Bail o' Lies

Boy you covered so much I'm wondering I even continue my post

Give it a go. My posts isn't infallible and their are gaps. You may find other views or points I didn't address.

Saw Therece lurking here for an hour or so. So, guess they are getting their friends to come up with a rebuttal.

This second video is for my first scenario.

Honestly, forgot today was the 20th...lets see something in the news. Oh apparently the Assassin Creed game's Japanese expert is a Fujoshi that is a yaoi-shota fan. That has actually written books on Monk on Shota action. Not an expert on the Sengoku Jidia the setting is based on but how to make the idealize hot Japanese fantasy boy...What a world.

Summary Time: Chapter 90/(10). Kernel. Right. Lets see the BS they make up to justify Kurama's return.

Cover page is tiny Kurama and the daughter. Ikemoto inability to convey expression makes it look like they are antagonistic towards each other. 

Neo-Ino-Shika-Cho are fleeing on an art bird. Tree-Jenga question why they are even bothering to run. Oh Finally! Some adult are coming to join the fight...oh its Konohamaru with a few mooks. Also Ikemoto has changed his design of Konohamaru. So, he isn't completely unrecognizable like he was at the start of the manga. Shikamaru informs both Bolt and Nail that they are after the daughter. He then ask Nail to make a temporary truce. Nail having some standards seem to feel he is required to protect the daughter...despite ignoring the fact he was told she was in danger last chapter. Character Consistency, what is that? Tree- Jenga goes off to chase the daughter. Leaving Tree-Sasuke to deal with Konohamaru. Konohamaru is shocked that Sasuke is one of the intruders, because it has taken forever for someone to tell Shikamaru the info hasn't been passed down through the Ranks yet. Oh and Salad appears Tree-Sasuke's target. They attack each other with Chidori. Salad question who this person is...it can't be her father because he has a left arm. Oh the tree people have these weird hand feet instead of the Freeza style the nudist had before.

Now the conversation with Kurama...why does it feel like Ikemoto can't even draw him properly. Yep, I thought so. So, Kurama 'died' within Naruto but a kernel remains and was able to restore itself within the daughter. What did I say last month. "If it doesn't kill the Biju and allows them to escape their host without killing them either, why didn't the tailed beast use their suicide nuke modes in the century they were used as weapons by the villages? Just tell/trick their host about this super mode. Then go into hiding while they assume the tailed beast is dead." The funny thing is they know this is all BS. So they give multiple reasons, all but saying 'it could be anything,' but end on the fact that she is a Hyuuga and Uzumaki. You know a thing that nH fans will love and stand by as it justifies their pairing happening. "Naruto and Hinata had to get together because their children would be so much more powerful than the children Naruto could have with Sakura. The only reason the daughter has Kurama without any seal is because she is Hinata's daughter." Kurama also says to not give it too much thought. Again. BULL. BULL. This whole thing is BULL.

So the answer to, was this planned from that start? No. They did not plan this. Kurama's death was so they wouldn't have to kill off Naruto, remember it was hinted that he is suppose to be dead at this point, they couldn't go through with that because his death might destroy the viewership they had left, and his revival is to give the daughter power to fight in the manga because they were told to add more characters into the cast that would fight beyond just Bolt & Nail. None of this was planned.

While they were having this conversation. Tree-Jenga caught up to them and shoots them down. What is up with Kurama's face. Kurama informs the daughter to use his power and that she has a higher affinity with him than anyone else including her father. So they fight, but it takes the likely death of Blond Sai, he was spiked through the chest, for the daughter to awaken Kurama's power. Oh her hair also looks like the nine tails like her grandmother.

There is no seal. Kurama has nothing stopping him from giving her his chakra. Which she supposedly has the highest affinity for. Why does she need to awaken it like a super mode? Naruto needed to get emotional to weaken the seal to let Kurama's Chakra pour out. Once they become friends that was no longer needed. Naruto just needed to ask.

Where going back into something does happen (The daughter's powers awaken, Tree-Sasuke is revealed to the village, and the likely death of a characters) but most of the pages are filler again with Ikemoto. Soon it will be one thing happens again, then 5 chapters for something to happen, and then fifteen, and so on.

Right now the scenarios I'll do three but I'll do them in general sense.

1) What if Naruto's and Sasuke's parents lived.

A lot of people seems to be obsessed over the concept that the overall theme of Naruto was, "Naruto was just suppose to be a nobody, he isn't suppose to be a child of destiny, he is just suppose to be a nobody." Not realizing the real point is, "Naruto was stripped of everything when he became the container for Kurama. He just became a weapon for the village, not really a person any more just a dangerous thing, the ultimate embodiment of the 'a ninja is not a person they are just a tool' philosophy that many ninja are taught from birth, and he had to struggle to get everything he should of had at birth." One of those being Sakura's affection. 

Naruto would likely be told the story of how his parents got together when he was young. Which would give him the courage to compliment Sakura's forehead even when they were like 5 or 6. Sakura develops a crush on the Son of the Fourth Hokage that complimented her forehead, praises her, encourages her, and protects her from bullies. Kushina, if she learns of this, see Sakura as a little her. Then, makes it her mission to get those two together and get her some grandchildren. If you don't believe that would happen, you haven't been around any mothers with young kids. If a boy and girl are friendly at a park, if they are watching those two mothers will gush about how cute they look together, and dream about grandchildren they would give them. So, she takes Sakura under her wing. Sakura's parents support them getting the two together, as it gives Sakura the best possible future as Naruto will grow up to be the most eligible and desirable bachelor in the village.

Sasuke would be Naruto's best friend since birth. He would know that Naruto pretty much laid claim to Sakura very early on, and the Sacred Rules inscribe upon every man's heart call The Guy Code would prevent him from really going after Sakura. And again, he would probably prefer to marry another Uchiha clan member like his father and brother did. 

2) What if Sasuke didn't leave the village. What if Sasuke was informed of Orochimaru's intentions for his body and someone pointed out that without the plot and the world bending over backwards for him. He would have likely trick him. If not just out right imprison him and steal his body when he has the chance.

Well, Sasuke would remain in the village, since there is less of a reason to leave, but the 'what if' is always there in the back of his mind. That thought would come out whenever he hits a plateau or a roadblock in his training. Sakura might be glad that Sasuke hasn't left the village but the doubt, the fear, and what she saw in the Forest of Death will always stay with her. Naruto is told about the curse seal while his faith in Sasuke has never been shaken. He does nag Sasuke about the seal. Sakura becomes grateful to Naruto for helping return the team to some level of normalcy. 

The problem is that Jiraiya still wants to train Naruto to get him ready for the Akatsuki return that may require Naruto to leave the village with him; to be on the road for a few years. This will make Sasuke jealous that he isn't being given this special training for his revenge. So, the adults Kakashi, Tsunade, and Jiraiya talk about what they should do. At first, they leave the team together to see how that works and if they don't. They eventually decided to do the individual focus training. Jiraiya for Naruto and Kakashi for Sasuke. The problem is Sakura, they note she would be a great if not perfect medical ninja. She however lacks the drive to endure the training Tsunade would give her. She got her drive originally from seeing how hurt Naruto gotten from trying to keep his promise to her and her swearing not to be a burden to him anymore. So, she either finds that drive or languish in mediocrity. Story-wise she has to get that drive and it preferably has to come from one of her two teammates. Now be honest everyone, do you think Naruto is going to give her that drive/encouragement or Sasuke?

Then comes Karin who joins the village to be with Sasuke. If she is allowed and they discover she is an Uzumaki, Naruto gets a cousin. Naruto would probably want to get to know and bond with his only family. He also may be willing to help his only family member get with the boy she is in love with, who is also his best friend. So, with Naruto help and being Sasuke's type, she makes both incredibly and relatively quick gains to becoming the one in the lead to being with Sasuke. Sakura with start to doubt herself and Sasuke's feelings for her when another girl just appeared and was able to surpass her that fast.

Naruto is not bound by the Promise of a Lifetime, so he is free to pursue Sakura. Karin would probably help him in return for helping with Sasuke. Sasuke might just make it clear to Sakura he isn't interested in her and tell where what really happened.

So Part 2 would be NS and SK already set, if not together, as the final pairing just them developing further into that.

3) What if Sasuke returned before Kishimoto had a mandate to put nH/SS together. That is everything between what if he was dragged back at the end of part one, to he comes back willing during some part in the middle of part two, and even what if Kishi had continued the story past the war arc so didn't get the mandate to set up the sequel.

Naruto uses every last ounce of influence he has in the village to get Sasuke a pardon for his crimes. Afterwards for a few weeks he decides to give Sasuke and Sakura some distance before trying to win Sakura again; a reset of the relationships. Everyone, well mostly everyone, knows what he is doing. Sasuke isn't into Sakura and doesn't want to be with her unless he feels the need to atone for how he treated her. While Sakura is upset at Naruto keeping his distance from her.

Sai eventually has enough and confronts Sasuke to help out his friends. The two of them have a spat about how they are his friends not his. Then Sasuke goes to Sakura and ends any possibility of them getting together and pushes her towards Naruto.

Sakura confronts Naruto asks him why he did it. He confesses his feelings. They end up together.

Well got the other posts to how I want them to be...may have bolded a bit too much to highlight points but oh well.

Anyways, after looking at Therece's posts and thinking it over. I will now answer the two questions to the best of my ability. One, the development of NS and SS, and two how they would develop in various scenarios. 

So, for the first, lets first look at what we can identify as Sasuke's and Sakura's type.

Let's start with the harder one that doesn't get much focus on this topic. Sasuke, when he talked to Sakura chastised her for not training, and when he talked to Kakashi in 693 one of the things that seem to really put him off liking Sakura is her assumption that, he already loves her. Now, lets compared that to Karin, who seemed to be the intended love interest of Sasuke before the ending changes. She was chosen by Sasuke to be on his team because of her tracking and healing abilities, her knew her personality yet still chose her, and he didn't shut down her attempts at flirting, like he did with Sakura. My guess is because she was trying to win his love instead of just waiting for it. So, going off that, Sasuke's type seems to be  'useful girls that tries to win his love.' While he dislikes, 'useless lazy girls that just wait for him to fall in love with them.' I'm guessing, this comes from him disliking his fangirls. That would fight each other for his attention while hoping, he would pick out one of them to be his girlfriend.

Sakura, I have already gone over in other topics and even without that, its not that hard to figure out is, 'strong confident and capable boys that compliment her.'

So, like I said before, SS and NS mirrored each other in part one, how Sakura treated Naruto was in turn how she was treated by Sasuke. They both got off on the wrong foot in chapter 3. For NS, the forehead compliment led to Sakura doubling down on her devotion towards Sasuke, if not turning her crush into love. The conversation she had with Sasuke afterwards put him off her by showing him her ugly side, That chapter helped set up their dynamics as a team when they trained and went on missions. Now they had moments and got closer, for the sake of not getting into pedantic semantics. I hope we will all just agree that, Naruto got as close to Sakura as she did to Sasuke during that time.

However, the relationships changed with the Chunin Exam. For SS the curse seal, for NS the pinky fingers and fighting Gaara.

The curse seal turned Sasuke's and Sakura's relationship into a negative abusive one from the second Sasuke got it. Sasuke when he awaken his use of the curse seal, he went on a power-high trip. Where he tried to rip Zaku's arms from his sockets and was going to commit similar acts of cruelty to anyone else he could get his hands on. Sakura terrified and concern at what Sasuke doing begged him to stop. Seeing the utter terror in Sakura's eyes shamed and calmed Sasuke. But, he had gotten a taste of that power. So, he ordered/pressured Sakura not to tell Naruto, as he would not allow Sasuke to use a power that dangerous. The story makes it very clear that not telling Naruto was a major factor in Sasuke leaving the village. As he would have likely talk/pester him to not use it and he would have complied. Sasuke also shot down any attempt of Sakura telling others. Afterwards, Sakura's feelings went from fondness, constant praise if not worship, and wanting to get a date with him; to constantly worried, fretting over him, fearing he will seek out Orochimaru for power, leaving her, abandoning her, and doubting him in general. Till eventually, Sakura had lost so much faith in Sasuke, she finally told Naruto about the curse seal. Though too late to stop him from leaving.

At the start of the chunin exam arc, Konohamaru when he saw Naruto and Sakura together alone. He thought Sakura was Naruto's girlfriend and asked if that was the case. The way to signal that in Japan, is holding up a pinky finger as the red string of fate is said to be tied to ones pinky. Naruto agreed boastfully and got hit by Sakura for the lie. When Naruto was fighting Gaara to rescue Sakura. When he summoned Boss Gamabunta, he asked him not to fight in a certain area so to not hit Sakura in any crossfire. Gamabunta asked, "who is Sakura," and his son Gamakichi held up his pinky to say "Sakura was Naruto's girlfriend." This being a simple storyline even Kishimoto is capable of but went over the heads' of some westerners. The correct way to earn the right to call someone your girlfriend isn't to boast your claim to your friends but to protect her. Afterwards, Sakura went to thank Sasuke for rescuing her. Sasuke immediately shot down the praise and clarified to Sakura. That Naruto had saved her on his own and went above and beyond to do it. Sakura, then looked at Naruto at an amazed then slowly fond look. In order to show, that her opinion of Naruto had changed. From just a teammate and friend that she cared about to possibly something more.

So, by the end of part one. Sasuke was willing to completely abandoned any bond he had formed with Sakura for power and did so. Sakura was losing faith in Sasuke and had to seek faith and comfort in Naruto. So, by the end of part one SS is at least on the decline if not ended while NS is on the rise.

Sorry, something came up I'll try to do the scenarios tomorrow.