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[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

 
Sorry that scene from the movie naruto find out he's son was cheat, naruto's design still looks awful. I was hoping Thanos would have shown up during that scene in the movie be better than we got with no one kaguya spawn. I love these comparison with spiderman and naruto showing spiderman can bounch back from a bad story where as naruto get worse.
  I wonder what naruto would have been like had iruka not been there for him in the 1st chapter.

https://media.giphy....ZMPqo/giphy.gif sorry first of all I can't post a gif on my phone. Second of all, the animation is terrible that it makes modern Family Guy animation look like Disney. 

[VanitasDS76491]

Bold Hinata would have still been there for him. After all she's the first person to acknowledged Naruto even when the manga says otherwise.

I was thinking he'd go more toward how Garra was in part 1 when we meet him, and hinata would be even more spinless.

[Gravenimage]

I was thinking he'd go more toward how Garra was in part 1 when we meet him, and hinata would be even more spinless.

 

He would have killed Hinata that would be great er-I mean that would be so tragic.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

I was thinking he'd go more toward how Garra was in part 1 when we meet him, and hinata would be even more spinless.

 

We also coulda seen Naruto become like Killer Bee, where he enjoys being a Jinchuriki, but also masks the fact he hates how it dehumanizes him more than he lets on, which is why I wish Bee was handled better as a Jinchuriki, since he really just comes off like he has no problems at all, which is bull since he was basically treated as a weapon by Ay, and when he had the chance, when he was thought to be kidnapped, he bailed, but that wasn't explored on.

 

So I think Naruto would have DEFINITELY been more like Gaara if not for Iruka. We even see when Mizuki reveals to him he's Kurama's Jinchuriki that he's ready to explode out with all his chakra in rage, and then being bothered because he thinks all Iruka did was out of hating him before Iruka said his famous words to Mizuki.

[tricksie]

 

We also coulda seen Naruto become like Killer Bee, where he enjoys being a Jinchuriki, but also masks the fact he hates how it dehumanizes him more than he lets on, which is why I wish Bee was handled better as a Jinchuriki, since he really just comes off like he has no problems at all, which is bull since he was basically treated as a weapon by Ay, and when he had the chance, when he was thought to be kidnapped, he bailed, but that wasn't explored on.

 

So I think Naruto would have DEFINITELY been more like Gaara if not for Iruka. We even see when Mizuki reveals to him he's Kurama's Jinchuriki that he's ready to explode out with all his chakra in rage, and then being bothered because he thinks all Iruka did was out of hating him before Iruka said his famous words to Mizuki.

I wish there was more focus put on the other jinchurikis. The whole manga could have gone a completely different way if the story revolved around Naruto and his hero's journey meeting the other jinchurikis. Their struggles, their backgrounds, etc. Instead of so much Uchiha story in the manga and Hinata's story in the anime.

 

Because your point is so true — Killer Bee's story isn't a super happy one. He's a weapon. Just like Gaara's tragic story - with the 'Love' tattoo even though he was unloved. It would have been nice to see Naruto mature into a jinchuriki having to understand and/or overcome these obstacles that others had faced. 

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

I wish there was more focus put on the other jinchurikis. The whole manga could have gone a completely different way if the story revolved around Naruto and his hero's journey meeting the other jinchurikis. Their struggles, their backgrounds, etc. Instead of so much Uchiha story in the manga and Hinata's story in the anime.

 

Yeah, I agree. Especially since we could see how all the Jinchuriki differed in terms of handling their being bonded to a Biju, and what Naruto might learn from them, like how it was when Naruto learned a good bit from Gaara, and Gaara from him. Especially since it basically renders Naruto pointless as the protagonist of the series if stuff about him and things related to him like his family, his past, his being a Jinchuriki, etc. aren't even covered anywhere.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

I wish there was more focus put on the other jinchurikis. The whole manga could have gone a completely different way if the story revolved around Naruto and his hero's journey meeting the other jinchurikis. Their struggles, their backgrounds, etc. Instead of so much Uchiha story in the manga and Hinata's story in the anime.

 

Because your point is so true — Killer Bee's story isn't a super happy one. He's a weapon. Just like Gaara's tragic story - with the 'Love' tattoo even though he was unloved. It would have been nice to see Naruto mature into a jinchuriki having to understand and/or overcome these obstacles that others had faced. 

And I've read fanfics that constantly speculated that the reason why ones like Han, Roshi, and Utakata were "traveling" rather than in their home villages is because of how ostracized they were as Jinchuriki.

[jak123]

There were alot of plot points that Kishimoto started that never went anywhere.

 

The other Jinchuriki

 

The Seven Swordsman of the Mist

 

Sasuke's team

 

So many unused things.

Edited by jak123, 01 February 2018 - 07:10 PM.

[Yyubie]

I wish there was more focus put on the other jinchurikis. The whole manga could have gone a completely different way if the story revolved around Naruto and his hero's journey meeting the other jinchurikis. Their struggles, their backgrounds, etc. Instead of so much Uchiha story in the manga and Hinata's story in the anime.

 

Because your point is so true — Killer Bee's story isn't a super happy one. He's a weapon. Just like Gaara's tragic story - with the 'Love' tattoo even though he was unloved. It would have been nice to see Naruto mature into a jinchuriki having to understand and/or overcome these obstacles that others had faced. 

 

This is the way of Kishimoto saying : "Hey no matter how s**t and evil they are they just an angel without wings , so accept them and love them like i do. And whatever s**t sasuke gonna do in the past and future hes my golden boy and i love him more than anything and you reader should do the same , because after all cool and handsome guy can't never do wrong , can't never have sin , and immune to punishment!"

[Derock]

 

This is the way of Kishimoto saying : "Hey no matter how s**t and evil they are they just an angel without wings , so accept them and love them like i do. And whatever s**t sasuke gonna do in the past and future hes my golden boy and i love him more than anything and you reader should do the same , because after all cool and handsome guy can't never do wrong , can't never have sin , and immune to punishment!"

 

Oh God... that chapter.... I was fuming when I read it.

[Gravenimage]

 

Oh God... that chapter.... I was fuming when I read it.

 

I know what you mean. Kishimoto showing to the readers" the Uchiha clan is not really evil, they're just misunderstood" they're love is so strong it will drive them wild. So in truth they love so much they become evil and end up causing a lot of crazy kitten. This is just...Dear God is freaking retarded. It's the worse justification ever to see all members of the Uchiha clan as good people. This only shows how much of a whore is Kishimoto when it comes to the Uchiha. He should have named his manga" Sasuke" instead of Naruto. The more I think about it, the angrier I get. 

 

So no matter how many bad things Sasuke did. In the end he gets forgiven because he truly loves everyone it doesn't matter how psychotic he became he's truly a saint. 

 

-Gets the power ups

-Gets Naruto's girl

-Gets a pad on the back instead of execution (but then again Orochimaru also got a pad on the back and he has done way WORSE than Sasuke).

-Works for Konoha even when he knew the truth of the Uchiha massacre. 

 

God this manga is so bad. I still can't believe I spent 15 years of my life reading it. 

Edited by Gravenimage, 01 February 2018 - 10:23 PM.

[jak123]

 

 

God this manga is so bad. I still can't believe I spent 15 years of my life reading it. 

Same. Seeing it picked apart, I honestly don't know how I ever liked it. The action was cool, but that's it.

[Phantom_999]

True that, I'm of the same opinion

[RulesofNature]

Same. Seeing it picked apart, I honestly don't know how I ever liked it. The action was cool, but that's it.

 

The worst part for me was I didn't exactly have high expectations for the manga. Like, there were a bunch of issues that I kept noticing but I just wrote it off. "Naruto wasn't a story I read because of it's meaning, it's because it's been a part of my life since I became a teenager and it's presence is comforting," I told myself. Post timeskip things just kept getting weaker, but there were still highs like Pein or Sasuke's final bout with Itachi to keep me interested. Then when the war arc started it was because I could see the light at the end of the tunnel.

 

I make no secret that I was accepting of the ending when it first came out. It was later incidents that made me go back and fully realize what went wrong, what the series had actually become, and what it really did mean to me deep down.

[jak123]

 

The worst part for me was I didn't exactly have high expectations for the manga. Like, there were a bunch of issues that I kept noticing but I just wrote it off. "Naruto wasn't a story I read because of it's meaning, it's because it's been a part of my life since I became a teenager and it's presence is comforting," I told myself. Post timeskip things just kept getting weaker, but there were still highs like Pein or Sasuke's final bout with Itachi to keep me interested. Then when the war arc started it was because I could see the light at the end of the tunnel.

 

I make no secret that I was accepting of the ending when it first came out. It was later incidents that made me go back and fully realize what went wrong, what the series had actually become, and what it really did mean to me deep down.

I yelled at my screen at the end. After seeing Sasuke genjutsu stab Sakura in the heart, I sat there wondering how she could be married to him.

[VanitasDS76491]

He would have killed Hinata that would be great er-I mean that would be so tragic.

I'd welcome that. He'd probably have a better relationship with kurama if he was like Garra. And he'd out do sasuke at ever point.

[Illnevergiveup3]

sad thing is that Naruto calls this guy a "brother," and I know that his "brother" knows how much Naruto loves Sakura-Chan and he STILL ended up marrying her. If anything. The rivalry kitten applies more to Sasuke and to me, he did it to one up Naruto. If I was Naruto I would hit Sasuke with a Ultra Rasengan and swirl his stomach into a whirlpool. #kittenSasuke

[jak123]

sad thing is that Naruto calls this guy a "brother," and I know that his "brother" knows how much Naruto loves Sakura-Chan and he STILL ended up marrying her. If anything. The rivalry kitten applies more to Sasuke and to me, he did it to one up Naruto. If I was Naruto I would hit Sasuke with a Ultra Rasengan and swirl his stomach into a whirlpool. #kittenSasuke

Especially considering he did the forehead poke like Naruto. In the end though, it boils down to Kishimoto's crappy writing.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Especially considering he did the forehead poke like Naruto. In the end though, it boils down to Kishimoto's crappy writing.

 

...And the fact he caved into money, editorial pressure, and a toxic minority of the mass majority of the fandom...

[DrK]

sad thing is that Naruto calls this guy a "brother," and I know that his "brother" knows how much Naruto loves Sakura-Chan and he STILL ended up marrying her. If anything. The rivalry kitten applies more to Sasuke and to me, he did it to one up Naruto. If I was Naruto I would hit Sasuke with a Ultra Rasengan and swirl his stomach into a whirlpool. #kittenSasuke

I think it's more likely that Naruto would tell Sasuke that he doesn't love her, so that he could feel better about being with Sakura, since Naruto "wants Sakura to be happy", even though being with Sasuke would make anyone but Karin miserable.

You can keep trashing Sasuke all you want, but the fault is really on Sakura the way Kishimoto wrote it. The way Kishimoto wrote her at the end makes Naruto look bad even if he doesn't, and never loved her. Because he had such a great respect for this girl, compared to someone like Ino, and as it turns out, she's rather pathetic. (Compared to someone like Ino.)

Edited by DrK, 02 February 2018 - 06:52 AM.