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#1 rikakim94

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 06:37 PM

Does anyone remember ben 10 tv series?

 

If so do you guys remember the weird subtext between ben and gwen? I remember watching that thinking its weird that an american cartoon would hint at incest.

 

But years down the line i did researching and found out that they weren't suppose to be related in the original draft.  It was changed at the last minute because its weird to have a girl travel with an unrelated boy and grandpa.

 

Now that im looking back at ben and gwen i no longer find the whole subtext to be weird. I find it more interesting than the shoddy kevin and gwen pairing in the sequal series.

 

If they went with the incest route it would be the first canon pairing  in american cartoon to be a incest ship.


Edited by rikakim94, 12 January 2017 - 06:39 PM.


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Posted 12 January 2017 - 09:15 PM

Yeah, I saw them having something for each other. I wanted them to end up cause it would be a change for a cartoon :P

 

I didn't like Kevin and Gwen together. Their relationship was off.



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Posted 13 January 2017 - 03:09 PM

Yeah, I saw them having something for each other. I wanted them to end up cause it would be a change for a cartoon :P

 

I didn't like Kevin and Gwen together. Their relationship was off.

 

Kevin did many questionable things in the original series and in the sequal he came out of no where in a car to pick ben and gwen up and immediately starts flirting with gwen. Thats a VERY poorly written character relationship/romance. 

 

If man of action the creator of ben 10 was allowed to do a sequal of ben 10 ben gwen kevin and grandpa would have been more in character. 

 

Im kinda butthurt about the way the ben 10 franchise turned out in the sequels.  :down:


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Posted 14 January 2017 - 12:26 AM

 

Kevin did many questionable things in the original series and in the sequal he came out of no where in a car to pick ben and gwen up and immediately starts flirting with gwen. Thats a VERY poorly written character relationship/romance. 

 

If man of action the creator of ben 10 was allowed to do a sequal of ben 10 ben gwen kevin and grandpa would have been more in character. 

 

Im kinda butthurt about the way the ben 10 franchise turned out in the sequels.  :down:

That explains. I didn't know Man of Action weren't doing the sequel. It would have been better Ben and Gwen fighting, at some point in the story, Kevin then he starts gradually being their friend every time they encounter him.



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Posted 14 January 2017 - 03:11 AM

That explains. I didn't know Man of Action weren't doing the sequel. It would have been better Ben and Gwen fighting, at some point in the story, Kevin then he starts gradually being their friend every time they encounter him.

 

The original idea was this.

 

  • Man of Action's idea for the sequel series was Ben 10: Hero Generation, in which a teenage Ben and Gwen would become mentors to a group of kids with mysterious alien powers. However, Cartoon Network gave the sequel project over to Glen Murikami and Dwayne McDuffie, and Ben 10: Alien Force was developed instead. While some remnants of Man of Action's concept can be found with the "Plumber's Helpers" characters, they take a backseat to the action and are not mentored by Ben and Gwen, who instead fight evil alongside a reformed Kevin instead.

 

Its basically the alien version of x men.



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Posted 14 January 2017 - 03:17 AM

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Posted 14 January 2017 - 10:21 PM

 

The original idea was this.

 

  • Man of Action's idea for the sequel series was Ben 10: Hero Generation, in which a teenage Ben and Gwen would become mentors to a group of kids with mysterious alien powers. However, Cartoon Network gave the sequel project over to Glen Murikami and Dwayne McDuffie, and Ben 10: Alien Force was developed instead. While some remnants of Man of Action's concept can be found with the "Plumber's Helpers" characters, they take a backseat to the action and are not mentored by Ben and Gwen, who instead fight evil alongside a reformed Kevin instead.

 

Its basically the alien version of x men.

That's a lot more interesting.



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Posted 15 January 2017 - 01:58 AM

Huh. If Ben and Gwen weren't supposed to be related, than sure I' could dig it! :yes:


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Posted 16 January 2017 - 03:20 PM

Huh. If Ben and Gwen weren't supposed to be related, than sure I' could dig it! :yes:

 

It says it  here

 

  • Gwen was initially written as an unrelated classmate who happened to be friends with Ben. It is unknown why she became a cousin instead; it was probably because if Gwen were a family relative rather than just a friend, then it would be easier to justify her being on a long road trip with Ben and Max. This Development Gag is referenced in the What If? episode "Goodbye and Good Riddance", where Ben and Gwen become classmates at the end of the episode in order to better combat villains that might attack their hometown.


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Posted 16 January 2017 - 03:34 PM

 

 

It says it  here

 

  • Gwen was initially written as an unrelated classmate who happened to be friends with Ben. It is unknown why she became a cousin instead; it was probably because if Gwen were a family relative rather than just a friend, then it would be easier to justify her being on a long road trip with Ben and Max. This Development Gag is referenced in the What If? episode "Goodbye and Good Riddance", where Ben and Gwen become classmates at the end of the episode in order to better combat villains that might attack their hometown.

 

I wish they didn't make her a cousin cause they could've told that her parents and Ben's parents are close friends. That way it would be justified.

Many do this, especially during Summer vacation, with their children knowing each other's family. Then Part 2 would have been smooth in plot still.


Edited by T XD, 16 January 2017 - 03:36 PM.


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Posted 19 January 2017 - 11:47 PM

I wish they didn't make her a cousin cause they could've told that her parents and Ben's parents are close friends. That way it would be justified.

Many do this, especially during Summer vacation, with their children knowing each other's family. Then Part 2 would have been smooth in plot still.

 

Many people do critic that ben and gwen should have not been cousins And i somewhat agree but at the same time having cousins fall in love in kids show is a unique concept. I guess man of action didn't really think of it through and just randomly thought making them cousins was a better idea to them.


Edited by rikakim94, 19 January 2017 - 11:52 PM.


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Posted 20 January 2017 - 01:31 AM

 

Many people do critic that ben and gwen should have not been cousins And i somewhat agree but at the same time having cousins fall in love in kids show is a unique concept. I guess man of action didn't really think of it through and just randomly thought making them cousins was a better idea to them.

There are people who see it like incest. Maybe that's why they didn't want  them end up together.



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Posted 20 January 2017 - 04:09 AM

There are people who see it like incest. Maybe that's why they didn't want  them end up together.

 

Yeah they don't want to take risk and its a kid show so kids might complain to there parents.



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Posted 05 April 2017 - 01:54 AM

Im curious is there other ships that anyone else ships aside from ben and gwen? I don't ship any other ship because neither interest me and they are very poorly written like kevin and gwen and ben x other girls.


Edited by rikakim94, 05 April 2017 - 01:58 AM.


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Posted 05 April 2017 - 09:07 AM

Im curious is there other ships that anyone else ships aside from ben and gwen? I don't ship any other ship because neither interest me and they are very poorly written like kevin and gwen and ben x other girls.

I'm sure there are fictions on Grandpa x Gwen / Ben and Grandpa x Kevin.



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Posted 18 May 2017 - 05:52 AM

Apparently someone sold this sticker. :ohmy:  :chuckle:

 

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 02:03 PM

Apparently someone sold this sticker. :ohmy:  :chuckle:

 

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How did that sticker got to be produced and sold ?



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Posted 19 May 2017 - 07:10 PM

How did that sticker got to be produced and sold ?

 

I have no idea, apparently its a stolen art from deviant that was made into a boot leg sticker at a 99 cents store.

Its crazy that this item wasn't banned.



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Posted 18 October 2017 - 04:40 AM

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I met the creators of ben 10 they made a drawing for me!

 

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I also got a signature from ben 10s voice actress tara strong!



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Posted 18 October 2017 - 04:45 AM

I asked them about the strange subtext regarding ben and gwen they apparently told me that they never ever intended ben and gwen to be unrelated to one another, They always intended them to be family of some sort like brother and sister. This really raised my eye brows ben and gwen flirt slightly with each other and at times gwen seems jealous whenever ben is with another girl. I even told them that in a commentary video of a old ben 10 dvd episode they admitted that gwen was suppose to be an unrelated classmate hence the weird tension between ben and gwen. They told me they never stated that.  :ermm:      

 

They are aware of the weird porn art between ben and gwen but they see that as nothing more than fan made same could be said about the subtext which i do not agree with.


Edited by rikakim94, 18 October 2017 - 04:48 AM.





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