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[ciardha]

Sasuke would need to have a teleportation jutsu to do that. 

 

And I agree with most of you, it's obvious Obito will save Sakura, probably just by pushing her at the beginning of next chapter. If something big was supposed to happen, like Sakura being hurt by Madara's shot, it would have happen at the end of this chapter, and that would have been the cliffhanger. Her not having been hurt in this chapter, makes me think she won't be in the next one. 

 

I think the focus of the next chapter will be a confrontation between Obito and Madara, maybe with Sakura's help for Obito. 

 

I agree

 

1) There's no evidence that Sasuke even saw Madara jump there

2) It makes narrative sense for Obito to save Sakura by sending her out of the kamui dimension- he couldn't save Rin, but he does Sakura, giving him a bit of emotional closure on that trauma

3)Obito needs to have his final confrontation scene with Madara. This gives him that chance.

4) It brings Sakura back to the main point of action

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

lol Well, the present is supposed to succeed where the past had failed, so you can have a Rin parallel and not have Sakura die.

What if Kishi trolls and put Sasuke there?

Just as i thought my intuition was right Kishi placed her again on a damsel and distress situation.

4) It brings Sakura back to the main point of action

Damsel and Distress lol.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 23 April 2014 - 11:06 AM.

[AzureWaters]

 

I agree

 

1) There's no evidence that Sasuke even saw Madara jump there

2) It makes narrative sense for Obito to save Sakura by sending her out of the kamui dimension- he couldn't save Rin, but he does Sakura, giving him a bit of emotional closure on that trauma

3)Obito needs to have his final confrontation scene with Madara. This gives him that chance.

4) It brings Sakura back to the main point of action

Sasuke did see Madara go into kamui. He said a curse when he teleported.

[oksus]

I'm gonna rage hardcore if it's Sasuke that saves Sakura U_U

[James S Cassidy]

 

I agree

 

1) There's no evidence that Sasuke even saw Madara jump there

2) It makes narrative sense for Obito to save Sakura by sending her out of the kamui dimension- he couldn't save Rin, but he does Sakura, giving him a bit of emotional closure on that trauma

3)Obito needs to have his final confrontation scene with Madara. This gives him that chance.

4) It brings Sakura back to the main point of action

Wow, Ciardha, long time no see. Welcome back.

I agree with you. I believe Obito really needs a good send off once and for all and even though Madara may get the other Rinnegan, I believe he is the one going to save Sakura. Which will be interesting to see how this unfolds.

[Inferno180]

Well the Raws were not much compared to those last 3 pages. Wow. I mean Madara stole kakashis eye.

So it was simple Sakura's task was to crush the rinnegan.

The fight was good, nice to see the teamwork.
But Madara stealing kakashis sharigan and jumping to the Kamui dimension.

This is too hard to call what happens. Will obito have enough energy to make her intangible or send her back fast enough? Or will he take the hit?'could sakura resist it?

Even for this cliffhanger, it seems like nothing has gotten closer to the sakura rin parallel if she is in danger now. Will she die? That's only what Kishi knows at this point, but there's still a lot that would spell disaster if she was killed off, aka story elements won't fit they will be left unresolved fate would be an ass to naruto to allow him to fulfill everything but not get with the girl he hoped too. Seriously if she does die,that makes nh even weaker because of how convenient she would be for a role like that.

But that was a shocker. I have a feeling obito will save sakura or she will just get wounded, she cannot outright die.

Poor Kakashi, he lost what made him work with obito. If obito cannot jump fast enough with just his own eye, he can though make someone intangible including himself quickly. I feel he may only use the energy to get her out of there. Perhaps this will be obitos not again I'm not going to let this happen again moment?

So if the rinnegan is coming what will Madara do with kakashis eye? Put it in his forehead? Or

It's almost simple to say how sasukes rinnegan works, if what happened with pains bodies and the edo jinchurki was real by the replicated rinnegan, then all rinnegan could see the same field of vision. Sasuke was able to see all of madaras attacks.

[FireFox]

Why are people suddenly speculating that Sasuke will somehow get to the Kamui dimension and rescue Sakura to have an SS moment? Is there seriously any reason to believe Sasuke can do that or is this just a case of being unnecessarily negative?

 

If I remember correctly with Kamui you either transport other people or transport yourself, but not both at the same time. Besides, I don't see how Sasuke could just jump into Madara's portal when Madara probably focused on opening the portal just enough so that only his body could go in.

 

What is going to be speculated next? That Sasuke will save Sakura while carrying her in his arms?

 

I personally expect Obito to take the hit for Sakura, and somehow get her out of Kamui. I still don't know how he could do it since Madara would be able to cancel any of Obito's kamui techniques. As some said before they do have the fortune of only dealing with Madara's upper body so that might be able to slow him down just enough so that Obito and Sakura can avoid being killed, and get enough time to leave Kamui.

Beats me heck he was ready to left everybody die(including Sakura) and save only Naruto and Jugo and yet people still expect him to care about Sakura   . The only thing Sasuke cares are his goals and Itachi nothing more nothing less . I seriously have to ask this but since when did SS start making sense with their predictions ? Yeah lets hope that Sasuke can jump into that space hole which there is hardly any space for him to fit in or maybe he will jump and stuck his head into Madara's body and pulls him in or lets hope that Sasuke will have the same power as Obito and he will jump in that dimension just to save his cherry blossom princes   . But this will and can happen because nothing can stand on the way of "true love" which is SS right   . But lets ignore that Sasuke at end said kitten or damn it which means he failed at stopping Madara and lets ignore that Madara is already in there just for the sake of SS   .  

 

It seems like some kind of teleportation jutsu and he used it 3 times in the chapter, first time in this panel, then when Madara attacked him and he switched places with his sword and the last time when both Naruto and Sasuke attacked Madara. It looks like a pretty haxx jutsu but it has a limited range as Madara highlighted and that's why he was able to escape.

Madara was talking about Sasuke

If he had a teleportation jutsu then why did he even needed Tobirama in the first place ? I think its just increasing in speed not some teleporting jutsu as Madara said in the end you are fast his comments were more about Sasuke's speed there was no mention of teleportation . 

[oksus]

Theory:
Naruto will save her with FTG.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he marked her when he woke up.

[BlueStarSaber]

Well that was I good cahpter. Love the Naruto and Sasuke teamwork. I wonder what will happen with Sakura and Obito? I can see Obito saving sakura cause he saw Madara coming, how I don't know. Though I do wonder if the rinnegan will be destoryed, if Sakura somehow destorys it I can see Madara targeting her.

Edited by BlueStarSaber, 23 April 2014 - 11:27 AM.

[James S Cassidy]

If he had a teleportation jutsu then why did he even needed Tobirama in the first place ? I think its just increasing in speed not some teleporting jutsu as Madara said in the end you are fast his comments were more about Sasuke's speed there was no mention of teleportation . 

 
I don't think it is teleportation either as the Rinnegan has not been known to use such a technique. If it can, why didn't Madara ever use it? We do know that Sasuke figured that whatever you do to the the "limbo doppelganger" will happen to the user as well when they regroup, so Sasuke basically stabbed the Limbo and the sword materialized inside Madara after the two entities rejoined.
 

Edited by James S Cassidy, 23 April 2014 - 11:33 AM.

[六道仙人]

i don't think that sasuke can teleport himself. Otherwise why he needed to follow Madara when he escaped from them? He's fast but he doesn't use the teleport...

[Awes9]

 

 

If he had a teleportation jutsu then why did he even needed Tobirama in the first place ? I think its just increasing in speed not some teleporting jutsu as Madara said in the end you are fast his comments were more about Sasuke's speed there was no mention of teleportation . 

It was just explained in the chapter his jutsu has a limited range and that's why Madara was able to escape.

His speed and his jutsu are 2 different things, Madara explicitely stated he was starting to understand the specifics of his jutsu, his comment about his speed have nothing to do about his jutsu. When Madara attacked Naruto and Sasuke at the beginning of the chapter Madara stated "he didn't simply move" then when Madara charged Sasuke he got impaled by Sasuke's sword which was left to Naruto look at the last panel page 8 and then Sasuke appeared exactly where the sword was in the last panel page 10 (even Naruto with his sage senses was confused it was clearly not a simple move otherwise Naruto would have noticed it) so he basically switched place with his sword. It may not be ST jutsu but it's clearly something haxx like reality bending or some other kitten but with a limited range.

 

 
I don't think it is teleportation either as the Rinnegan has not been known to use such a technique. If it can, why didn't Madara ever use it? We do know that Sasuke figured that whatever you do to the the "limbo doppelganger" will happen to the user as well when they regroup, so Sasuke basically stabbed the Limbo and the sword materialized inside Madara after the two entities rejoined.
 

it was never stated all the rinnegans have the same eye power;

Edited by Awes9, 23 April 2014 - 11:50 AM.

[Otaru]

I would never thought Madara would go in Kamui himself !

I would never thought he would steal Kakashi's Sharingan do to so !!!

I think we never thought of it carefully, but he wasn't able to do so before taking Kakashi's eye.

We should have predicted it.

 

He attacked Sakura my god some of you were right !

Obito will protect her IMO.

Nobody else can enter Kamui now.

 

Well we wanted Sakura to fight against BZ, she will play damsel in distress again... lol =/

Or maybe she will fight a little ? Kishi ?

 

You know what ?

To me it's almost obvious now.

Kakashi will have that eye in replacement of his Sharingan. Obito will ask Sakura to give it to Kakashi, just like he asked Rin to give his Sharingan to Kakashi back then. The fact that he will protect Sakura may atoned the fact that he wasn't able to protect Rin back then.

 

 

another thought

Maybe the rod will pierce through Sakura, and it'll seem like she's down, but at the last moment she'll use Creation Rebirth and regenerate. I doubt this will happen, but it's a possibility.

 

That would be really cool, but I don't think Kishimoto will do it... fingercrossed... lol

Edited by Otaru, 23 April 2014 - 11:50 AM.

[ramenanmitsu]

It was just explained in the chapter his jutsu has a limited range and that's why Madara was able to escape.
His speed and his jutsu are 2 different things, Madara explicitely stated he was starting to understand the specifics of his jutsu, his comment about his speed have nothing to do about his jutsu. When Madara attacked Naruto and Sasuke at the beginning of the chapter Madara stated "he didn't simply move" then when Madara charged Sasuke he got impaled by Sasuke's sword which was left to Naruto look at the last panel page 8 and then Sasuke appeared exactly where the sword was in the last panel page 10 (even Naruto with his sage senses was confused it was clearly not a simple move otherwise Naruto would have noticed it) so he basically switched place with his sword. It may not be ST jutsu but it's clearly something haxx like reality bending or some other kitten but with a limited range.

In games there are characters that have the ability to bend space-time. Like cutting the space in front of you and suddenly pasting it right next to your enemy. I wonder if that could be Sasuke's ability. I'm re-reading the chapter but it's hard to make sense of his ability,

[TheFirstEvil100]

I have to say this was a really shocking chapter for me, I just hope Sakura won't die or Sasuke does not save her or I will be very angry I mean Kishi needs to let SS die already. I mean if he said Sasuke only cares for himself than he shouldn't save her it should be Naruto or Obito or even Sakura herself I also hope Sakura can destroy the Rinnegan before Madara can get it.

 

I will say this if Sakura is captured by Madara it would be interesting to see what both Naruto and Sasuke would do, with Sasuke we all know he would kill her, just so he can get to Madara just as he did with Karin and Danzo. And this would also show that Sasuke does not care for anyone. While Naruto would do all that he can to save her from Madara.

 

I mean sure it would be bad for Sakura to be captured but since she has no Chakra and Madara is far stronger than her we can let it pass as he is stronger then her, if she is captured by him. 

[oksus]

I have to say this was a really shocking chapter for me, I just hope Sakura won't die or Sasuke does not save her or I will be very angry I mean Kishi needs to let SS die already. I mean if he said Sasuke only cares for himself than he shouldn't save her it should be Naruto or Obito or even Sakura herself I also hope Sakura can destroy the Rinnegan before Madara can get it.
 
I will say this if Sakura is captured by Madara it would be interesting to see what both Naruto and Sasuke would do, with Sasuke we all know he would kill her, just so he can get to Madara just as he did with Karin and Danzo. And this would also show that Sasuke does not care for anyone. While Naruto would do all that he can to save her from Madara.
 
I mean sure it would be bad for Sakura to be captured but since she has no Chakra and Madara is far stronger than her we can let it pass as he is stronger then her, if she is captured by him. 

I highly doubt Sasuke would go through Sakura in order to kill Madara. He might not be the epitome of good, but he aint that bad either.

[Awes9]

An other thing about Sasuke's jutsu : http://www.mangapand...m/naruto/674/12, here are Naruto and Sasuke's positions, Sasuke tells Naruto to "throw that towards him" http://www.mangapand...m/naruto/674/13 and then http://www.mangapand...m/naruto/674/14, there was no move from Sasuke or Naruto and Naruto was aiming at Sasuke. I don't know how he did that but Sasuke made Madara appear between him and Naruto.

 

 

In games there are characters that have the ability to bend space-time. Like cutting the space in front of you and suddenly pasting it right next to your enemy. I wonder if that could be Sasuke's ability. I'm re-reading the chapter but it's hard to make sense of his ability,

 

Could be, maybe it's like some form of Izanagi (not like the diluted version Danzo used) after all RS was a master at that and Sasuke just got part of his power and a different Rinnegan than the one we usually see with the additional tomoe like Juubi's eye and Kaguya's altough they both have 9 tomoe while Sasuke only has 6 but maybe it's just an art inconsistency, at this point we can't make any valid judgments and that's normal Kishi wants to keep his justu a mystery the explanations will be for later but quite frankly it looks like one of the most haxxed jutsu in the manga. 

Edited by Awes9, 23 April 2014 - 12:09 PM.

[Otaru]

Ugh, panels make it look as if Sasuke will save her.

 

No, not at all.

Panels are used to show that the situation is in a hurry.
Panels are used to show in parallel Madara's progress and Sakura's progress.

It's to make us panic.

That's all.

Sasuke can't enter Kamui, and there is nothing that shows that he will save her.

Nobody can enter Kamui now.

That would be total kitten if someone other thatn Obito would save Sakura.

I think this will be used to settled Obi/Rin in a way.

[ramenanmitsu]

I highly doubt Sasuke would go through Sakura in order to kill Madara. He might not be the epitome of good, but he aint that bad either.

Especially not after he declared that he is going to be Hokage and protect Konoha.

I also don't know what this fuss about SasuSaku is all about. If there was any potential SasuSaku scene, I clearly seem to have missed it.

An other thing about Sasuke's jutsu : http://www.mangapand...m/naruto/674/12, here are Naruto and Sasuke's positions, Sasuke tells Naruto to "throw that towards him" http://www.mangapand...m/naruto/674/13 and then http://www.mangapand...m/naruto/674/14, there was no move from Sasuke or Naruto and Naruto was aiming at Sasuke. I don't know how he did that but Sasuke made Madara appear between him and Naruto.

All the more possibility he can bend space-time. That's really badass.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 23 April 2014 - 12:02 PM.

[六道仙人]

An other thing about Sasuke's jutsu : http://www.mangapand...m/naruto/674/12, here are Naruto and Sasuke's positions, Sasuke tells Naruto to "throw that towards him" http://www.mangapand...m/naruto/674/13 and then http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/674/14, there was no move from Sasuke or Naruto and Naruto was aiming at Sasuke. I don't know how he did that but Sasuke made Madara appear between him and Naruto.

 

i think that i've figured... You see that black stick behind madara in page 12? the new sasuke's ability with his rinnegan isn't a telport, but changig the position with some stuff... Sasuke replaced that black stick with himself. He need something in order to change the position. It sounds like an hiraishin version but within a very limitate range.