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[Skilatry]

Since she was born on March 28 and Naruto was born on October 10.

[Canadian_DJ]

yeah 7 months older I guess, since shes in march and hes in october. But that doesnt really matter. Sasukes older than naruto as well.

[KnS]

yeah 7 months older I guess, since shes in march and hes in october. But that doesnt really matter. Sasukes older than naruto as well.

 

For the parallel with the feuding sons of the Sage of the Six Paths to work, Sasuke had to be older than Naruto.  Even if Naruto hadn't been a 10-month pregnancy for Kushina (thanks to her being jinchuriki), he'd still have been the youngest by about two months.

 

Ickle Naruto.

[Canadian_DJ]

For the parallel with the feuding sons of the Sage of the Six Paths to work, Sasuke had to be older than Naruto.  Even if Naruto hadn't been a 10-month pregnancy for Kushina (thanks to her being jinchuriki), he'd still have been the youngest by about two months.
 
Ickle Naruto.

Oh thats interesting, so he had to be younger than both sasuke and sakura?

[desaix]

I thought it was pretty clear that Naruto was younger than Sasuke simply because we saw baby Sasuke being held by young Itachi when Naruto was born.

 

As far as Sakura goes... well, it would make sense for her to be older, based on certain characterizations made early on.  Of course, there are always those people who think the whole "but Naruto failed the exam 3 times!" thing means he must be at least a year older than his classmates (all that means is he took it younger -- though there is a bit of evidence he might have been "up a grade" from the others at one point, since he was noted to have transferred into his graduating class (in Kiba's flashbacks)).

 

Some so-called "fridge logic" is needed to explain some of that, but it makes sense.

Edited by desaix, 19 July 2013 - 08:37 PM.

[K9ofChaos]

Oh thats interesting, so he had to be younger than both sasuke and sakura?

 

 

If I'm not Mistaken, Sakura is older than both Naruto and Sasuke. Sakura was born first, then Sasuke, then finally Naruto was born. Heh, one could argue that Sasuke's birthday being in-between Sakura's and Naruto's counts as symbolism for Sasuke being an obstacle to NaruSaku's potential relationship upgrade in the future if that (or any other pairing/no pairing at all) happens. Your mileage may vary on whether Sasuke is still an obstacle for those two characters or not at this point in the story.  

[desaix]

 

 

If I'm not Mistaken, Sakura is older than both Naruto and Sasuke. Sakura was born first, then Sasuke, then finally Naruto was born. Heh, one could argue that Sasuke's birthday being in-between Sakura's and Naruto's counts as symbolism for Sasuke being an obstacle to NaruSaku's potential relationship upgrade in the future if that (or any other pairing/no pairing at all) happens. Your mileage may vary on whether Sasuke is still an obstacle for those two characters or not at this point in the story.  

 

Well, intending to kill one of them (or rather "erase" one of them) might constitute an obstacle, albeit tangentally.

[redragon88]

Didn't we have this conversation some months ago? I guess I'll just repeat what I said before:

 

A date of birth is no indication of a character being older. Sakura could've easily been born the year after. Unless there's a panel indicating that Sakura was born first (like with Sasuke), or Kishimoto himself confirming it there's no way of knowing.

 

Remember that when they put kids in a class it's not necessarily just the ones born in the same year. I'm sure we've all had classmates born a year before or after. The limit would be for them not to go over a whole year in difference.

 

Actually, if we go by the standards of the school system in Japan Sakura would be the youngest of her class. That's because her birthday is March 28th, and a class formation there involves those born from April 1st of a certain year up until March 31st of the following year.

[ciardha]

But the school year in Naruto is not the same as in Japan. It appears in Naruto's world anyone born in a year enters the Academy the same year. Note Rock Lee was born in December the year before Team 7, 10 and 8 members,  but he's in the same class as Neiji and Tenten. While Shino, born in January of the year Naruto is, is in the same class as Naruto. Chouji was born May 1 of that year and is in the same class as Naruto. If it followed Japanese school schedules both Sakura and Chouji would be in the following years class. Hinata was born in late December of that year and is in the same class. It looks rather clear in Naruto's world the entrance year is January 1- December 31.

 

Note, Tsunade was also several months older than Jiraiya...

[tricksie]

@ciardha, lol read this thread and thought this was your kind of thread!! 

[redragon88]

But the school year in Naruto is not the same as in Japan. It appears in Naruto's world anyone born in a year enters the Academy the same year. Note Rock Lee was born in December the year before Team 7, 10 and 8 members,  but he's in the same class as Neiji and Tenten. While Shino, born in January of the year Naruto is, is in the same class as Naruto. Chouji was born May 1 of that year and is in the same class as Naruto. If it followed Japanese school schedules both Sakura and Chouji would be in the following years class. Hinata was born in late December of that year and is in the same class. It looks rather clear in Naruto's world the entrance year is January 1- December 31.

 

You offer absolutely no proof of that so don't go around saying that it's rather clear when it's not.

 

There's nothing concrete to anything that you said. And since there's no listed year of the birth of characters you can't confirm how close or far they are from each other. I can organize all of those dates you offered accordingly. Let's give fictional years for the sake of argument:

 

April 1, Year 1 - March 31, Year 2 (The class of Lee, Neji and Tenten)

April 1, Year 2 - March 31, Year 3 (The class of the Rookie 9)

 

Lee - Born December, Year 1

Shino - Born January, Year 3

Chouji - Born May, Year 2

Sakura - Born March, Year 3

Naruto - Born October, Year 2

Hinata - Born December, Year 2

 

They all fit into the class organization, at least if it was based on the Japan school system.

 

What you said about Sakura and Chouji being in a different class makes absolutely no sense.

 

Note, Tsunade was also several months older than Jiraiya...

 

Are you trying to prove a point with that? It doesn't change anything that I said above.

[Canadian_DJ]

But the school year in Naruto is not the same as in Japan. It appears in Naruto's world anyone born in a year enters the Academy the same year. Note Rock Lee was born in December the year before Team 7, 10 and 8 members,  but he's in the same class as Neiji and Tenten. While Shino, born in January of the year Naruto is, is in the same class as Naruto. Chouji was born May 1 of that year and is in the same class as Naruto. If it followed Japanese school schedules both Sakura and Chouji would be in the following years class. Hinata was born in late December of that year and is in the same class. It looks rather clear in Naruto's world the entrance year is January 1- December 31.

 

Note, Tsunade was also several months older than Jiraiya...

omg ciardha!! 

[Phantom_999]

If you consider months as older, sure. But they are the same age, so in a sense no, because they will always be the same age within the same year.

[redragon88]

If you consider months as older, sure. But they are the same age, so in a sense no, because they will always be the same age within the same year.

 

Since no year is given to when they were born there's no way to confirm it. Whether Sakura was born the same year or the following year at some point they both share the same age within certain months. In the end it could go either way.

 

Assuming that they were born the same year is just that, an assumption. There's absolutely no information that could be used to support that claim.

Edited by redragon88, 20 July 2013 - 04:55 PM.

[catsi563]

Its not an assumption when you look at eveyr databook which has a list for their actual ages.

 

Sakura, Naruto, and Sasuke are all listed as 15 and a half when part 2 begins.

[redragon88]

Its not an assumption when you look at eveyr databook which has a list for their actual ages.

 

Sakura, Naruto, and Sasuke are all listed as 15 and a half when part 2 begins.

 

You're not offering any proof either. If you want to claim the databook proves it at least bother to explain why.

 

I don't know how them being the same age at the beginning of Part 2 would prove anything. At no point was it ever alluded which time of the year did Part 2 began within the story.

 

That would be the same as me saying "the color of the ocean is blue, look at it" and then offer no explanation as to why I would believe so.

Edited by redragon88, 20 July 2013 - 05:22 PM.

[Dkey]

 

You're not offering any proof either. If you want to claim the databook proves it at least bother to explain why.

 

That would be the same as me saying "the color of the ocean is blue, look at it" and then offer no explanation as to why I would believe so.

 

so what stance do you have on all this affair. Do you genuinely believe that Sakura is younger than Sasuke and Naruto or are you just saying that it's a 50 50 chance that she is older or younger then them.

 

You are right there is no way of proving either version, because there isn't anywhere in black and white that it is. All we know is that Sasuke was born before Naruto.

[redragon88]

 

so what stance do you have on all this affair. Do you genuinely believe that Sakura is younger than Sasuke and Naruto or are you just saying that it's a 50 50 chance that she is older or younger then them.

 

You are right there is no way of proving either version, because there isn't anywhere in black and white that it is. All we know is that Sasuke was born before Naruto.

 

A 50/50 chance is the logical answer. Nothing can be completely proven.

 

If I was forced to choose I would say Sakura's younger based on the rules of the japanese school system, but that's just my personal opinion. For me it makes sense to apply the japanese norms until it can be proven otherwise within the story, and those norms would make Sakura the youngest of her class.

[StriderC]

Lmao this again?? There's really not enough evidence to peg who's older. All one can do is really speculate. It'd be nice if Kishi clearly this up even though it really is a minor thinv. Younger, older. Doesn't really matter in the end. They're I'm the same age group. :-)

[redragon88]

Lmao this again?? There's really not enough evidence to peg who's older. All one can do is really speculate. It'd be nice if Kishi clearly this up even though it really is a minor thinv. Younger, older. Doesn't really matter in the end. They're I'm the same age group. :-)

 

Remember how we spend many pages discussing it all those months ago? Good times.

 

What you say is the point I'm trying to make. There's no evidence to claim either as fact, absolutely none. So I don't want people drawing to conclusions based on just their personal believes instead of proper evidence.