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[Illnevergiveup3]

could someone explain why the budget affects animation and their art?

[Dalton.T.R]

I'm a little confused on that myself.

[TheFirstEvil100]

I have no idea, but if I remember in the episode that had Hinata confess her love for Naruto, and then the forced back story with her getting picked on oddly by three bullies, the same as Sakura's back story with her getting bullied. Anyway, from what I remember, and this was a long time ago, but SP did work far better on Hinata's episodes or anything that had her play big moments.

[Derock]

I have no idea, but if I remember in the episode that had Hinata confess her love for Naruto, and then the forced back story with her getting picked on oddly by three bullies, the same as Sakura's back story with her getting bullied. Anyway, from what I remember, and this was a long time ago, but SP did work far better on Hinata's episodes or anything that had her play big moments.

 

The actual episode goes like this:

• The whole episode was about Hinata and her confession
• The team added a filler flashback on how she fell in love with Naruto when she was being picked on by three kids and he "tried" to save her, mind you, that back in Part 1, the Hyuga family was basically royalty.
• Speaking of the royalty status, the only thing was correct was Hiashi mistreated her because of her shy personality. But because they want her to be interesting to the audience, they ignored Sakura's situation of being bullied because of her forehead and give Hinata a situation of her being bullied by others, which was downright stupid in both the kids and in the writer's perspective.  Why would you write about that for her when she was supposed to be royal status for the Leaf?
• Did I mentioned that she had a lolicon design as a child?
• Then the unnecessary "determine to save Naruto" fight scene with the "Sailor Hinata hair" animation because the one-hit KO from Pain in the manga most likely pissed off the Hinata fandom at Studio Pierrot and want her to look pretty while being beaten up. 

So SP use the animation resources to make sure Hinata looks as gorgeous as possible for her episode. And when we get to the actual hyped episode of Naruto (Tailed-Beast 5-6 Mode) Vs. Pain, well.. you guys saw what happened.

 

Also, I mentioned before but have you noticed on The Last, it is very similar to that flashback.

[TheFirstEvil100]

 

The actual episode goes like this:

• The whole episode was about Hinata and her confession
• The team added a filler flashback on how she fell in love with Naruto when she was being picked on by three kids and he "tried" to save her, mind you, that back in Part 1, the Hyuga family was basically royalty.
• Speaking of the royalty status, the only thing was correct was Hiashi mistreated her because of her shy personality. But because they want her to be interesting to the audience, they ignored Sakura's situation of being bullied because of her forehead and give Hinata a situation of her being bullied by others, which was downright stupid in both the kids and in the writer's perspective.  Why would you write about that for her when she was supposed to be royal status for the Leaf?
• Did I mentioned that she had a lolicon design as a child?
• Then the unnecessary "determine to save Naruto" fight scene with the "Sailor Hinata hair" animation because the one-hit KO from Pain in the manga most likely pissed off the Hinata fandom at Studio Pierrot and want her to look pretty while being beaten up. 

So SP use the animation resources to make sure Hinata looks as gorgeous as possible for her episode. And when we get to the actual hyped episode of Naruto (Tailed-Beast 5-6 Mode) Vs. Pain, well.. you guys saw what happened.

 

Also, I mentioned before but have you noticed on The Last, it is very similar to that flashback.

Thanks, Derock, for clearing it all up as I blocked much of it from my mind as I only remember a few things.

 

But yeah, again it never made sense why someone would pick on Hinata when her clan is royalty.

[Derock]

I also forgot she had a bodyguard who didn't do s*** but chastised Naruto who was trying to "save" her.

[Dalton.T.R]

I recently re-watched and re-read the series, and the amount of BS SP went through to make Hinata come off as a good character was just disgusting. EVERYTHING Hinata ever did up to the Pain fight was get her ass handed to her. Sure she had a few good moments, but they were few and far in between. Her character existed to get beaten up by Neji in part 1 and that was basically it. 

 

Then, in Shippuden, you never SAW Hinata! Anywhere! Even during the crappy Sora filler ark she was nowhere to be found. I admit I skipped a lot of the filler stuff, but I watched the Sora one just for nostalgia sake. Even some comments I've made on a few YouTube channels have her loyal servants coming out to defend her, but I don't put up with their BS. I'm not against bashing the kitten out of her character because she always was useless in my view, and I don't hesitate to point out the many reasons why. 

 

For all the crap people love to give Sakura, SHE AT LEAST STILL DID kitten! JESUS! Between just saving Koncuro and defeating Sasori, she's already done more than Hinata did through the whole damn series! Once again, Hinata's character existed to be a punching bag and little else. And the fact the overwhelming reason she was so "popular" to begin with was just because she had boobs really speaks volumes about the maturity of her fanbase.

 

I literally forgot how annoying her fans are until they came out of the woodwork trying to defend her. They will literally pull anything out of their asses to make Hinata look good and make Sakura look bad. For example: the most recent cuffuffle I had with one of her fans was them trying to say Sakura never respected Naruto. EXUSE THE kitten OUTA ME?!?! Sakura was willing to fail the Chuniin Exams so Naruto wouldn't lose his one and only dream of becoming Hokage. 

I kid you not, this person literally responded saying, "It didn't matter. The examiner said the 10th question didn't matter in the same episode."

 

So, we're expecting Sakura to be kittening physic now and be able to see 10 minutes into the future? 

 

This person then proceeded to tell me "Hinata was willing to let Naruto cheat off her papers." 

 

Yes, and if he had gotten caught, he and the rest of Team 7 would have been removed from the test, not to mention Hinata's team would've likely gotten in trouble too. I explained to them, in detail, why Hinata's actions were selfish and Sakura's selfless, but as usual it was like arguing with a toddler. 

 

Obviously, this is just one example out of hundreds, but the point still stood. 

 

I know bashing technically isn't allowed on this site, but I needed to vent.

 

Even my girlfriend, who doesn't watch a lot of anime thinks these people are nuts! 

[Kagomaru]

 

The actual episode goes like this:

• The whole episode was about Hinata and her confession
• The team added a filler flashback on how she fell in love with Naruto when she was being picked on by three kids and he "tried" to save her, mind you, that back in Part 1, the Hyuga family was basically royalty.
• Speaking of the royalty status, the only thing was correct was Hiashi mistreated her because of her shy personality. But because they want her to be interesting to the audience, they ignored Sakura's situation of being bullied because of her forehead and give Hinata a situation of her being bullied by others, which was downright stupid in both the kids and in the writer's perspective.  Why would you write about that for her when she was supposed to be royal status for the Leaf?
• Did I mentioned that she had a lolicon design as a child?
• Then the unnecessary "determine to save Naruto" fight scene with the "Sailor Hinata hair" animation because the one-hit KO from Pain in the manga most likely pissed off the Hinata fandom at Studio Pierrot and want her to look pretty while being beaten up. 

So SP use the animation resources to make sure Hinata looks as gorgeous as possible for her episode. And when we get to the actual hyped episode of Naruto (Tailed-Beast 5-6 Mode) Vs. Pain, well.. you guys saw what happened.

 

Also, I mentioned before but have you noticed on The Last, it is very similar to that flashback.

And in the filler flashback, didn't they show Naruto creating actual Shadow Clones to use on bullies? Y'know, the technique that he never knew about until he was twelve and whose lesser variation he sucked at?

[Therece]

Sakura still have the power to sold out her merch after 8 years.

 

https://twitter.com/...0934510592?s=20

 

 

it's Sakura fictional Birthday too.

I find funny how they ignored others characters includind the own Boruto's birthday to announce new Sakura official products  At least they know how Sakura is much more profitable than Hinata now.

 

 

https://twitter.com/...9918785536?s=20

Edited by Therece, 28 March 2023 - 02:25 PM.

[BlueStarSaber]

Say I'm arguing with some who is a non shipper about how well planned the series. During which the topic of shipping he said that road to ninja was supposed to build of on what would be the canon romance, but changed to a mainto and kushina movie due to their popularity.

With the last being a scrapes ideas for part 3 or the war with toneri and the hyuga. Does anyone know how true this is? Because the road to ninja stuff sounds ridiculous to me.

[Derock]

And in the filler flashback, didn't they show Naruto creating actual Shadow Clones to use on bullies? Y'know, the technique that he never knew about until he was twelve and whose lesser variation he sucked at?

 

I don't remember but then again, if it did happen, then they were basically rehash that filler flashback for The Last to be "canon".

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 

I don't remember but then again, if it did happen, then they were basically rehash that filler flashback for The Last to be "canon".

 

Yup, which irritates me too that they had to do that. And shows how the writers of The Last knew jack and crap about "Naruto" as a franchise.

[Phantom_999]

Its like they don't even read the manga. Or respect the canon, that was established long before they ever made this anime adaptation. Oh wait, THEY DON'T.

Edited by Phantom_999, 01 April 2023 - 10:23 AM.

[Derock]

 

Yup, which irritates me too that they had to do that. And shows how the writers of The Last knew jack and crap about "Naruto" as a franchise.

 

Exactly. Those people disrespected the franchise. It's fine to add filler but not the kind of filler to make your own changes that would screw up plots.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 

Exactly. Those people disrespected the franchise. It's fine to add filler but not the kind of filler to make your own changes that would screw up plots.

 

Oh yeah!

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

To quote from an obscure Disney show Dave the Barbarian... "I knew love was blind but I didn't know it was stupid too." That's NaruHina in a nutshell.

[Therece]

I think every sane NH fan hate The Last. The movie didn't made any favour to NH aside the ridiculous kiss.

 

Hinata suicided herself  against Pein. 

Kishimoto killed Neji just for Naruto hold hinata hands for some seconds.

 

But Naruto still ignores Hinata two years after the war.

He is a retarded who thinks Hinata loves him like a food and needs a genjutsu and Sakura's help to finally loves Hinata back.

 

The Last  ignored the little development NH had in manga.

Pierrot pratically created their own version of NH.

Edited by Therece, 03 April 2023 - 05:33 AM.

[TheFirstEvil100]

The First Naruto chapter came out on October 4th, 1999, and if we skip to when Hinata first showed up in chapter 34, which came out on June 19th, 2000.

 

Now if we look at the anime which started in 2002 in October, the 3rd had Hinata in the first episode.

 

Clearly, this shows right from the start, SP had favoritism toward Hinata. Now this might not be true, and I could be overthinking this, but I think SP was trying to set up Hinata the moment they got their hands on this manga thanks to all the filler that had Hinata and painted her in a better light than all the other girls.

[Derock]

The First Naruto chapter came out on October 4th, 1999, and if we skip to when Hinata first showed up in chapter 34, which came out on June 19th, 2000.

 

Now if we look at the anime which started in 2002 in October, the 3rd had Hinata in the first episode.

 

Clearly, this shows right from the start, SP had favoritism toward Hinata. Now this might not be true, and I could be overthinking this, but I think SP was trying to set up Hinata the moment they got their hands on this manga thanks to all the filler that had Hinata and painted her in a better light than all the other girls.

 

I wouldn't count that. I mean because not only her, but Sasuke, Sakura, Shikamaru, Chouji, Ino, Shino and Kiba was shown on the first and 3rd episodes to give more clarity of who were Naruto's classmates in the Ninja Academy before he became a Genin.  It made sense canon-wise because none (except a "cameo" of Sasuke) were shown on the debut manga chapter, they were just random kids (especially the clone final exam scene, both Shikamaru and Ino were the replacements of 2 random boys complaining at Naruto for Iruka's pop exam). We knew Sasuke and Sakura's official debuts were in chapter 3. The others came in later during the beginning of the Chunin Exams.

[BlueStarSaber]

I think every sane NH fan hate The Last. The movie didn't made any favour to NH aside the ridiculous kiss.
 
Hinata suicided herself  against Pein. 
Kishimoto killed Neji just for Naruto hold hinata hands for some seconds.
 
But Naruto still ignores Hinata two years after the war.
He is a retarded who thinks Hinata loves him like a food and needs a genjutsu and Sakura's help to finally loves Hinata back.
 
The Last  ignored the little development NH had in manga.
Pierrot pratically created their own version of NH.

  

Well according to James s cassidy most haven't even watched it, they just care more that their ship is canon

I wouldn't count that. I mean because not only her, but Sasuke, Sakura, Shikamaru, Chouji, Ino, Shino and Kiba was shown on the first and 3rd episodes to give more clarity of who were Naruto's classmates in the Ninja Academy before he became a Genin.  It made sense canon-wise because none (except a "cameo" of Sasuke) were shown on the debut manga chapter, they were just random kids (especially the clone final exam scene, both Shikamaru and Ino were the replacements of 2 random boys complaining at Naruto for Iruka's pop exam). We knew Sasuke and Sakura's official debuts were in chapter 3. The others came in later during the beginning of the Chunin Exams.

I'd would probably argue that the scenes they added put her in a more favorable light than sakura, as the first episode we learn about her crush on naruto before we learn about his on sakura in episode 3