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QUOTE (PachucoDesigns @ Apr 2 2012, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Impulsive is to act without thought, a rejection of your idea that thought was put into this before. It is not a claim in and of itself. The only "evidence" that I need here is the idea that no thought process regarding her love for him, let alone a time frame of its consideration, is presented. So I have no justifiable reason to believe you.
Based on the series of events that you just laid out, this does not suggest her giving her love for him any manner of thought. All it suggests is that she feels guilty for his pain, wants to opt out of her contribution to that pain, and to spare his feelings. It says nothing about whether her "I don't love Sasuke anymore, I love you" statement was completely true. In fact, it doesn't suggest that it is true at all. The only reason I even give it partial believability is from other interactions with Naruto that came before this, not from the reasoning you just gave me.
Once again, if I make no claims, I have nothing to prove. You say that she was in the state of mind to consider these things, and that she had to time, therefore she did and was honest. This is called begging the question, and it is a logical fallacy. You have based your reasoning behind your claim on blind assumptions which have not met the burden of proof themselves. You show me that she did have the time to consider it. You show me that she was calm enough to approach it, and had thought it through. Because the evidence is not plain for everyone to see, not without using logical fallacies in your reasoning. And my rejection of your claim based on those fallacies is not only reasonable, it's correct.
Her intentions were never the issue here. Her intentions were good. The issue here was whether or not her confession was purely honest. And there is a lack of evidence to suggest that it was.
Based on the series of events that you just laid out, this does not suggest her giving her love for him any manner of thought. All it suggests is that she feels guilty for his pain, wants to opt out of her contribution to that pain, and to spare his feelings. It says nothing about whether her "I don't love Sasuke anymore, I love you" statement was completely true. In fact, it doesn't suggest that it is true at all. The only reason I even give it partial believability is from other interactions with Naruto that came before this, not from the reasoning you just gave me.
Once again, if I make no claims, I have nothing to prove. You say that she was in the state of mind to consider these things, and that she had to time, therefore she did and was honest. This is called begging the question, and it is a logical fallacy. You have based your reasoning behind your claim on blind assumptions which have not met the burden of proof themselves. You show me that she did have the time to consider it. You show me that she was calm enough to approach it, and had thought it through. Because the evidence is not plain for everyone to see, not without using logical fallacies in your reasoning. And my rejection of your claim based on those fallacies is not only reasonable, it's correct.
Her intentions were never the issue here. Her intentions were good. The issue here was whether or not her confession was purely honest. And there is a lack of evidence to suggest that it was.
You asked me to to to prove that her actions weren't impulsive, not to justify if her confession was totally honest or not. PLUS this is where you juggle your thoughts like rubber balls; not able making up your mind whether she loves Naruto or not. You throw your points back and forth from she loves Naruto to she was babying him and talking to him like a child and that counts as she does not see him romantically. So that's your problem not mine. And You ask me to show proof that that she had the time to consider those things and I did. If it's not valid enough for you prove me wrong. YOU prove to ME that it WAS impulsive and that she did not given any thought to her actions or considered his feelings, or are you such a hypocrite to talk all high and mighty about how you justify your views by evidence in a debate but don't do it your self? And while we're on the subject of evidence all we''re arguing about is based on speculation so you have no more rightful claim of being correct than I am. I apologize Kages. He was infuriating me I'll stop with this post.
Edited by Phantom_999, 04 April 2012 - 02:52 AM.
