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#161 Otaru

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Posted 23 April 2014 - 02:04 PM

that black stuffes can't allow you to use norma ninjutsu. You must use the senjutsu in order to annul their effects.. you can take the tobirama's example... He didn't neither moving nor using his jutsu while he was impaled with those black stuffes. If Sakura will be hit by that black stick, he won't be able to use her byakugou. She needs that someone who has senjutsu chakra pull out that black stuff from her body. Obito can do that now?

 

Ah yeah you're right.

So unless Sakura gains a senjutsu power up now, she will be saved by Obito.

IMO, that's what Kishi will do.


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Posted 23 April 2014 - 02:05 PM

that black stuffes can't allow you to use norma ninjutsu. You must use the senjutsu in order to annul their effects.. you can take the tobirama's example... He didn't neither moving nor using his jutsu while he was impaled with those black stuffes. If Sakura will be hit by that black stick, he won't be able to use her byakugou. She needs that someone who has senjutsu chakra pull out that black stuff from her body. Obito can do that now?

I honestly cannot see anyone saving them, but them how will kishi resolve this mess.



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Posted 23 April 2014 - 02:05 PM

Anyone else feeling a Sakura/Rin comparison from Obito in the next chapter?

The whole forum has speculated since like forever. We've had many opportunities. I wouldn't be surprised, but I wouldn't expect it either. I'll probably laugh, this parallel pattern is too stiff. :<


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Posted 23 April 2014 - 02:07 PM

Anyone else feeling a Sakura/Rin comparison from Obito in the next chapter?

No.



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Posted 23 April 2014 - 02:13 PM

Am I the only one who doesn't want to see a Sakura/Rin parallel? Sakura has too many parallel characters and frankly, I feel like its a waste of manga panels to have another parallel. I'm not really interested in Rin either. I had enough of her already. I'd prefer for the author to just move on with the story. If there's gonna be another parallel, god help me I'm gonna kick some innocent kittens!
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Posted 23 April 2014 - 02:15 PM

I think that I'm the only one that actually wants Sakura to die. Now before you guys start screaming like little children, hear me out.
When Shikaku died I was like "Who cares?", when Inoichi died the same "Who cares?" but when Neji died oh my god "Who cares?".
Seriously no one in this war that died was important. Now there's a possibility for a character that actually matters to die. YES.


I don't want her to die per se, but I otherwise agree that for a war arc that has lasted well over two years Naruto's side hasn't lost any really meaningful comrades. I don't mean to diminish how Naruto feels about them, but the audience didn't have particularly strong ties to any of them.

Let's see him off someone the audience really has an attachment to.
 

I just don't see Sasuke really being able to get into Kamui world without some major asspull. Kamui is Obito's special ability and Sasuke can't just copy special abilities like that. Like I said, even Madara needed Obito's eye to transport there. Even the Rinnegan can't just dimension hop unless this is just somehow a "new ability" Kishimoto will give Sasuke.

It really would be a huge asspull....even bigger asspull than the snake escape.


They uh...aerodynamic...yeah, we'll go with that...snake wing was a bigger ass pull.
 

I would prefer anything over Sasuke saving her. I mean, really. It is not even because of pairing moments or pairing wars at all, but simply from a story point of Sasuke going from trying to kill her to all of a sudden saving her is just ridiculous. I really really hope Kishimoto keeps Sasuke consistent for once.


Assuming she is the target (and not Obito)....

Someone mentioned in the spoiler thread that his fight against Madara will be used as part of the excuse of why he should be let back in, no strings attached, and I agree. However, he has not come back to the "good side" yet. It's a convergence of interests and Sasuke is still very Sasuke centric in his outlook. I suspect saving her will be an side-benefit to what he does rather than the main objective.

Stopping Madara would save her almost by default. His goal will be to stop Madara and he might save her as a result whereas if it were Naruto his objective would be to save her and thereby stop Madara.

I can't say I care if he saves her. Don't care what NH/SS will say about it and I doubt it'll do anything to move the needle on pairings. So, I can't get worked up about it.


Congrats Kishimoto. You one uped yourself on the eye surgery. It'll look swift and way too easy when Madara put the last eye in and now with just the swipe of hand he can remove someone else's and put it in his face in a matter of seconds (and use it freely, even Sasuke had sporadic and inconsistent use of Susanoo after getting Mangenkyou). It's even easier than before. I didn't think Kishimoto had it in him, but he did. Way to go.

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Posted 23 April 2014 - 02:18 PM

@ramen
I want the parallel.
I agree with don-kun that no parallel next chapter.
I think obito would deflect the attack and bz take that chance to deliver rinnegan to madara.
After that obito and sakura go back to battle field. Obito will not dead even without bz.

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Posted 23 April 2014 - 02:22 PM

Are you kittening kidding me? Kishi is pulling the same holding a freaking kunai and hesitating to attack leading to her being attacked in the back? Screw that, all that build up showing how she's grown only to have her get caught in a similar situation again!!! She better not end up being saved by Sasuke or Naruto or even Obito next week, let her save herself for once, she's supposed to be the smartest kid in her class after Shikararu yet she ends up in the same damsel in distress situations.
 
This chapter was lame, it should have gone to show how strong both Sasuke and Naruto have grown but nope it was a Uchiha wank session again, Oh look how strong Sasuke is now, 15 years of build up, and showing them grow up and we are back to the start, Naruto the dumb sidekick and Sakura the damsel in Distress.
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Eh, Sakura has no chakra reserves, I'd be surprised if she could put up much of a fight.

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Posted 23 April 2014 - 02:22 PM

Am I the only one who doesn't want to see a Sakura/Rin parallel? Sakura has too many parallel characters and frankly, I feel like its a waste of manga panels to have another parallel. I'm not really interested in Rin either. I had enough of her already. I'd prefer for the author to just move on with the story. If there's gonna be another parallel, god help me I'm gonna kick some innocent kittens!


If it's use in lieu of actual development again...then, yes, I agree. It's a crutch and as I said a couple of week ago, the last thing I want to see is Obito giving a speech about it.

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Posted 23 April 2014 - 02:24 PM

Anyone else feeling a Sakura/Rin comparison from Obito in the next chapter?

 

How long have we been waiting for this and how many opportunities have we seen pass by? It's obvious Kishimoto is deliberately neglecting it. Perhaps for a specific moment he has in mind but I wouldn't be surprised if it never happens at all.



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Posted 23 April 2014 - 02:24 PM

The sakura-rin parallel is getting to close at this point, but I'd be expecting something like obito saving sakura because, wouldn't this kinda be a redemption for him along with saving naruto? He couldnt save the girl he liked but he saved the girl his former enemy liked?

 

As it is right now theres a possibility of these:

 

1. Obito saves sakura by one of many means, kamui her away, turn her intangible, shield her, push her, (in any of these situations something with wanting to avoid a repeat of Rin's death could occur)

2. Sakura's skills may be enough to resist it, she may go full strength of 100 or creation rebirth to heal herself.

3. Obito intercepts the rod to have madara accidentally break his own eye.

4. Sakura dies- but as I said, there is just too much that just makes this hard to follow, I mean its one part that ending, how can people expect team 7 in the end without Sakura? I'd be kinda pissed if Naruto lost another person who wanted to see him become hokage, I mean he was sad when jiraya died and he wanted jiraya to see him become hokage, we know sakura supports his dream so why should she die? Even the kushina foreshadow would be well, useless if she died cause then it would be a whole lot of nothing and still have left nothing built for NH. If Kushinas foreshadow made it clear there was going to be an end pairing and 631+663 gave events that were well building on it and showing who sakura supports for the supposed conflict or reason for the final battle, she would have to live for these things to well, matter. I mean he gave us stuff with her and not Hinata, thats just one thing to say right there.

 

Also is there seriously a 2 week break?


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Posted 23 April 2014 - 02:24 PM

Anyone else feeling a Sakura/Rin comparison from Obito in the next chapter?

Heck yeah!

I want a Sakura/Rin parallel so Badly!

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Posted 23 April 2014 - 02:32 PM

I just want to see Sakura fight...

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Posted 23 April 2014 - 02:34 PM

I just want to see Sakura fight...

 

She may endure the hit and go a bit. Its possible for an obito save, sakura fights, or sakura death (I doubt this the most though, because, theres just no merit to suddenly kill her off).



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Posted 23 April 2014 - 02:35 PM

I just want to see Sakura fight...

You must wait for next arc, but for this arc maybe she will get desperate fight.

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Posted 23 April 2014 - 02:41 PM

But if Obito takes the hit, then will he be able to use his eye's jutsu to kamui out himself and Sakura ? If he takes the hit he will be blocked, just like Nidaime no ?

Obito doesn't have any senjutsu right ?


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Posted 23 April 2014 - 02:46 PM

For all we know Kishi might troll SS yet again with:

 

-Madara arrives and Obito saves Sakura getting her out of Kamui dimension (I agree that he needs some closure he couldn't save Rin but he saved Sakura, that might be the Rin/Sakura parallel even if its unrelated to pairings.

 

-Madara and Obito will have one last confrontation before he snatches his rinnegan and kills Obito.

 

-Sasuke arrives as Madara has both rinnegan. Then again maybe it will be Naruto (didn't Minata placed a FTG seal on Obito? Naruto does have his dad's kunai).

 

At any rate Sakura won't die as the heroine/main character of the story. The haters will always wish for her death and they always be disappointed Kishi proving them wrong. They have gotten used of reading the according to their own wishes. Anyway I won't be surprised if sawyer7mage will bash Sakura on his upcoming review he has been bashing her since 663.


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Posted 23 April 2014 - 02:50 PM

But if Obito takes the hit, then will he be able to use his eye's jutsu to kamui out himself and Sakura ? If he takes the hit he will be blocked, just like Nidaime no ?

Obito doesn't have any senjutsu right ?

 

Well the stuff with obito pulling a save has a few versions,

 

If he takes the hit in the eye then its a no go

 

If he shields or moves sakura out of the way it depends where he is hit. If its like his back, he could still use it. Otherwise it could be possible that he could move sakura out of the dimension himself while taking the hit. But I would be most likely expecting some reaction from obito to save her.

 

As for people complaining about her being the target, well you ever wonder why tsunade was successful? She was one of the first medical units, in so many other medias, medics or healers are always the prime targets. Besides this is madara, you realize the power he has right? saying its bad sakura is targeted by him shouldn't be an issue, I mean one part, its an ambush, okay you cannot always retact or antipate them. The other is how could sakura defend herself against madara without help from Obito? Obito at least could somehow defend her but is that really an issue when again like him healing naruto, wouldn't part of him actually want to avoid failing to save rin again? Saving sakura could be his success over how he failed to save rin. Its that really really an issue if she needs to be saved again, despite it being from one she has no chance against?



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Posted 23 April 2014 - 02:51 PM

I want also that she fight but not against Madara :sweatdrop:


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Posted 23 April 2014 - 02:51 PM

Sakura's healed herself before from being stabbed....but I don't know if Naruto gave her a chakra boost or not before he left. Hope Obito saves her and an alternative that doesn't seem likely but fully within the realm of Kishi (ugh, Sasuke) ~_~


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