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Bail o' Lies

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In Topic: Sakura in the New Manga.

06 December 2022 - 02:17 AM

If I think of an overview of Sasuke's feeling towards Sakura. He probably hated the fact he was stuck with one of the random girls that used to fawn over him, but at least felt she was better than that idiot Naruto because she had good grades. Then, after the bench talk he thought she an annoying spoiled brat that doesn't appreciate what she has. He also thought once he gotten to know Naruto more and respect him. That she wasn't doing enough compared to Naruto and that she was worse than Naruto despite initially being better than him. Eventually, with time spent on team 7 she became one of the few people Sasuke cared about which allowed her to help him suppress the curse seal when he looked into her terrified eyes. However, those feelings didn't not outweigh his desire for revenge nor did she understand him enough to keep their bond from severing at the end of part one like Naruto was able to.


After that she became an annoyance that he would kill without hesitation if she got in his way. Also as his before final battle rant said; he doesn't get what she actually likes about him because he has never showed her any affection, and think she delusional even living in a dream world if she think he would ever love her. Then, out of guilt, and to appease Naruto; he ended up with her.


The one time he ever said anything nice to her or about her. Was during the chunin exam because he could tell she was depressed, realized that he probably was going to work with her to pass the exam at some point, and so he needed to restore her confidence...which he originally destroyed in the first place. 


The person that has complete faith in her and constantly praises her was Naruto. So the manga is awkwardly making Sasuke fill in the Naruto role in Sakura's relationship, just like Hinata has to be Sakura-like in Naruto's. Which again is because neither couple interacted that much in the manga so eventually they have to go back to a relationship that did NS.

In Topic: Naruto: Sasuke's Story-The Uchiha and the Heavenly Stardust: Chapter 4

06 December 2022 - 01:55 AM

It was rare for Sakura to be allowed to show off her intelligence due to it being a battle focus manga, she not getting many chapter focus on that aspect, and Shikamaru taking over the role of the smart member of the cast. So it is nice but the story is always twisting itself for these scenes to happen instead of letting the scene happen naturally.


Also, "I can memorize playing card decks, since I used to have to do it when I was training under Tsunade," is a nice moment but nothing really that big that Therece was hyping it up as. 

In Topic: Sakura in the New Manga.

05 December 2022 - 07:34 PM

Well. Saw the SS moment in chapter 4. Sasuke gives Sakura a ring he made and she stares at it like a smitten teenage girl like Phantom said. When I'm talking about the story I'm talking about Boruto. But since Chie has taken a leave due to medical reason Sakura probably not going to be use often in the anime.


As for Sasuke I would used mandatory required affection showing for how he behaves. The problem is that we haven't seen him bond with Sakura like Naruto did with her. So him trusting her or having faith in her, or anything else feels off. We haven't seen the build up to this.

In Topic: Boruto: The Never-Ending Prologue Chapter 75

05 December 2022 - 06:35 PM

If they were going to introduce "stronger enemies  that are out of Naruto and Sasuke's league" in the first place I fail to see he point of it in the first place. It wasn't necessary to kill off Kurama. It wasn't necessary to rob Sasuke of his Rinnegan powers. They needed those more than ever if anything. Forget handling power scaling properly, they don't even know what are good power scaling elements in a half way decent story. This is just beyond incompetency. That is if they were NOT overhyping and hyperboling the villains and their powers at all at all 

I'm split between two possible reason for why they did it.


One) Drama. He wants the fights that Bolt and Nail have to be epic, and doesn't want people in the back of their minds thinking, "oh no Boruto is in trouble, Naruto should come in a save him by defeating his foe in a single blow." Oh course this is a bad idea since. This is a sequel to Naruto fans are used to the kid ninja fighting some apprentice while some adult fights the big bad, and Boruto shouldn't be until his time skip. Also this limits the range of people you can have fighting. Naruto and Sasuke were already the world's strongest men, if they are useless, then most of the world is. Leaving Nail and Bolt to fight Otsutsuki aliens and any cyborgs Madoc's has stash away somewhere, because those are the only ones that possess shinjutsu, the new tier of power that no one beneath it can match.


Two) Spite. Ikemoto may be bitter towards Kishimoto. So he may want to drag down Kishi's characters so it be easier for his to shine. Also why he decides to rehash SNS because he wants to prove he can write better than Kishi. Problem is that many mangaka of the current manga scene grew up with Naruto and have added their own; how they would tell their story better than Naruto was told: MHA, Black Clover, Jujutsu Kaisen, and Chainsaw man off the top of my head. and all of them are better written than Boruto.

In Topic: Sakura in the New Manga.

03 December 2022 - 03:28 AM

MangaPlus published the chapter earlier. Original date also was 2/12. They realized their Mistake and removed.

I'm a Sakura Fan. But i don't mind SS, NS, Ino or Tsunade as long Sakura is doing something.   Although I prefer originally preferred NS. It's been 8 years since the ship sunken.
Also I'm simply don't deny SS popularity and some development the pairing had from Part 1. C'mon guys the pairing popularity, thousends of fanarts,fics and their fans don't come from nowhere or Kage Summit arc.

Also the most interesting thing in the chapter isn't the SS scene
But the Tsunade mention and finally some Tsunade/Sakura relationship as a Master and Student.
I know who much sensitive some NS fans are here and put spoiler Tag from SS...

For Sakura and SS. I like Sakura as a character, but I don't like the pairing. The story of Naruto was showing how bad they were for each other, how it based on lies and misunderstandings as well as abuse. The backstory of Boruto is, Sasuke was so indifferent to Sakura and the daughter they had together he didn't bother to see them for 12 years, and even made a meeting point for Naruto just to make sure he never saw them. That's not a healthy relationship. I don't mind you liking it but you come off -and I hoped I was already making clear- that you wanted us to embrace it as well. I don't want to. So, stop. Talking about it is fine, but curb you enthusiasm.   


As for anything about the story, I will see it tomorrow. 


Lets assume this was Kishimoto's intention. Do you think this is good writing and why?


For a manga that doesn't focus on romance and pairing development, he sure spent a significant amount of time on it with respect to the pairing that did not happen. He can do whatever wants; it's his manga. But my issue is (and always will be) good and bad writing. Pairings/relationships are utterly meaningless; the question should always be how something enhances the quality of the story. I would submit to you that NS fits the themes and respective character arcs of the original 700 chapter manga better than any other pairing. As for karin, she comes across as someone solely created for the sake of being in Sasuke's new team/posse. Whether they got together would not have affected the story, but I can see potential sequel scenarios it would have helped.


Since you're simply a Sakura fan, let me ask you a question: If a new Sakura focused side manga came out and the manga exclusively consisted of Sakura dating Orochimaru, Sakura gaining significant amounts of weight and Sakura getting a sex change, would you be happy about the new content simply on the basis that it was new Sakura content?

It a weird consumerism belief now a days were people are suppose to support product no matter what, like an abuse victim. Look at Star Wars fans, it made pretty clear that Kennedy hates what Star Wars is and what's to change it to its very core. But, show some fans a half decent show and they forget that and proclaim that star wars is back. When instead it just becomes a justification for more of her kitten. Once she destroyed the movies that nearly killed it as a franchise, but then Mandolorian came out was well received. But, now Star Wars is a TV-streaming franchise producing Kenndey's shows. Hell, a new Indiana Jones movie is coming out and the story is there is dial of time that will allow a Woman to travel back in time so Indiana will die, so she can replace him. They are expecting people to go see it because they have no respect for them.


Its better to walk away from a franchise than to continue to support it. If they make something that appeals to you at least wait or be cautious before fully embracing it. Because, is it them truly changing or is it just appeasement? 


As for Kishimoto's intention for SS and how it relates to this manga and the light novel it was based on. SS was a pairing of the spares for him. He was told for years the fans wanted nH. He gave it to them and made SS happen because it put Sakura somewhere once her was no longer the heroine and they did know SS had fans. So, it would augment the money they would get from that supposedly large nH international fanbase. The light novel was made as just drivel  to get some money from SS fans. While the manga was a check to see if SS was really popular, are other parts of the Naruto franchise popular, and is it just nH/Boruto that are unpopular?

Can only speak for myself, but had no issue with your posting. Any vitriol I would have I would direct at the manga publisher for reminding me that Naruto exists while I'm trying to live my best life.

Live, this manga will be done in a couple of weeks anyways. But, enjoy that thought in your head that this and the other one are doing better than Boruto the manga built on the pairing that said Sakura wasn't good enough to be the love interest or heroine.