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[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

This isn't Kishimoto's doing, this is Ikemoto's.

 

Like I said before he has terrible sense of design/ascetics/whatever term you want to use. 

 

Kishimoto for his girls generally came up with a theme or an idea but still made sure they were both attractive and practical. Ikemoto goes for what he thinks will looks sexy and cool, and try-hard coolness mattered more than the outfit making sense for a fight.

I thought he made the Minato one shot?

[Bail o' Lies]

I thought he made the Minato one shot?

Oh I thought you were talking about Sarada's new design. ikemoto is still in charge of Boruto.

 

As far as I'm concerned The oneshot shouldn't hopefully boost sales for Boruto part two. In fact if it doesn't and it clear that the oneshot was well received it hopefully damage Boruto even more.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 18 July 2023 - 11:28 PM.

[Luna]

After all these years I think people deep down know that NS was supposed to be but they prefered another shipping.  Like is been so long since the ending and people are still trheatened by a dead ship. Any NS content on tiktok that I see the comments are filled with:

 

"Soul mates (Best Friends)"

 

"Besties"

 

"They truly belongtogether as best friends"

 

And the scene could be explicitly Naruto saying he loves Sakura to Sai or the fmale ninja lmaooo9

[LuckyChi7]

After all these years I think people deep down know that NS was supposed to be but they prefered another shipping.  Like is been so long since the ending and people are still trheatened by a dead ship. Any NS content on tiktok that I see the comments are filled with:

 

"Soul mates (Best Friends)"

 

"Besties"

 

"They truly belongtogether as best friends"

 

And the scene could be explicitly Naruto saying he loves Sakura to Sai or the fmale ninja lmaooo9

 

 

Tell me about it there's just so much about Naruto and Sakura's bond that tells me that they were meant for so much more than just simply best friends. 

[RedFaction]

After all these years I think people deep down know that NS was supposed to be but they prefered another shipping.  Like is been so long since the ending and people are still trheatened by a dead ship. Any NS content on tiktok that I see the comments are filled with:
 
"Soul mates (Best Friends)"
 
"Besties"
 
"They truly belongtogether as best friends"
 
And the scene could be explicitly Naruto saying he loves Sakura to Sai or the fmale ninja lmaooo9

The just "best friends" or "siblings" arguments never held any water and the proof is in Boruto where there isn't a single moment of them acting that way with each other.

Their interactions are kept to a minimum because their old relationship dynamic simply no longer exists and had to be buried.

Edited by RedFaction, 19 July 2023 - 06:51 AM.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 

 

Tell me about it there's just so much about Naruto and Sakura's bond that tells me that they were meant for so much more than just simply best friends. 

 

 

All the parallels Minato and Kushina had with each other in the one-shot DEFINITELY reflects what was meant to be endgame!

[LuckyChi7]

 

 

All the parallels Minato and Kushina had with each other in the one-shot DEFINITELY reflects what was meant to be endgame!

 

 

You can say that again!  Everything was right there! 

Edited by LuckyChi7, 19 July 2023 - 05:14 PM.

[Luna]

I'm still confused as to how NaruHina parrellels MinaKushi. Hinata is NOTHING like Minato at all. 

[Derock]

I'm still confused as to how NaruHina parrellels MinaKushi. Hinata is NOTHING like Minato at all. 

 

I don't know why they used Hinata into the equation. Obviously we knew Kushina = Sakura with a bit of Naruto in her, but now we're seeing Minato in his younger years more like his son in terms of weirdness (his long naming for example) and we knew Naruto has that quality. Hinata doesn't even fit into anything at all!

[RedFaction]

I think it is in part because NaruSaku is a dead pairing so they think there is no way anything could be paralled to a dead pairing. Everything in this series has to have a parallel so the only choice for them is NaruHina, and they aren't going to get any pushback on that either because most of what remains of the Naruto fandom is pro-NH or neutral.

[Bail o' Lies]

That answer that is simple. Kushina and Minato have a happy health perfect relationship made even clearer by the one-shot. That are suppose to foreshadow how Naruto's relationship will end up as well as who he ends up marrying.

 

There is an old adage that one will end up marrying someone like their parents. Clearly that was at work in Naruto.

 

Sakura's father was a goofy man so Sakura should end up marrying a goofy Naruto. Naruto's mother was hot tempered, so he should marry the hot tempered Sakura.

 

MK and NS were both based off Kishimoto's own relationship. MK is just more mature, further along, and doesn't have the conflict Sasuke brought to it. The only problem they have, that was introduced by the one-shot, is that Kushina is trapped in a barrier. Which its implied Minato eventually solved by both strengthen her seal, and getting rid of that law so they could always be together.

 

So again, 'The Story of Naruto,' implies that Naruto will live a happy life if he gets into a relationship like his parents had. Obviously that being NS, you have to be either an idiot or deliberately refusing to accept that to not know that. So, the nH fans want to convince both themselves and everyone else that, it wasn't NS that MK was foreshadowing and paralleling to but nH. Sarcasm: Because, it so obvious to everyone that Hinata is exactly like Minato and/or Kushina. Also, ignore that fact that Kushina has cease to exist in Boruto to help bury the fact that, Hinata is nothing like her.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 01 August 2023 - 05:15 AM.

[Nostradamus]

Kishimoto is at his strongest in short self contained stories.

This comment is what people should always keep in mind when talking about Kishi's writing.

He's only good when it comes to 1 short story that is contained.

[Serenity Namikaze]

I was finally able to read the complete one shot of Minato and I must admit, it really did blew my mind!!! Not just about Minato and Kushina but to see again the symbolism underneath the messages delivered here and there, Kishimoto really did bring back the big gun again! 

 

It suck that it probably won't have the same support thanks to the original story being screwed over and most of the fans left pissed off  won't come back for this one shot as it really deserve the support. Still, I hope the sales will be somewhat good, it would be great to check that out once we have some numbers 

 

I'll most probably buy this one shot once it's available as I really enjoy it! 

[LuckyChi7]

I was finally able to read the complete one shot of Minato and I must admit, it really did blew my mind!!! Not just about Minato and Kushina but to see again the symbolism underneath the messages delivered here and there, Kishimoto really did bring back the big gun again! 
 
It suck that it probably won't have the same support thanks to the original story being screwed over and most of the fans left pissed off  won't come back for this one shot as it really deserve the support. Still, I hope the sales will be somewhat good, it would be great to check that out once we have some numbers 
 
I'll most probably buy this one shot once it's available as I really enjoy it! 

I know on mangaplus its currently ranked #7.

So its definitely in the top 10, which for a one shot is really pretty amazing!

[Nefertieh]

Hullo everybody, its been a very, very long time. Good to see people are still here!

Ive been feeling nostalgic recently and Ive jumped back into reading about NS. Just some thoughts:

1. I cant help but feel like Sakuras increased popularity was partially because people have become more sympathetic. Her daughter has issues. Shes in limbo, both a single mother, but not technically single (so it isnt like shes free to find someone in her life). Naruto lied to her about liking her. She came from nothing and ended up with nothing. Maybe that kind of life resonates with the now older fandom?

Meanwhile, Hinata seems like shes currently living a privileged life with everything. People dont feel bad for her anymore, shes no longer the poor girl in the background. The stuff that made her seem interesting isnt there anymore.

2. Theres always been an undercurrent of misogyny, but its more apparent after the ending. Kishmoto saying how a woman who changes who she likes is terrible. Wait, what?

Edited by Nefertieh, 20 July 2023 - 01:19 PM.

[LuckyChi7]

Hullo everybody, its been a very, very long time. Good to see people are still here!

Ive been feeling nostalgic recently and Ive jumped back into reading about NS. Just some thoughts:

1. I cant help but feel like Sakuras increased popularity was partially because people have become more sympathetic. Her daughter has issues. Shes in limbo, both a single mother, but not technically single (so it isnt like shes free to find someone in her life). Naruto lied to her about liking her. She came from nothing and ended up with nothing. Maybe that kind of life resonates with the now older fandom?

Meanwhile, Hinata seems like shes currently living a privileged life with everything. People dont feel bad for her anymore, shes no longer the poor girl in the background. The stuff that made her seem interesting isnt there anymore.

2. Theres always been an undercurrent of misogyny, but its more apparent after the ending. Kishmoto saying how a woman who changes who she likes is terrible. Wait, what?

 

 

Hey it's great to see you again, 

 

I've been having the same thoughts when it comes to Sakura's popularity and I do feel like it's also for that reason of the fanbase being a lot more sympathetic due to for the reasons you've brought up. It definitely resonated with the now older fans in the fanbase. 

 

 

That whole comment from Kishi never really sat well with me, it was always a rather odd thing and really didn't set a great precedent as an author.  

[Bail o' Lies]

Hullo everybody, its been a very, very long time. Good to see people are still here!

I've been feeling nostalgic recently and I've jumped back into reading about NS. Just some thoughts:

1. I cant help but feel like Sakura's increased popularity was partially because people have become more sympathetic. Her daughter has issues. She's in limbo, both a single mother, but not technically single (so it isnt like shes free to find someone in her life). Naruto lied to her about liking her. She came from nothing and ended up with nothing. Maybe that kind of life resonates with the now older fandom?

Meanwhile, Hinata seems like she's currently living a privileged life with everything. People don't feel bad for her anymore, she's no longer the poor girl in the background. The stuff that made her seem interesting isnt there anymore.

2. There's always been an undercurrent of misogyny, but its more apparent after the ending. Kishmoto saying how a woman who changes who she likes is terrible. Wait, what?

Hello person who hasn't been on since before I joined this site. Did you enjoy the one-shot?

 

1. Her daughter may have some daddy issues, but she is still the most likeable of the new main cast. Mitsuki, Orochimaru's son is just Sai with worshiping Boruto being his entire character; he is the second most positively received. Kawaki is Sasuke but the author's avatar this time. And, Boruto is a spoiled Naruto with behavior you can see a lot in fanfic that try to 'fix' Naruto and make him better; IE he whines and has hissy fits non-stop while thinking he better and more morally right than anyone else. Comparatively, Sarada is Sakura 2.0  with all her flaws removed (not saying that is a good thing,) her daddy issue are understandable as well as being delt with quickly unlike Boruto's which just drag on, and she has a goal of being Hokage. Compared to her teammates' wants: to be her top enforcer because Boruto thinks Sasuke is cool, Mitsiki's just continuing to worship Boruto, and Kawaki's...something something kill Boruto which if he wasn't so stupid I be very supportive of.

 

It also helps that she is the best parent of the main cast, besides Orochimaru: Sasuke literally avoided his family for 12 years, Naruto neglected his to focus on his job, and Hinata passively allowed her family situation to get worse.

 

Granted Hinata having everything she ever wanted given to her and still does nothing probably hasn't helped her. When her defenders normally relied on pity because she was clearly the most oppressed character ever.

 

2. I always took that statement to be something his editors and assistance said in arguments to convince him to go with nH/SS. "Kishimoto-sensei, Sakura can't abandon her love for Sasuke or the fans will see her as a terrible woman." Not helped that is also the clear line of thought that exist in the Last. It is what Sakura's speech to Naruto boils down to. He said it in an interview because that's what he was convinced his fans believed, and what the Last was based on. Of course that backfired, especially in Japan. Of course, it not who said it first but is heard saying it that gets the blame, and he really should have never said it in the first place.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 02 November 2023 - 10:11 AM.

[RedFaction]

Hullo everybody, its been a very, very long time. Good to see people are still here!

Ive been feeling nostalgic recently and Ive jumped back into reading about NS. Just some thoughts:

1. I cant help but feel like Sakuras increased popularity was partially because people have become more sympathetic. Her daughter has issues. Shes in limbo, both a single mother, but not technically single (so it isnt like shes free to find someone in her life). Naruto lied to her about liking her. She came from nothing and ended up with nothing. Maybe that kind of life resonates with the now older fandom?

Meanwhile, Hinata seems like shes currently living a privileged life with everything. People dont feel bad for her anymore, shes no longer the poor girl in the background. The stuff that made her seem interesting isnt there anymore.

2. Theres always been an undercurrent of misogyny, but its more apparent after the ending. Kishmoto saying how a woman who changes who she likes is terrible. Wait, what?

Hi there,

 

I am not sure if it is sympathy that is driving Sakura's popularity in the Naruto fandom. I thought that it is more so Sasuke fans that are sticking up for their favorite character's girl more than anything else; as if there is going to be a heroine in the story they'd rather it be Sasuke's love interest than Naruto's.

 

You could be right though it is hard to say for me as I am completely out of touch what the larger fandom is talking about anymore.

[totherpage95]

I rewatched the third naruto movie and it was amazing and I especially liked in the end credits when naruto and sakura are sitting in a tree

i miss when naruto wasn't about aliens fighting humans and all this overpowered stuff

Edited by totherpage95, 20 July 2023 - 09:17 PM.

[LuckyChi7]

I rewatched the third naruto movie and it was amazing and I especially liked in the end credits when naruto and sakura are sitting in a tree

i miss when naruto wasn't about aliens fighting humans and all this overpowered stuff

I honestly missed the whole aspect of the characters actually feeling like Ninjas.

Cause we just completely threw that out the window when we got like mid way through the timeskip.