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[TheFirstEvil100]

This is one of the best post I read in the last 2+ months, men I thought that I would spend a lot of time on this forum on my vacation but it as being nothing but a lot of complains about Sakura same reason why I no longer visit the Sakura FC in NF.

I don't think it that its that Kishi makes Sakura the girl who needs saving he builds her up and in two chapters knocks her down and not just by Sasuke but by Naruto and so many others as well. I mean its like with Tsunade when she saved Shikamaru. I mean I do love the part in which she saved Naruto one of the few times Kishi used Sakura.

 

​But its like people saying when the new fruit blooms they say Sakura will destroy it, I fear Kishi won't allow that for her.

[JILLNYN]

OMFG! Prepare for one of the most disgusting and horrifying anti-NS I've seen in my life as a fan:

 

http://www.deviantar...o-631-460650397

 

this is not for sensitive NS fans

[luffyq1]

I just got finish reading it. Pretty funny dialogue.

[Atheck]

​But its like people saying when the new fruit blooms they say Sakura will destroy it, I fear Kishi won't allow that for her.

 

The only way for the fruit to sprout is if all chakra has been accumulated into one substance though. If the Shinju is allowed to regain its full power, the world would end with everything existing as grotesque batteries/minions for it and Kaguya. Wouldn't that contradict what Hagoromo has been stressing about needing to prevent absolute power from resting in the hands of one person like Kaguya? 

[questdrivencollie]

OMFG! Prepare for one of the most disgusting and horrifying anti-NS I've seen in my life as a fan:

 

http://www.deviantar...o-631-460650397

 

this is not for sensitive NS fans

Wow, out of character much?

[BakeNeko-Chan]

Man, it's literally impossible to discuss Sakura's character and Kishimoto's handling of her here without some pointing fingers and calling others "whiners and complainers". It's really annoying. People are way too sensitive about those who express their honest opinion when it's less than gushing praise.

 

Look, I'm an aspiring writer myself and for that reason I tend to be very critical of the stories I read because I feel it helps me learn, both what works in making a good story and what doesn't. In no way am I trying to tear Kishimoto down in how he's choosing to write his story, but I also know that he's far from a perfect writer. He takes a lot of short cuts, allows the plot to dictate how the characters act (a personal peeve of mine), leaves a lot of plot holes and sometimes does things that make no sense. On the plus side, he can write some pieces that are very emotional and when he focuses on one or a few characters, he generally writes a pretty good story.

 

I know Kishi can do a good job with Sakura because he has in the past. I hope that everything he's done with her recently is for a good reason -- though I still maintain that some of it is unnecessary, like showing her being incapable of saving herself in life or death situations -- but, I don't think at this point that all the resolution is going to happen in this current arc. And who knows, maybe it could turn out to be a good thing. Maybe Sakura will become more determined to better herself further after this fight is over and get to play a more active role in the future. It could happen.

 

But please, everyone, is it too much to ask that instead of writing others off as petty complainers to try to understand where they are coming from first? Yes, there are those who let their own expectations get the better of them and then lash out when things don't go their way, but please don't generalize. Not everyone who expresses disappointment in a character's portrayal or in the story direction is whining for the sake of whining.

Edited by BakeNeko-Chan, 14 June 2014 - 01:37 AM.

[Nostradamus]

People will always.find a reason to complain:

-OMG, we haven't seen Sakura in the past 2 chapters
-*Sakura appears* OMG, Sakura hasn't fought
-*Sakura fight* OMG, Sakura doesn't have a power up in ages
-*Sakura gets a power up* OMG, power up is crap.
-*shows power up with similar abilities to Tsunade* OMG, she's weaker than Naruto amd Sasuke
-*Sakura struggles with her feelings, juat like everu other himan being* OMG, just get over Sauce already...

I came to the realization that peopke like these will never be satisfied. As you can see, their expectations have reached a level where they will not cut any slack to the author because the atory is not going how "they" want to go. This is Kishi story, so enjoy the ride or comllain about it. However, don't go trying to ruin other people's optimism. I used to visit this site cause I cobsidered it a haven for NS fans. Now, it pretty much dissappoints me what almost everyone has left this place to become. Reply all you want to this post and put any consequence to it, but do know this: none will take the happiness away fron me and from those NS fans who are here to support each other instead of complaining because the story is not going as they want it to go.

You know I'm not expecting her to defeat Kaguya or Madara or to do anything absolutely amazing that will blow your brains out. I'm realistic here. But even you have to admit that what Kishi is doing with Sakura is pathetic. It's similar to what he's going to NH. Every single time it looks like NH might happen or might get some development. Kishi goes "NO" in the next panel or chapter. Same with Sakura when we think she's going to do something awesome, Kishi goes like "NO" in the next panel or chapter. Every single time. Every single time we hope that she's going to do awesome Kishimoto intervenes and goes "NO" she's not.

Having Sakura thinking about how useless she is and how Sasuke doesn't care now is stupid. What Sasuke's multiple attempts at killing her didn't open her eyes to see that Sasuke doesn't care about her? Why exactly do we need these moments now?

I love Sakura and I'll always defend her. However I will not defend Kishimoto for what he's doing with her.

 

Do you realize it's literally everything.
What's left with her character then?

She's not strong as Naruto and Sasuke, she doesnt have valid reasons to struggle neither her feelings for Sasuke werent strong to begin with to justify her long standing battle against it, she vows to stand as equal alongside Naruto and Sasuke, Kishimoto shows her punching some fodders and that's it, tells us that she's stronger than Tsunade and yet she is trolled by Tsunade on Shiakamru's moment, she gets powerups and ends up being trolled with Naruto getting powerups that outshine her healing abilities.
Says she's smarter than Naruto and Sasuke and ends up being once again in another damsel in distress situation, is called as useless by Sasuke and her self esteem is crushed.

Then what's left to expect about Sakura's character?

If you have no expectatives towards Sakura then it's better to admit she's a failed character than calling people out.
That's basically how i feel towards her character, from a heroine of a battle shounen on the begining of part 2, to a pairing drama character.

You know, you and I don't really agree on much. However with this you're right.

Edited by Nostradamus, 14 June 2014 - 01:53 AM.

[tekopi]

Um, is this place about to turn into a civil war? To think, a drop of a pin can start a war?

 

 

You think that this will be a slow week, not even close, LOL. And I thought that everything has been put out. Although some of the arguments are intrigue, I am displeased with what is happening. If such thing start to cause people to rile up, I think I will only come back for next week release. I bet, we will get our utmost answer there, and all of this will stop. Seriously guys. We keep on turning to the same point and argue for the same thing over and over again. An entertainment is meant for entertaining, not turning to a mess like this.  

[JILLNYN]

I really find it interesting that although most of us are NS fans and some people neutral, we all have a different perspective of the manga scenes, a different perspective of future chapters and especially higher expectations tan others. I usually enjoy those differences, the discussions are more interesting than any other forum, that everyone can think what you like and disagree with everyone, what bothered me and I say now is that if While everyone can think wherever you like and feel totally disappointed by the work of Kishimoto in Sakura is ... the battle is starting and was just 2 chapters!

That is you can hate a movie but after seeing it completed in its entirety, which I believe is that we are making conclusions when 20 minutes after the start, that's what frustrated me a bit with this topic.

[Don-kun]

Is not bad to be displease about the way Kishi treat his characters and to be honest many of the secondary characters fans also have a reason to be unhappy with how this Author writes them, but some user here acts as if Sakura is the only reason why this Manga exist in the first place, every single week is a train of people unhappy about something regarding Sakura to a point where is becoming monotonous and repetitive. 

Some of you guys are even arguing against the users that are happy enjoying when something positive happen for NaruSaku and some are constantly repeating that they care more about Sakura than NS but guess what not every user here feels the same way and to be look down by some because they like the little positive NS in the last chapter is silly.

Yes many like Sakura but they are others that like other character and not only Sakura but at the same time they love NS and that feelings is no longer pleasant because of the constant complain about Sakura portrayal in the Manga.

 

Why not create a section that is only dedicated to Sakura so the participation on this site becomes once again the same way is was before where there was many different NS fans posting on the site.

 

Again In NaruSaku.com Many user likes Sakura but not everyone likes Sakura above all characters and the story itself.

Edited by Don-kun, 14 June 2014 - 03:47 AM.

[Luna]

Regarding Sakura's character.. I used to be hoping each time the manga come out that Sakura will have her time to shine but I kind of gave up hope. I'm just reading the manga and going with Kishimoto's flow. Honestly, the way how Kishi write Sakura's character is so unpredictable(Naruto much?)and it's like I don't know what to expect when it comes to her.

[Gravenimage]

I read some of the comments and I agreed with the reply from SaiyabWarrior002 (though he was bashing NH I will skip that part). True or False, does the majority of the NH fandom bash the opposite ship instead of supporting their own? You decide.

[Don-kun]

Yes they do, on all the site I visit the most of them want Sakura to die because she is in NH's way.

[咲耶姫]

OMFG! Prepare for one of the most disgusting and horrifying anti-NS I've seen in my life as a fan:

 

http://www.deviantar...o-631-460650397

 

this is not for sensitive NS fans

Are you sure it's not a pardody of NH fans reaction to 631 from the author of this dialogue? It looks so anti-NH fans. 

[luffyq1]

Are you sure it's not a pardody of NH fans reaction to 631 from the author of this dialogue? It looks so anti-NH fans. 

Nah, dude is a die hard NH fan.

[questdrivencollie]

Are you sure it's not a pardody of NH fans reaction to 631 from the author of this dialogue? It looks so anti-NH fans. 

Hm...I took a look at the rest of their gallery. IDK, either it's all a brilliant satire, or they're one of those extremely illogical fans.

 

ETA:

Exhibit A: http://cudegra777.de...uHina-394095238

Edited by questdrivencollie, 14 June 2014 - 03:05 AM.

[questdrivencollie]

On the Sakura discussion--I've only read this page because I've been absent all week and I haven't read the latest chapter yet, so keep that in mind.

 

Anyway, I would agree with the general sentiment that Sakura should get more..hm, fighting action. After all, that's been part of her character development since part one, trying to catch up with Naruto and Sasuke. She's gotten more powerful since then and it's established that she feels as though she's finally caught up, but it'd be nice to see more evidence of that. Naruto may be the protagonist, but Sakrua isn't exactly a minor character either.

It's a long story, so I can understand that anything of that nature may take a while to get to. But there are definitely some missed opportunities.

[narusaku256]

Yeah lol that's true the tiki taka  just wasn't working in here the problem in here was i mean  Xavi , Iniesta and Busquets were good in the middle  but the defense and the attack were completely of  that is why they lost . As for who is my favorite i have to say Argentina and Spain but after this i'm not so sure about Spain anymore i may replace them with Netherlands LOL XD but Argentina is my ultimate favorite what about your team who's your fav ? Btw are you a Barca fan ? 

Bro, we should stick with our team in times of despair, right? One useless game doesn't mean that they cannot play good. They won the last FIFA world cup. Sometimes, the game just doesn't go our way. It is the same as NS. If things don't go our way from now onwards, will you just abandon it and jump to a new ship? I am sure you won't do that. I am a Spain fan myself. Yesterday's game was worst, I admit it. But no team keeps on winning and winning and winning. There are times like this too. They will make a comeback. Even if they don't, I'll still support them . I will not force you into doing this, its your choice now onwards but every team has its good and bad days. I am eager to see your decision? Well, as for me I am a Spain fan. But if I'd support another team, I'd still say the same . Rest is your call

[Syn11]

I really find it interesting that although most of us are NS fans and some people neutral, we all have a different perspective of the manga scenes, a different perspective of future chapters and especially higher expectations tan others. I usually enjoy those differences, the discussions are more interesting than any other forum, that everyone can think what you like and disagree with everyone, what bothered me and I say now is that if While everyone can think wherever you like and feel totally disappointed by the work of Kishimoto in Sakura is ... the battle is starting and was just 2 chapters!

That is you can hate a movie but after seeing it completed in its entirety, which I believe is that we are making conclusions when 20 minutes after the start, that's what frustrated me a bit with this topic.

 

It's not just about the two recent chapters. People are grumbling because of the general picture that we've got so far. The said dissatisfaction has been accumulating for quite some time since the start of the Shinobi World War arc. In my case, it's fan fatigue. I'm simply tired of counting how many times Sakura was saved and completely powerless because Kishimoto wanted her to be saved and completely powerless. Fighting achievements are not my main priority when it comes to Sakura, but I can't say I'm happy because her emotional, relationship, and plot achievements leave much to be desired too.

Edited by Syn11, 14 June 2014 - 03:54 AM.

[narusaku256]

People will always.find a reason to complain:

-OMG, we haven't seen Sakura in the past 2 chapters
-*Sakura appears* OMG, Sakura hasn't fought
-*Sakura fight* OMG, Sakura doesn't have a power up in ages
-*Sakura gets a power up* OMG, power up is crap.
-*shows power up with similar abilities to Tsunade* OMG, she's weaker than Naruto amd Sasuke
-*Sakura struggles with her feelings, juat like everu other himan being* OMG, just get over Sauce already...

I came to the realization that peopke like these will never be satisfied. As you can see, their expectations have reached a level where they will not cut any slack to the author because the atory is not going how "they" want to go. This is Kishi story, so enjoy the ride or comllain about it. However, don't go trying to ruin other people's optimism. I used to visit this site cause I cobsidered it a haven for NS fans. Now, it pretty much dissappoints me what almost everyone has left this place to become. Reply all you want to this post and put any consequence to it, but do know this: none will take the happiness away fron me and from those NS fans who are here to support each other instead of complaining because the story is not going as they want it to go.

With you mate!

Edit: Every time, every freaking time when Kishi has made a drastic step which is worst, we've got an explanation in the coming chapters. Mind you, Sakura is not there just for pairings sake. She and Kakashi are there for some reason. Let the hokages arrive. Let the chapters roll out. Please guys, I plead to you. Please please please have patience. Sakura is not a side character. I admit that in the previous chapters her handling was wrong. But there has to be a reason for this. There has to be! For goodness's sake, she is not there for just the pairing drama. Tsunade stood up to Madara and so will she against Sasuke! Just have faith in her. If we don't, we are no better than anti fans. The queen is down for a while doesn't mean she won't get up ever again! She will, let's just have faith in her and the biggest virtue which is called patience.

Edited by narusaku256, 14 June 2014 - 04:11 AM.