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Will_Of_Fire

Member Since 21 May 2010
Offline Last Active Jun 02 2013 11:07 AM

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In Topic: Naruto 632

02 June 2013 - 09:12 AM

To Hoshino:

 

When you start telling people to shut up like that it implies that you're failing the argument.

 

Thank you. Zatheko was actually the first to say shut up, so I'm glad you agree he's failing the argument. Well done. Give yourself a pat on the back and a gold star.

 

To Zatheko:

I know I brought it up but you also continued it, but then to use a Star Wars bit of wisdom

"Who's the more foolish, the fool, or the fool who follows him?"

 

Also, as per your other comment, note that I said that everyone in that area of conflict was pretty much dead, and that the others were at minimum safe distance? Now you can say that there is no safe distance, but as I said he would have been pushed to that level no matter what.

 

Hinata may have gone in knowing she'd die, but she couldn't have known that it would unleash the Kyuubi if she died. After all, it doesn't really seem like many of the other shinobi outside the core group of Sakura, Tsunade, Shizune, Kakashi, Jiraiya, Sai and Yamato really understand what are the triggers. Because outside of those no-one's really seen Naruto triggering a 'Kyuubi event'.

In Topic: Naruto 632

02 June 2013 - 08:49 AM

To Zatheko:

 

That's Naruto's responsibility, after all he is the one tasked with holding the Kyuubi in place. And the fact that he reacted that way, just shows that he had at least a reaction to her confession. You know, apart from the bored dismissal that he gives to Sakura's confession.

 

And what was Naruto honestly going to destroy by going to that state? There was nothing left to destroy, and most people were either dead or at minimum safe distance. And besides which you forget that the Kyuubi would never have been a factor if Akatsuki hadn't been there in the first place. Are you honestly telling me that if Naruto hadn't been pinned down and had fought at that level, he could defeat Pain? Of course he couldn't not without drawing on the Kyuubi's chakra. And how long would it have been before he drew too much on it out of necessity. After all, he showed that even at Six Tails he couldn't match Pain. So in order to defeat Pain, he pretty much would have had to release Kyuubi as a 'necessary evil'. So to this, I believe I should echo your words about Hinata charging in and possible outcomes that never happened by saying to you simply...shut up.

In Topic: Naruto 632

02 June 2013 - 08:39 AM

To Tsuki Hoshino: Nitpicking is where I might say something like "I hate her fashion sense", not "she left her comrades out in the open to die" or "she offered to abandon the village along with a traitor".

 

I admit that most do have very disappointing aspects.

 

I was thoroughly disappointed with Tenten's reaction to Neji's death...it seemed far too subdued.

 

As for that in relation to their reactions, Ino's truly disappoints me and I have to say I don't like her for it.

 

Shikamaru does accept Sasuke, but also qualifies it with a degree of distrust.

 

Kiba's reaction is possibly the most realistic, as he actually rails against Sasuke.

 

Sakura's is a big deal because she should have a more sceptical stance on him given her and the others' past experience with him and knowledge of her deeds. But she barely bats an eyelid.

In Topic: Naruto 632

02 June 2013 - 08:31 AM

To Tsuki Hoshino:

She LEFT them in danger. She left them in an unknown territory to hunt a member of Akatsuki, unconscious, and unaware as to whether or not there were other Akatsuki operatives around.

 

How did she know or how could she be sure that Kisame wouldn't come along and slit their throats while they laid there? Did she even ask any of her 'comrades' to detect if there were any other Akatsuki in the area? Nope? Strange, isn't it?

 

Such a lack of foresight and devotion to her own goals to the neglect of others.

In Topic: Naruto 632

02 June 2013 - 08:16 AM

To Tsuki Hoshino: There is a VAST difference between someone who's motives are to protect friends and 'pseudo-family', and one who has clearly shown he's happy with murdering others if it gets him to his ultimate prize which serves no-one but himself. Sasuke's proven he's willing to sacrifice people close to him, just look at what he did to Karin.

 

Tsuki Hoshino wrote: "My opinion and diagnosis is this; You never really liked Sakura as you have claimed, because you're entirely to vitriol about her to have ever done so. You are upset because Hinata is taking a backseat and will probably continue to do so. You're upset, because Naruto had the guts to proclaim Sakura as his GF."

 

I did actually like her. Your attitude towards Sasuke shows that you don't see betrayal as something that should negatively influence something.

 

There was a case in Russia a few years ago where some kid saw that Itachi had died in the manga. He was such an avid Itachi fan that he then went out to the roof of his apartment block and threw himself off the roof. I'm not saying that it's to that degree, but when you see a character who you think is becoming better and has actually slumped into misguided attempts to try and correct things and constantly does nothing but cause pain to someone who should supposedly be close and like family to her, then yeah, I'm going to become 'vitriolic'.

 

Notice that I used 'vitriolic' in these quotes, that's because vitriolic doesn't come close to what I've said. In fact I've presented logical and fact based argument. That is not vitriolic, it's called making a case to back your opinion. It's a fundamental basis for all research.