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#12601 Kikuyu

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 02:44 PM

Kishimoto.. 

 

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 02:45 PM

The key is "WE"
He didn't decided on the pairings alone

Take your own conclusions *cough*sp*cough*sj

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 02:45 PM

No, they have moments in the hidan/kakuzu arc, and the hug in the Pein one

My guess is that all went to kitten with Sakura's confession.
It was received very poorly despiste kishi saying he was showing a honest girl.

But they had Moments AFTER her confession, which means he must have decided even later than 615.


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 02:50 PM

 

The interviewer : ” In the prologue, we can see that Hinata & Naruto have two kids. But when did you decide that Naruto & Hinata would be together ?”

Kishimoto : “Quite a long time ago, in fact. But I have to admit there was a time when we did thought about Sakura, you know. But if after all this time, she would just all of a sudden changed her heart for Naruto, this would make her kind of a terrible woman, right ?. And I think she’s wholeheartly devoted to Sasuke anyway. I’ll continue writing Naruto until this summer”

Making Sakura move on from a abusive relationship would make her a terrible person hahaha Pathetic
Do you know what would make Sakura a terrible person, Kishi? Her willing to abandon her family, friends and career to travel around the world with a guy that abuses her.

 

It is official this is more hurtful than School Rumble, I didn't think  that read a story would be ugly like that, here I am like  a fool looking forward that the Idiot could have win the heart of the tsuderen, but not.


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 02:50 PM

This is the actual translation..? What the hell.

 

But if after all this time, she would just all of a sudden changed her heart for Naruto, this would make her kind of a terrible woman, right ? "

 

So the same logic cannot apply to Naruto's feelings ?!!   :twitch:

 

that's what i first thought too after reading that.

 

Sakura will look like a terrible woman if she moves on from Sasuke to Naruto (which makes perfect sense, something that i thought was intended to happen because hello? development? Naruto is suppose to CHANGE people right???)

 

 

But Naruto changing his feelings? naaaah that won't make him a bad man

 

Afterall his feelings for Sakura is weak.

 

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Oh sorry.. what are we talking about again?

 

yeah,.. Naruto's weak feelings for Sakura!

 

It is too insignificant that Naruto won't appear as a terrible man if he moves on from loving Sakura.

 

I'm sorry but I think i reached my limit.

 

I was taught to respect people especially those who made you passionate about something.. and to think Kishi inspired me at some point.

 

so i'll just let this off as a bad dream.. or maybe cultural difference? or difference in beliefs? idk anymore.

 

Naruto manga never existed. Those 15 years of my life is just an illusion. There was no Naruto manga who stole my youth.

 

Afterall.. what happened in the end? what did we gain after all this?

 

They all revert to what they were from the start. except Naruto did a 360 and was almost unrecognizable.

 

I feel so sorry for Naruto's character. I would not hate him even after this. he was only a victim here.

 

 

NaruSaku is treated like kitten now. i still love this ship but i'll bury it some place where my mind could not reach to remember it.

 

Kishi suddenly had this bad diarrhea, ran out of water and toilet paper

 

and without any choice left, used NaruSaku to wipe off his kitten stricken ass.

 

 

 

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Oh Kishi....Even your own characters know better

 

 

 

kittenIN' REVOLUTION!!!!


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 02:57 PM

Now I know why they are coming out with bs like 'Naruto only had weak feelings for Sakura'. Cause otherwise Kishimoto's words would be contradicting and make no sense.

 

Sakura changing feelings at the end would be bad but Naruto changing his feelings is okay because his feelings were not 'true love' like Sakura's or Hinata's. This man really has a scarily twisted view on love and romance. 

 

 

And the constant reminder that - '' I am not good at writing romance'' 

 

No kitten Sherlock. Its like he's openly admitting- " I know just how bad of an ending I have given. But please, understand that I don't know how to write about love, Really ! I know everyone is disappointed and feel let down but please show me sympathy because I feel embarrassed when drawing romance" .

 

Please spare us the bs Masashi Kishimoto, we know how capable you are! You are the same guy who developed the NaruSaku bond so beautifully throughout the manga. You are the same guy who wrote RtN. Just admit you screwed up. Just admit that, for whatever reason it is, you decided to abandon all the development of the story and the characters, all the values and morals, every good thing that the manga represented. With that ending, you pushed the self-destruct button and wrecked 15 years of hard work.


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 03:01 PM

 

The interviewer : ” In the prologue, we can see that Hinata & Naruto have two kids. But when did you decide that Naruto & Hinata would be together ?”

Kishimoto : “Quite a long time ago, in fact. But I have to admit there was a time when we did thought about Sakura, you know. But if after all this time, she would just all of a sudden changed her heart for Naruto, this would make her kind of a terrible woman, right ?. And I think she’s wholeheartly devoted to Sasuke anyway. I’ll continue writing Naruto until this summer”

Making Sakura move on from a abusive relationship would make her a terrible person hahaha Pathetic
Do you know what would make Sakura a terrible person, Kishi? Her willing to abandon her family, friends and career to travel around the world with a guy that abuses her.

 

Naruto is a terrible man...confirmed.


Edited by Raiton, 20 November 2014 - 03:02 PM.

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 03:05 PM

Now I know why they are coming out with bs like 'Naruto only had weak feelings for Sakura'. Cause otherwise Kishimoto's words would be contradicting and make no sense.

 

Sakura changing feelings at the end would be bad but Naruto changing his feelings is okay because his feelings were not 'true love' like Sakura's or Hinata's. This man really has a scarily twisted view on love and romance. 

 

 

And the constant reminder that - '' I am not good at writing romance'' 

 

No kitten Sherlock. Its like he's openly admitting- " I know just how bad of an ending I have given. But please, understand that I don't know how to write about love, Really ! I know everyone is disappointed and feel let down but please show me sympathy because I feel embarrassed when drawing romance" .

 

Please spare us the bs Masashi Kishimoto, we know how capable you are! You are the same guy who developed the NaruSaku bond so beautifully throughout the manga. You are the same guy who wrote RtN. Just admit you screwed up. Just admit that, for whatever reason it is, you decided to abandon all the development of the story and the characters, all the values and morals, every good thing that the manga represented. With that ending, you pushed the self-destruct button and wrecked 15 years of hard work.

 

Exactly. If he truly wanted NH and SS from the start, then those relationships should have been developed. But he built a beautiful relationship between Naruto and Sakura with parallels and comparisons up until the very end. I don't understand how that can be swept away in two chapters. And his ability to convey a relationship between Sasuke and Sakura is perhaps MORE egregious than anything else.



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Posted 20 November 2014 - 03:06 PM

Naruto is a terrible man...confirmed.

 

That's ok; this is just a precursor to him committing tons of atrocities and killing hundreds. Then he can be redeemed and be a cool guy like Obito.



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Posted 20 November 2014 - 03:06 PM

Naruto is a terrible man...confirmed.

 

I just died at your comment.

 

well he is the one who had that terrible person who had a change of heart Kishi is saying but then he gets spared for it because he's the main guy anway  :zaru:


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 03:06 PM

Naruto is a terrible man...confirmed.

The fact that his feeling for Sakura "ended" at 615, but he's shown flirting with Sakura later on only makes this more so :zaru: 


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 03:07 PM

Now I know why they are coming out with bs like 'Naruto only had weak feelings for Sakura'. Cause otherwise Kishimoto's words would be contradicting and make no sense.

 

Sakura changing feelings at the end would be bad but Naruto changing his feelings is okay because his feelings were not 'true love' like Sakura's or Hinata's. This man really has a scarily twisted view on love and romance. 

 

 

And the constant reminder that - '' I am not good at writing romance'' 

 

No kitten Sherlock. Its like he's openly admitting- " I know just how bad of an ending I have given. But please, understand that I don't know how to write about love, Really ! I know everyone is disappointed and feel let down but please show me sympathy because I feel embarrassed when drawing romance" .

 

Please spare us the bs Masashi Kishimoto, we know how capable you are! You are the same guy who developed the NaruSaku bond so beautifully throughout the manga. You are the same guy who wrote RtN. Just admit you screwed up. Just admit that, for whatever reason it is, you decided to abandon all the development of the story and the characters, all the values and morals, every good thing that the manga represented. With that ending, you pushed the self-destruct button and wrecked 15 years of hard work.

dud is a simple explanation ....... money :twitch:



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Posted 20 November 2014 - 03:07 PM

Naruto is a terrible man...confirmed.

Nope, naruto is a smart man because he left a kitten :zaru:

Character assassination at the best.
Showing gay love to sasuke but give up on sakura? Lol.

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 03:23 PM

Lmao! I could have sworn Naruto was the one with the nindo. Seems like he's just trying gogo save face but I'm shocked no one has called him out on his OBVIOUS kitten answer.

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 03:56 PM

 

And so what ? We have the right to talk if we want to talk. If you're not interested then just leave.

Who said im here?..I left! :)


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 04:08 PM

This is it. I'm selling my kittenrutos. Not sure if 40 volumes worth 5 euros though?

 

I am pissed. REALLY pissed. My hands are shaking and I shrieked at this kitten. I lost the last tiny remaining ounce of respect I had for him. Whenever I'll see Naruto somewhere and read this mad man's name I might puke. I followed this kitten 10 years for that, great.

 

I swear to God if he happens to go to a convention in France, I'll take the mic and shame him.

 

He just said that killing attempts and verbal abuses are not good enough reasons to move on of a relationship. In a shonen destined to children. What The Actual kitten.

 

This man is seriously psycho. NS won at everything though, this is official. In a literacy and moral POV NS rules.

 

Idc about the manga now, if he's sincere -not trying to find reasons to justify this BS ending- than he's kittened up and needs a therapy.

I can't now. I just can't.


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 04:21 PM

This is it. I'm selling my kittenrutos. Not sure if 40 volumes worth 5 euros though?

 

I am pissed. REALLY pissed. My hands are shaking and I shrieked at this kitten. I lost the last tiny remaining ounce of respect I had for him. Whenever I'll see Naruto somewhere and read this mad man's name I might puke. I followed this kitten 10 years for that, great.

 

I swear to God if he happens to go to a convention in France, I'll take the mic and shame him.

 

He just said that killing attempts and verbal abuses are not good enough reasons to move on of a relationship. In a shonen destined to children. What The Actual kitten.

 

This man is seriously psycho. NS won at everything though, this is official. In a literacy and moral POV NS rules.

 

Idc about the manga now, if he's sincere -not trying to find reasons to justify this BS ending- than he's f**cked up and needs a therapy.

I can't now. I just can't.

Yeah l don't care about this "respect the author" nonsense anymore. The man is a piece of kitten. He's selling toxic "ideals" to his gullible fanbase and has an incredibly messed up views on human relationships. l'm never reading anything by him again and l'll try to forget l ever read that awful garbage story called Naruto.


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 04:22 PM

This is it. I'm selling my kittenrutos. Not sure if 40 volumes worth 5 euros though?
 
I am pissed. REALLY pissed. My hands are shaking and I shrieked at this kitten. I lost the last tiny remaining ounce of respect I had for him. Whenever I'll see Naruto somewhere and read this mad man's name I might puke. I followed this kitten 10 years for that, great.
 
I swear to God if he happens to go to a convention in France, I'll take the mic and shame him.
 
He just said that killing attempts and verbal abuses are not good enough reasons to move on of a relationship. In a shonen destined to children. What The Actual kitten.
 
This man is seriously psycho. NS won at everything though, this is official. In a literacy and moral POV NS rules.
 
Idc about the manga now, if he's sincere -not trying to find reasons to justify this BS ending- than he's f**cked up and needs a therapy.
I can't now. I just can't.


You'll never know.

Personally, the interview makes me smile. He's even worse than I, one of the loudest detractors, even thought possible.

If this is spin, they're dishonest. If not, then he never really knew what he was doing. It's getting so bad that I even wonder if head read what he wrote. It's hard to argue that he did.

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 04:35 PM

This is it. I'm selling my kittenrutos. Not sure if 40 volumes worth 5 euros though?

 

I am pissed. REALLY pissed. My hands are shaking and I shrieked at this kitten. I lost the last tiny remaining ounce of respect I had for him. Whenever I'll see Naruto somewhere and read this mad man's name I might puke. I followed this kitten 10 years for that, great.

 

I swear to God if he happens to go to a convention in France, I'll take the mic and shame him.

 

He just said that killing attempts and verbal abuses are not good enough reasons to move on of a relationship. In a shonen destined to children. What The Actual kitten.

 

This man is seriously psycho. NS won at everything though, this is official. In a literacy and moral POV NS rules.

 

Idc about the manga now, if he's sincere -not trying to find reasons to justify this BS ending- than he's f**cked up and needs a therapy.

I can't now. I just can't.

Better to just burn them, save other poor souls from reading it and killing their soul :zaru: 


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 04:36 PM

If I hear any more of that "respect the author" bullcrap after this...






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