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#47381 Tsuki Hoshino

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Posted 28 November 2017 - 09:32 PM

Naruto/WD crossover let me know when you write the first chapter.


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Posted 28 November 2017 - 10:05 PM

Talking of NS and the walking Dead I will be doing a story I will later on, what I can say DrK is that Hinata may be killed in it as she would ask Negan to Kill Sakura so that she can be with Naruto, since in Hinata's mind she has the right to be with Naruto.

 

If you watch Walking dead I can say that some who died will live.

 

Also doubt it. If not Negan will kill Hinata like he did to that guy that tried to convince him to kill Rick for him.


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Posted 28 November 2017 - 11:29 PM

Talking of NS and the walking Dead I will be doing a story I will later on, what I can say DrK is that Hinata may be killed in it as she would ask Negan to Kill Sakura so that she can be with Naruto, since in Hinata's mind she has the right to be with Naruto.
 
If you watch Walking dead I can say that some who died will live.

Oh yes please have negan kill hinata or have her be ripped apart by walkers are those what the zombies are called and she turns into one having sakura kill her in a cold way. Even in a zombie apocalypse hinata still has a one track mind and sakura would be baffled how she has survived all this time.
  

Wouldn't he just kill Hinata for daring to request that? I don't watch TWD but I saw your post where he stabbed the guy in the jugular.

Ya I agree not having watched the series he seems like he would do that.

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Posted 28 November 2017 - 11:32 PM

Yes he would, while asking before he kills her why Hinata does not do Kill Sakura herself, Hinata would stammer like she has always done but Negan would just say this "I think I know why, cause you've got no guts." before stabbing her in the stomach and sliding the blade across her stomach killing her and then coming back as a walker.
 
But Naruto will put Hinata after she is killed. and will not be happy that Hinata went behind everyone back to get Sakura killed who is working or trying to find a cure.

That sounds awesome and who kills walker hinata please have it be sakura and is negan the best villain in the series and is Darrell still around?

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 01:12 AM

The Databooks certainly suggest it, even tease a possibly of Sakura returning them but ultimately within the manga itself its shown that Sakura doensn't, and you pretty much have a fading crush. To interpret it as actual romantic love is therefore, not correct. Plus, if we're giving weight to data books, then we certainly have to give weight to them all, including one detailing the "love story" between Naruto and Hinata, show casing moments of development between the two.
 
This isn't disregarding Naruto's feelings, given, Naruto doesn't love her. I simply understand that Naruto moved on, which there is nothing wrong with doing. Nothing wrong with not liking it either mind. Even if he did love her, what difference would it really make? He would still be moving on, and the difference in wording would have very little effect on canon IMO beyond petty stuff, maybe.
 
 

 
I hate the term "real audience", because pairing fans are a part of that, and they're from all fandoms. 
 
Though your description here applies aptly to the "losers" as well, given many believe anything as long as the fantasy image of the precious "happy ending", being corrupted and altered from what it was supposed to be remains untouched. 
 
There's no retcon. There's no evidence of appealing to one fandom (Particular that the ending would please multiple anyway). This is presumably, just frustration, given justification, I.E., cognitive dissonance.

First of all, youre full of it. Naruto did love Sakura. Thats a canon fact no matter how you try and twist it.

Youre also a hypocrite for even suggesting cognitive dissonance when youre sitting there two sentences prior trying to tell others that there is no retcon, given that the entirety of The Last was a retcon, and it was the only viable way to give your ending legs.

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 05:21 AM

First of all, youre full of it. Naruto did love Sakura. Thats a canon fact no matter how you try and twist it.

Youre also a hypocrite for even suggesting cognitive dissonance when youre sitting there two sentences prior trying to tell others that there is no retcon, given that the entirety of The Last was a retcon, and it was the only viable way to give your ending legs.

 

And even if we showed her the facts, You-Know-Who would just deflect in spite of the fact the evidence is right in front of her, which shows us how she isn't wanting to get into a REAL debate.

 

Yeah, exactly! Obviously for a "fact checker", she doesn't read the manga very well and seems to just watch the anime likely to get her sources, hence why she keeps thinking "The Last" is valid. Seriously, it's been proven many times Kishimoto didn't write The Last and all he did was the character designs for it really and just "adjusted" the script. Honestly, I am getting sick and tired of trying to check You-Know-Who and her "facts" since she just reiterates the same unequivocal **** she usually rinses and repeats without any kinds of new information.

 

Thing is, in a debate, both sides need to present information to their arguments, and I am used to this stuff on Tumblr to an extent. Had someone reblog a post of mine I made about Ichigo and Orihime, and not sharing any facts, they just lashed at me over stuff that is obvious if you READ THE DAMN STORY, and I have had it happen to me too in Naruto stuff when I said how fake Sakura's smile during Naruto and Hinata's wedding is, like it was in the war when Sasuke came to "help".



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Posted 29 November 2017 - 05:34 AM

Yeah, exactly! Obviously for a "fact checker", she doesn't read the manga very well and seems to just watch the anime likely to get her sources, hence why she keeps thinking "The Last" is valid. Seriously, it's been proven many times Kishimoto didn't write The Last and all he did was the character designs for it really and just "adjusted" the script. Honestly, I am getting sick and tired of trying to check You-Know-Who and her "facts" since she just reiterates the same unequivocal **** she usually rinses and repeats without any kinds of new information.

The fact that Kishimoto signed off on the Last is actually bigger evidence that he stopped caring about his life's work than the ending was. Because the Last was the murder of Naruto as a character. The ending was just the murder of Sakura. And while it's easy for me to believe that Kishimoto doesn't care about destroying Sakura(She's a female character), I have a much harder time believing he felt nothing over destroying Naruto.

 

Hinata also comes off looking like hot garbage despite how hard they work to make Naruto OOC and obsessing over her, which wasn't believable for even one second.

 

About Sakura's smile: I don't really know what the deal is with that. Does she smile genuinely at all in the movie? Does any character?


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Posted 29 November 2017 - 11:40 AM

The fact that Kishimoto signed off on the Last is actually bigger evidence that he stopped caring about his life's work than the ending was. Because the Last was the murder of Naruto as a character. The ending was just the murder of Sakura. And while it's easy for me to believe that Kishimoto doesn't care about destroying Sakura(She's a female character), I have a much harder time believing he felt nothing over destroying Naruto.
 
Hinata also comes off looking like hot garbage despite how hard they work to make Naruto OOC and obsessing over her, which wasn't believable for even one second.
 
About Sakura's smile: I don't really know what the deal is with that. Does she smile genuinely at all in the movie? Does any character?

In the last no they don't especially sakura during the credit she has the fakest smile on her face at naruto and hinata.

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 10:44 PM

 

Naruto/WD crossover let me know when you write the first chapter.

I will I do have two planned right now which is below this one man, but I do have five chapter done already just not posted them yet as they are being fixed to make sure nothing is wrong, I will say the one that has five chapters will be big since it has the show the comic and the games all in one.

 

or there is the other one which will have Sakura save Sophia and Naruto is where Rick and co are right now.

 

I second this. I'd like it if Beth could come back...

lol Beth shall live no fears on that as will some others that died too soon as well, but I do have two versions in mind right now.

 

1: Sakura finds Sophia when she is lost in the woods and both later show up at the Prison, not sure if it should be season 3 or season 4? (This one is just the TV show. Naruto show up a lot later)

 

2: Naruto and Sakura show up early on and help the many surviours that are left in this world and find out what is going on. (This is one is from the games TV show and comic book, mainly people like Andrea.)

 

So yeah not sure which of th two I shall start or should do.

 

 

Also doubt it. If not Negan will kill Hinata like he did to that guy that tried to convince him to kill Rick for him.

Lol oh true I mean Negan said it himself he hates killing women but Hinata is only thinking of herself, remember as I said Sakura is trying to find a cure and all Hinata can think about and cares for is Naruto, plus like I said Sakura saves Sophia which Hinata would say she does not care for said girl.

 

That sounds awesome and who kills walker hinata please have it be sakura and is negan the best villain in the series and is Darrell still around?

I was think that it would be Naruto that killed her Kunai to the head as Walker Hinata will just growl at him, but as you said Naruto will scowl at this as he is told by Negan what Hinata wanted Negan to do to Sakura and Naruto he pissed at this, and yes Daryl is still around and alive as well.



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Posted 30 November 2017 - 01:28 AM

I will I do have two planned right now which is below this one man, but I do have five chapter done already just not posted them yet as they are being fixed to make sure nothing is wrong, I will say the one that has five chapters will be big since it has the show the comic and the games all in one.
 
or there is the other one which will have Sakura save Sophia and Naruto is where Rick and co are right now.
 

lol Beth shall live no fears on that as will some others that died too soon as well, but I do have two versions in mind right now.
 
1: Sakura finds Sophia when she is lost in the woods and both later show up at the Prison, not sure if it should be season 3 or season 4? (This one is just the TV show. Naruto show up a lot later)
 
2: Naruto and Sakura show up early on and help the many surviours that are left in this world and find out what is going on. (This is one is from the games TV show and comic book, mainly people like Andrea.)
 
So yeah not sure which of th two I shall start or should do.
 

Lol oh true I mean Negan said it himself he hates killing women but Hinata is only thinking of herself, remember as I said Sakura is trying to find a cure and all Hinata can think about and cares for is Naruto, plus like I said Sakura saves Sophia which Hinata would say she does not care for said girl.
 

I was think that it would be Naruto that killed her Kunai to the head as Walker Hinata will just growl at him, but as you said Naruto will scowl at this as he is told by Negan what Hinata wanted Negan to do to Sakura and Naruto he pissed at this, and yes Daryl is still around and alive as well.

What no guns cause they won't last long cause kunai aren't enough. So you're saying hinata doomed or almost doomed everyone again cause she wanted naruto's d in her, my God she deserves to die by negative.
Cool cause I've heard daryl is very popular, so is negative like the best villain in the series.
In other news new avengers trailer just dropped and sephiroth and Vergil will be fighting in death battle next awesome.

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Posted 30 November 2017 - 02:01 AM

Guns are generally a negative when it comes to Zombies...At least in TWD. Kills are better off silent. 


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Posted 30 November 2017 - 03:25 AM

Guns are generally a negative when it comes to Zombies...At least in TWD. Kills are better off silent. 

 

Which is where being a ninja can be handy.



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Posted 30 November 2017 - 04:20 AM

Guns are generally a negative when it comes to Zombies...At least in TWD. Kills are better off silent. 

1.) Yeah, guns are loud. Even suppressors are NOT "silencers". They STILL make a pretty noticeable "thunk" sound that could attract zombies.

2.) Guns are just as needing of maintenance and such as other weapons. Even AK-47s won't last forever without cleaning and whatnot.

3.) Guns are limited by the amount of ammunition one has, and not all guns can take every kind of ammunition either. A handheld weapon like a crowbar, axe, etc. would last overall far longer. Even a bow and arrow, if crafted well, would have far more ammunition than a gun in the long run, or a sling with rocks, and such since you can either retrieve what you use or have a lot of materials around to make more.

4.) Just because you have a gun, it doesn't mean that you'll be hitting something with every single shot, with or without training (chances are most won't have any training or practice). I guarantee that, at least early on in a zombie apocalypse, A LOT of gun-wielding idiots will waste most, if not all their ammo just doing spray and pray on zombies while only killing a small number of zombies compared to the amount of ammo they use. Then there's the fact that A LOT of people, even those with guns, would end up missing a lot due to panic and adrenaline in such a situation.

...and this is just with regular zombies and not counting possible mutations over time.


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Posted 30 November 2017 - 01:31 PM

Talking of NS and the walking Dead I will be doing a story I will later on, what I can say DrK is that Hinata may be killed in it as she would ask Negan to Kill Sakura so that she can be with Naruto, since in Hinata's mind she has the right to be with Naruto.

 

If you watch Walking dead I can say that some who died will live.

Since we're talking about the horror genre and Hinata, I want to see Hinata fed to Pennywise the Dancing Clown. Unlike the Losers, she doesn't have two multiversal god-like beings to amplify her (non-existent)psychic powers, nor does she have the will and imagination to oppose IT. 


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Posted 30 November 2017 - 08:25 PM

Guns are generally a negative when it comes to Zombies...At least in TWD. Kills are better off silent. 

True and they are ninja they will still use guns on humans cause well lets face it they are not going to rush at someone that has a assault rifle or even a 50 cal machine gun that would tear them up no matter how good they are.

 

 

Which is where being a ninja can be handy.

That is true mainly Naruto's shadow clones but in the story I am doing its going to be hard for them to use their chakra, they can still use it just not as well as they would like to.

 

1.) Yeah, guns are loud. Even suppressors are NOT "silencers". They STILL make a pretty noticeable "thunk" sound that could attract zombies.

2.) Guns are just as needing of maintenance and such as other weapons. Even AK-47s won't last forever without cleaning and whatnot.

3.) Guns are limited by the amount of ammunition one has, and not all guns can take every kind of ammunition either. A handheld weapon like a crowbar, axe, etc. would last overall far longer. Even a bow and arrow, if crafted well, would have far more ammunition than a gun in the long run, or a sling with rocks, and such since you can either retrieve what you use or have a lot of materials around to make more.

4.) Just because you have a gun, it doesn't mean that you'll be hitting something with every single shot, with or without training (chances are most won't have any training or practice). I guarantee that, at least early on in a zombie apocalypse, A LOT of gun-wielding idiots will waste most, if not all their ammo just doing spray and pray on zombies while only killing a small number of zombies compared to the amount of ammo they use. Then there's the fact that A LOT of people, even those with guns, would end up missing a lot due to panic and adrenaline in such a situation.

...and this is just with regular zombies and not counting possible mutations over time.

Very true hand held wepons are safer after all and as along as you take care of them they will last.

 

What no guns cause they won't last long cause kunai aren't enough. So you're saying hinata doomed or almost doomed everyone again cause she wanted naruto's d in her, my God she deserves to die by negative.
Cool cause I've heard daryl is very popular, so is negative like the best villain in the series.
In other news new avengers trailer just dropped and sephiroth and Vergil will be fighting in death battle next awesome.

Yes Hinata will kitten up I mean she does not care about Sakura making a cure, she just wants Naruto, that it.

 

Since we're talking about the horror genre and Hinata, I want to see Hinata fed to Pennywise the Dancing Clown. Unlike the Losers, she doesn't have two multiversal god-like beings to amplify her (non-existent)psychic powers, nor does she have the will and imagination to oppose IT. 

That is true let's face it Hinata would be the first to die when it comes down to it or at the very least Naruto and Sakura would see her be killed by a Horror monster.



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Posted 30 November 2017 - 08:27 PM

Pyramid Head would probably have a good time with her.



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Posted 30 November 2017 - 08:31 PM

1.) Yeah, guns are loud. Even suppressors are NOT "silencers". They STILL make a pretty noticeable "thunk" sound that could attract zombies.
2.) Guns are just as needing of maintenance and such as other weapons. Even AK-47s won't last forever without cleaning and whatnot.
3.) Guns are limited by the amount of ammunition one has, and not all guns can take every kind of ammunition either. A handheld weapon like a crowbar, axe, etc. would last overall far longer. Even a bow and arrow, if crafted well, would have far more ammunition than a gun in the long run, or a sling with rocks, and such since you can either retrieve what you use or have a lot of materials around to make more.
4.) Just because you have a gun, it doesn't mean that you'll be hitting something with every single shot, with or without training (chances are most won't have any training or practice). I guarantee that, at least early on in a zombie apocalypse

pretty much, guns when it comes to zombies are really only useful if you're a better then decent shot/have distance and time to fix your messups. Youre aiming for a relatively small area, the head rather then center of mass like you would with a regular human being. Diff opponents need different approaches.

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Posted 30 November 2017 - 08:38 PM

pretty much, guns when it comes to zombies are really only useful if you're a better then decent shot/have distance and time to fix your messups. Youre aiming for a relatively small area, the head rather then center of mass like you would with a regular human being. Diff opponents need different approaches.

 

That's why characters like Daryll and Michonne are awesome since they're the best in melee combat.


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Posted 30 November 2017 - 09:42 PM

The crossbow/bow tactic is honestly the smartest imo. Silent but long ranged and if needed a good whack from it will put a zombie down.

Also Norman reedus is hot so, :fu:

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Posted 30 November 2017 - 09:47 PM

Lol so yeah guys I will be doing it that and a corpse Party one as well if any of you have played the game that is.






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