other mangaka fought against such things such as force changes and they kept their wits about their story. Kishimoto didn't.

If we knew that fan infleunce can change a story we would have voiced it harder years ago. No see, we had far more respect for Kishimoto than anyone else ever gave him. We thought he could do better. We thought he could fix it. If anything, we didn't force him to do anything.All of these "pro-enders" and such that say we need to respect Kishimoto or whatnot, but did they really respect him if they kept telling him and sending his garbage like "Make NH canon or else?"

It's funny that the fans who preach the most about respect and "love" are the ones who don't have any of it at all. They say respect the ending and the canon, but as soon as something doesn;t happen the way they wanted it they reject it outright or believe it went something different. They say we need to give thanks to Kishimoto, but again first to kitten of he does anything against HInata. They say we need to accept the canon and NH ending, but it is THEM who can;t accept that things are horrible, dysfuncational, and down right forced.

"Why can't you accept that NH is canon when it is so obvious?"

"Why can't you accept that NH is a massive retcon, Kishimoto never liked or wanted Hinata to be in the story, and anything good about HInata is a fictious view you have on the story that has no canon backing with Sakura being the true heroine of the story when all of it was so obvious? Yeah, when you accept all that, then I will accept NH canon. Until them....you can take your "canon" and shove it."

Edited by James S Cassidy, 11 February 2018 - 10:57 PM.

[BlueStarSaber]

I don't think it has anything to do with impression, but rather we never thought Kishimoto would have given up so easily. Remember, many other mangaka fought against such things such as force changes and they kept their wits about their story. Kishimoto didn't.
If we knew that fan infleunce can change a story we would have voiced it harder years ago. No see, we had far more respect for Kishimoto than anyone else ever gave him. We thought he could do better. We thought he could fix it. If anything, we didn't force him to do anything.All of these "pro-enders" and such that say we need to respect Kishimoto or whatnot, but did they really respect him if they kept telling him and sending his garbage like "Make NH canon or else?"
It's funny that the fans who preach the most about respect and "love" are the ones who don't have any of it at all. They say respect the ending and the canon, but as soon as something doesn;t happen the way they wanted it they reject it outright or believe it went something different. They say we need to give thanks to Kishimoto, but again first to kitten of he does anything against HInata. They say we need to accept the canon and NH ending, but it is THEM who can;t accept that things are horrible, dysfuncational, and down right forced.
"Why can't you accept that NH is canon when it is so obvious?"
"Why can't you accept that NH is a massive retcon, Kishimoto never liked or wanted Hinata to be in the story, and anything good about HInata is a fictious view you have on the story that has no canon backing with Sakura being the true heroine of the story when all of it was so obvious? Yeah, when you accept all that, then I will accept NH canon. Until them....you can take your "canon" and shove it."

Kinda makes me wish kishimoto was like George Lucas in regards of just telling the story he wants not the one fans want https://good-call-my...-prequels#notes

Edited by BlueStarSaber, 12 February 2018 - 12:17 AM.

[rikakim94]

I dont think kishimoto ever cared about his manga or narusaku as much. Thats why anti narusaku shippers started to get louder and louder on top of that kishi is very mediorce writer he was a twisted view on how a hero should act,romance,female characters being mistreated and friendship.

 

You now thinking about it naruto is a phony manga series and kishimoto was clearly trying to make sakura into just a afterthought trophy wife for naruto to earn in the end which is pretty disgusting view on how a herione is to kishi. Because of that i dont ship anything anymore in naruto.

Edited by rikakim94, 12 February 2018 - 04:52 AM.

[VanitasDS76491]

Don't forget ForHinataworld.

Him too but swayer got kishi to respond to one of his videos and he gets most of the blame.

[Gravenimage]

Him too but swayer got kishi to respond to one of his videos and he gets most of the blame.

 

Kishi responded to one of his videos??? When???

[Phantom_999]

I don't think it has anything to do with impression, but rather we never thought Kishimoto would have given up so easily. Remember, many other mangaka fought against such things such as force changes and they kept their wits about their story. Kishimoto didn't.

If we knew that fan infleunce can change a story we would have voiced it harder years ago. No see, we had far more respect for Kishimoto than anyone else ever gave him. We thought he could do better. We thought he could fix it. If anything, we didn't force him to do anything.All of these "pro-enders" and such that say we need to respect Kishimoto or whatnot, but did they really respect him if they kept telling him and sending his garbage like "Make NH canon or else?"

It's funny that the fans who preach the most about respect and "love" are the ones who don't have any of it at all. They say respect the ending and the canon, but as soon as something doesn;t happen the way they wanted it they reject it outright or believe it went something different. They say we need to give thanks to Kishimoto, but again first to kitten of he does anything against HInata. They say we need to accept the canon and NH ending, but it is THEM who can;t accept that things are horrible, dysfuncational, and down right forced.

"Why can't you accept that NH is canon when it is so obvious?"

"Why can't you accept that NH is a massive retcon, Kishimoto never liked or wanted Hinata to be in the story, and anything good about HInata is a fictious view you have on the story that has no canon backing with Sakura being the true heroine of the story when all of it was so obvious? Yeah, when you accept all that, then I will accept NH canon. Until them....you can take your "canon" and shove it."

 

Yeah exactly. My point is, We COULD have done what they did to make NS canon. we chose not. that is the difference here. And funnily enough, as you say, by choosing not to interfere with the shipping and RAGING to get what we want, we actually respect the author and his story WAY WAY than any of those hypocrites ever did. If they feel threatened by any NS moments at all, they send death threats and troll the $#!& out of anything and anyone they can find, towards Kishimoto especially. When there were NH moments, sure we were upset, but at least we were respectful enough to just vent everything out here to ourselves and not be taking it out on anyone else.

 

Side topic. I am never upset about NH moments themselves actually, I was just SICK of all the negativity that I have seen throughout the years towards NaruSaku, and that those fanatical Hinata fans that want her to get Naruto despite any logical evidence suggesting so were potentially being proven right.

Edited by Phantom_999, 05 May 2018 - 01:58 PM.

[Bail o' Lies]

 

Him too but swayer got kishi to respond to one of his videos and he gets most of the blame.

 

Kishi responded to one of his videos??? When???

Yes, when. It does make sense he would try to interact to them though. They seemed like fans that were just acting as critics of the manga, and were sort of the face of the fanbase. Instead of what they really were; the faces of the people that pirated the manga, didn't care about it beyond wanting their pairing to happen to fulfill their fantasies, and were only talking (complaining) about it because it got them views.

 

...Before anyone wants to point out my summaries. I fully assume none of you that are reading it would be inclined to support the franchise again even if I gave them glowing praise. So I'm not trying to be a pirating fan trying to act as the face of the consumers. Merely someone sating the curiosity of disgruntled former customers that are no longer inclined to financially support the series whether I do it or not.

 

What he probably hoped was by interacting with them and watching their videos he could learn what his fans wanted. We know that was a mistake.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 13 February 2018 - 07:11 AM.

[Azor Ahai]

You know what...I wish that things could have gone differently. However my only real regret is not because Naruto ended the way it ended, and that its sequel is the way it is.

 

My only real true regret, is that if anything deserves a sequel...or maybe even a epilogue...that would have been Fullmetal Alchemist...like...what the hell...I mean we got to see Ed and Winry's kids at the end, but we didn't even get names.

Edited by Azor Ahai, 13 February 2018 - 03:33 AM.

[Gravenimage]

You know what...I wish that things could have gone differently. However my only real regret is not because Naruto ended the way it ended, and that its sequel is the way it is.

 

My only real true regret, is that if anything deserves a sequel...or maybe even a epilogue...that would have been Fullmetal Alchemist...like...what the hell...I mean we got to see Ed and Winry's kids at the end, but we didn't even get names.

 

Boruto should have never been created in the first place. It was all Pierot's idea of milking the franchise. It's a shame that decision came back to bite them in the ass considering how poorly the series is doing. 

[Bail o' Lies]

Boruto should have never been created in the first place. It was all Pierot's idea of milking the franchise. It's a shame that decision came back to bite them in the ass considering how poorly the series is doing. 

How badly is it doing now? I like hearing about it.

[VanitasDS76491]

Kishi responded to one of his videos??? When???

Right before the ending I hear it from watchmojo on their anime reviewers, also NH made their top 10 anime kisses at number 6 and is the thumbnail for the video. How is that a great kiss.

[Gravenimage]

Right before the ending I hear it from watchmojo on their anime reviewers, also NH made their top 10 anime kisses at number 6 and is the thumbnail for the video. How is that a great kiss.

 

Fanaticism and not to mention sawyer probably kissed Kishi's ass. He is another loyal NH follower.

[TheFirstEvil100]

To me Sawyer and the other NH youtubers are all sad loners that will never find love and even if they do they will just dump the girl cause they are not like Hinata.

 

I mean remember that video that said what if Naruto Married Sakura, the one said he might have done a part two but I think he won't cause of NH fans.

 

I think Edo has stopped Naruto or Boruto reviews as well not sure.