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[alexander]

 Don't defend one demon, and witchunt another. In fact I think that for every thing Clinton has done, Trump has done twice as much. I just googled the words Donald Trump and corruption and the results were endless, I'll even be so nice and link to the top article which explained it better than I could.

 

That's ridiculous. Hillary along with the rest of the Obama administration are responsible for the destabilization of the middle east by supporting rebel groups that ultimatelly led to the formation of ISIS, wich in turn triggered the worst refugee crisis of recent time. Hillary is directly responsible for crimes of war, if being crooked was not enough. If you can take your eyes out of the leftist controlled brainwashed media, you can see that Trump, for all his douchyness, will never be worse then Hillary. Or do you actually think bringing chaos to entire nations is a lesser crime then being prejudiced?

 

Not to mention Hillary will continue Obama's policies of antagonizing Russia, wich doesn't take well to threats, while Trump himself openly stated he wishes America to build more friendly relations with the russians. Again, I suppose the leftists would rather see nuclear winter rather then a more peaceful world. All to place a liberal in power, right?

[sushi.]

Trump has never been in a political position before, so basically all wrongdoings has to come from his business carreer, and his future plans which I think are horrible but you might not. That's why it is difficult to compare them like this. War crimes are actually what turns me most off of a politician. I absolutely hate what the American military/NATO has done to the middle east, but we're kind off out of options here. It'd be much easier if Trump had been a senator too, then we'd know what we're getting ourselves into. Even Sanders voted for bombing Yugoslavia, but he's mostly against foreign invasions. But the future president will either be someone who sometimes chooses invasion and other times are reluctant, or someone who says he wants to bomb the kitten out of people. That's something I can't get out of my head. So, Trump is not just prejudiced. I think he's less calculating and more impulsive than Hillary.
 
There are some good things of course; Trump has subsequently criticized the Iraq war, although that might be an unfair argument because we don't know what he would've voted in 2002. It's easy now since we all know it was a mistake, and Hillary has admitted that too. It's too bad Trump won't learn from such invasions though, as he thinks he can bomb ISIS to death. He is also more neutral on Israel-Palestine than Hillary, but staying silent will not help anyone, he's just avoiding getting any enemies. Then I'd prefer a Sanders who openly supports Israel yet admits the crimes against Gaza, and even challenged Hillary on it. However both Hillary and Trump supported going into Afghanistan and Lybia. So while I see your point I don't think it's as onesided you do. And since Trump isn't a politician, plus that he has changed his stance on foreign invasions several times, it is difficult to get a grasp on what he actually will do with the middle east.
 
But the rebel groups started long before Obama, they contributed to the damage but they didn't create it. One more thing to think about is that the majority of congress is republican, so Trump will have more freedom than Hillary to do whatever he wants. But I still think congress continue the bills for foreign invasions, it's not something the president creates or stops, it's like a part of the culture from both right and leftists. Makes me wanna throw up.

Edited by sushi., 08 August 2016 - 04:02 PM.

[Dalton.T.R]

Um...I have no words for this. Just...wow. 

 

http://conservativef...borhoods-video/

 

As far as the polls go, I've been doing some research, and I find it very funny how Trump had such a massive lead over Hillary then she's ahead of him practically over night. Very suspicious, especially when comparing their crowds. The media have shown their true colors, and their credibility is dropping because of it. They're hiding so many facts from the public that could put Clinton behind bars or in front of a firing squad, and only focus on the negative things Trump does. Now they're polling more democrats than Republicans, so of course she'd be in the lead. However, it looks like most people aren't buying it.  Trump's crowds continue to grow while Hillary's are shrinking. 

 

Another thing that disgusts me about the media is how they're only reporting Trump supporters and not Hillary supporters. There was a 65-year-old man who was assaulted for wearing a Trump T-shirt among many many other things. The media's completely silent on anything negative Hillary does, but the second a Republican makes a mistake all Hell breaks loose. 

 

I also find it very funny how no one had a single problem with Trump, but the second he starts running as a Republican? The world's against him. He's saying a lot of things Bill Clinton said during his presidency that the left loved, but now that Trump's saying it he's labeled a racist. Honestly, liberal bias and hypocrisy knows no limits. 

 

 

Edited by Dalton.T.R, 15 August 2016 - 12:35 AM.

[rocci]

Trump won.

[TouKen4Life3g]

We pulled a Brexit 2.0! Woohoo! We did it! I love this country!





*Insert Dead Space 2 fatality*

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

Perhaps true, but the alternative is just worse. Russia is no ISIS. If the USA were to go directly against them, the consequences would be catastrophic. Possibly even nuclear war depending on the situation. And Hillary was going exactly at that direction. I simply cannot see her rule being any better then Trump's.
 
I saw this article, and thought it was a good read regarding this whole election mess. The left mourns Trump's victory, but they will never, ever accept that they themselves, engineered it.
 
http://www.bhagwad.c...-liberals.html/

That would be disastrous if she did strike against Russia. Hard for say, because I don't think Hilary is that type to commit genocide on a whim and I think this is one factors that made her lose the election just by stating that. And there have been many presidents before her that wanted to do the same to Russia but couldn't. America and Russia haven't been the closes buddies since World War 2 (I think).

 

Trump is another story, now excluding the whole apocalyptic future. I never supported any of the candidates, but I never care who won as long it's not Trump or McCain. McCain is a war monger and Trump is very ambitious, power hungry and seems to only care for the rich, which is my concern as well. He could dismantle Social Security and claimed America no longer needs to rely on the system. You know how much divested the poor and middle class people who are working off their butts their entire lives while people like Trump sit around in their nice conformable office and homes, fattening themselves up. Sure, we get retirement plans, but those are just supplements. If he does that, then I guarantee the streets will be filled with riots.

 

What's done is done. Now the questions is that can we all get through Trumps reign without losing our SS and the manga, movies war games such as Battlefield and CoD come to reality in our back yard. The lose of love ones, homes and internet. I'm sure we all like to continue our peaceful way of live without the existence of war beyond the Middle East. I know I sound senile, but can't help to worry about the future that is in store for us humanity.  

Edited by Konoha'sCrimsonFox, 10 November 2016 - 07:41 AM.

[T XD]

The thing that I got very frustrated yesterday about, beside the other wrong things he has on the list for the people and other countries, is that I don't think a lot of people know that he's a threat to Middle East. ISIS is enough of a threat on us here cause they want to kill people for wrong beliefs. I live in the Middle East and I know how things exactly are going.

 

I want to tell you something : The media exaggerate things concerning Middle East and sometimes they do exaggerate a lot especially concerning Islam. There's no war except in Syria between two parties with ISIS being a pain in the butt. 

 

I'm not going to tell where I'm from cause I want whoever wants to know to keep on guessing Though now it's very clear from what I'm saying XD

 

Anyway, here is very calm and nothing is happening except when ISIS gets lucky escaping security  Though, it has been a long time since nothing from them happened...

 

Here's the problem. The neighboring country isn't on good terms with mine Trump being against Muslims, which one of the two dominant religions here is Islam, will be sided with the neighboring country... and there you have it... more political filth which could possibly lead to a war. I don't want to see people killed and for political reasons.

 

Here's another one. Canceling the deal with Iran, though I don't think he will like he said, will lead to political stuff and sidings that possibly could drag my country to their war. Hopefully, not turning also to a world war.

 

I just wish all the issues of politics and all kinds of discrimination would be thrown away and not touched again on this planet. Life on this planet would be much much much much better.

Edited by T XD, 10 November 2016 - 02:12 PM.

[rocci]

Let me guess, Lebanon?

Personally, I don't think trump become president equal ww3.
There's nothing to gain from ww3 unless it doesn't turn into a nuclear war.
Else there will still be war, since war is politic and business.

Edited by rocci, 10 November 2016 - 02:11 PM.

[T XD]

Let me guess, Lebanon?

Winner winner chicken dinner

[rocci]

Winner winner chicken dinner

Yay chicken.

I'm more curious on whatever or not the free trade would be abolish or get a change for America benefit.

[T XD]

Personally, I don't think trump become president equal ww3.
There's nothing to gain from ww3 unless it doesn't turn into a nuclear war.
Else there will still be war, since war is politic and business.

No, he's not equal to WW3. It's that he's sided with Jews as far as I know and him has a thing against Muslims make the possibility of a war between the two.

In his speeches you can see his stand on Muslims. If he starts on making sparks with discussions concerning the two countries and the two countries were affected... Things will escalate. It's somewhat close to your last option.

 

Whereas the nuclear war, it's very unlikely. Unless, like I said, USA and Iran started to have issues again with the nuclear weapons.

 

Yay chicken.

I'm more curious on whatever or not the free trade would be abolish or get a change for America benefit.

It won't be a benefit for USA. Companies, market and business will be affected. That's what I think.

Edited by T XD, 10 November 2016 - 02:27 PM.

[alexander]

And the trend of the left being utterly disgraceful continues....

 

 

Odd, how people that accuse Trump and his supporters of being hateful bigots, act like a bunch of hateful bigots themselves. They don't have arguments, they just mindlessly give in to the narrative and fulfil their regressive liberal duties.

[Fyuria'sLeo]

And the trend of the left being utterly disgraceful continues....

 

 

Odd, how people that accuse Trump and his supporters of being hateful bigots, act like a bunch of hateful bigots themselves. They don't have arguments, they just mindlessly give in to the narrative and fulfil their regressive liberal duties.

Boy you really like accusing liberals for everything.

Ive met a lot of right wing supporters and left wing.

Im independent for a reason and both sides have done kitten like this. Get off your high horse and accept the fact that people are upset.

[Gravenimage]

People saying Trump becoming president means end of the world or end of latino and other US citizens from latin america. But I think people exaggerate too much. I think we should give him a chance and see how he rules the country. If he mess up we can complain and if he doesn't we can admit it was the right thing to do to elect him. Let's see what these four years have for the US with the Trump administration running the show.

[alexander]

Boy you really like accusing liberals for everything.

Ive met a lot of right wing supporters and left wing.

Im independent for a reason and both sides have done kitten like this. Get off your high horse and accept the fact that people are upset.

 

I can more then accept that people are upset. I can just go on youtube and laugh at all the childish meltdowns. But in here, so called "progressives" are inciting chaos and violence over a lawful democratic vote. They are not just upset, these people spit on the values of their country because the narrative didn't went their way for once. So I won't get off the horse because you don't like me denouncing them for the crap they are trying to pull.

[Nate River]

Boy you really like accusing liberals for everything.

Ive met a lot of right wing supporters and left wing.

Im independent for a reason and both sides have done kitten like this. Get off your high horse and accept the fact that people are upset.

 

None of the people doing this would have accepted the other side being upset and would have been fighting each other for the chance to smugly tell Republicans to "get over it."  In addition, they are far more than upset. They are vandalizing property and setting things on fire. One such lovely message said "Die Whites Die" and the lady on CNN said people would have to die. Then there was the group that assaulted a man for voting for trump. 

 

Here's another one. Canceling the deal with Iran, though I don't think he will like he said, will lead to political stuff and sidings that possibly could drag my country to their war. Hopefully, not turning also to a world war.

 

Is there any evidence that Iran is making any series efforts to comply with it now? 

[TouKen4Life3g]

People saying Trump becoming president means end of the world or end of latino and other US citizens from latin america. But I think people exaggerate too much. I think we should give him a chance and see how he rules the country. If he mess up we can complain and if he doesn't we can admit it was the right thing to do to elect him. Let's see what these four years have for the US with the Trump administration running the show.

I now agreed. I will admit that I have overracted but in a way, it's normal because it's something that felt like "it wasn't going to happen" only for it to happen. Is it bad? Who knows. It's all about the first reactions that it can be just that. Some will move forward and recollect. I have. Sure, it still no great, due to the fact this was the best we can do for our country, so it was our fault to begin with. Regardless, it's not over. It's just opening your eyes to something you didn't know you have to witness and now it's here.

 

I am giving a chance, because it was my reaction and only that. Now I am well and prepared to see what's next.

[Nostradamus]

Can someone explain to me how exactly the electoral college system works.

[sushi.]

Can someone explain to me how exactly the electoral college system works.

Simply put, some states are much more populated than others. Take Wisconsin and California, I think they're the most and least populated areas. Since California has almost 40 mill people, the votes there has much less value than a vote in a more rural state. One vote in CF is about 3 in WSC. It's an old and outdated custom, for two main reasons; In the old days, politicans didn't trust the people. They were said to be ignorant of politics and this was a way of keeping things at bay. Second reason is since the US has a big population, it is easier to count the votes state by state and not all at once. But now it's easier to count and all so..

 

Btw, this is quite sad and interesting. The statistics say;

46.9% did not vote

25.6% voted for Clinton

25.5% voted for Trump

1.7% voted for Gary Johnson

 

So Obama has fought against a republican senate for 8 years. I have a lot of respect for that man, but now there will be a republican president and a republican senate. Not to mention the worst of the worst, Mike Pence. To those who tried to stop this, I give you all my condolences.

Edited by sushi., 11 November 2016 - 02:27 AM.

[Nostradamus]

Simply put, some states are much more populated than others. Take Wisconsin and California, I think they're the most and least populated areas. Since California has almost 40 mill people, the votes there has much less value than a vote in a more rural state. One vote in CF is about 3 in WSC. It's an old and outdated custom, for two main reasons; In the old days, politicans didn't trust the people. They were said to be ignorant of politics and this was a way of keeping things at bay. Second reason is since the US has a big population, it is easier to count the votes state by state and not all at once. But now it's easier to count and all so..

 

Btw, this is quite sad and interesting. The statistics say;

46.9% did not vote

25.6% voted for Clinton

25.5% voted for Trump

1.7% voted for Gary Johnson

 

So Obama has fought against a republican senate for 8 years. I have a lot of respect for that man, but now there will be a republican president and a republican senate. Not to mention the worst of the worst, Mike Pence. To those who tried to stop this, I give you all my condolences.

Ok, I see. Thank you very much.