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[Phantom_999]

What was it that Kushina said before she said that part about finding a girl like her? "It was it is too early for you to be interested in girls." wasn't it?  
 
I REALLY MUST ASK THOUGH, WHY do they NEED to twist dialogue in the manga to or make stuff up to suit NH when they constantly spew out this gospel truth that Naruto is not a romance manga?

Edited by Phantom_999, 24 January 2021 - 02:27 AM.

[Bail o' Lies]

Yep, pure facts!

LMAO @them for even suggesting that Hinata was "the new heroine". That alone should tell you that they have absolutely no idea what that means, that they don't read the manga and that they can't tell the difference between 15 years of being a main character vs. minor secondary who is barely there. I hate these particular fans and wish they didn't ruin the fandom with their BS. 

They watched the anime liked her and wanted her to be important. Kishimoto didn't care about her. They built her up in their heads for years trying to justify she was super duper important. kishimoto didn't care about that but started using her more once his editors forced him to. Since, her feeling for Naruto are they only thing that is focused on after the chunin exam she must be the love interest, and in japan that also the heroine. It is important to always remember, while you might like certain aspect of a story, it doesn't mean the writer cares about those aspects.

 

 Even in TL, I know we say that Hinata became the main character, but of course it was only for that movie. Once it ended, she was regulated back to her conservative, minor secondary character self right after.

That's because she didn't bring in the sales the executives were promised.

 

I do also agree that Neji and Hinata were supposed to get together. I know a lot of Western fans were attacking that idea relentlessly due to it being a cousin marriage, but there are many cultures in which it is fine. Pretty sure Japan is included in that. But of course they fail to realize or even recognize that. Probably was one of the reasons he had to be axed and serve as cupid for NH (because how else would they have had any interaction? She wasn't in his immediate circle). Neji x Hinata would have lead to the end of the cruel treatment faced by the branch families (if I'm remembering correctly) as well as the joining of them. If that's not tying up their only plotline, I don't know what would have. Oh look, another loose plot line to add to the already huge pile.

Yep. In the West it seen as incest. Not help that some people think they are actually brother and sister. Also they never forgive his match against her. In Japan it was seen as the obvious choice that would solve the Hyuuga problem. Hinata and Hanabi were not given cage bird seals because they were female. So, they can be married off to the other main branch families to keep their lines going. To keep the bloodline pure and the power within the clan. Both Uchiha and Hyuuga seems to do this. In fact, the one thing that made Itachi's lover apparently stand out in the clan was one of her parents was not an Uchiha. Whoever Hinata married who would have been a Hyuuga -if her father didn't disinherit her and make Hanabi the heir- would have been adopted by him and main the head of the clan. If Neji married Hinata he would have become a member of the main branch and the next clan head. His cage bird seal would have to be removed, then once he is head with Hokage Naruto's backing he would remove all the seals on the branch family and heal the rift between the main and side branches of the clan.

 

Remember Lee gag manga. The pairing were LeeXTenten NarutoXSakura  ChoujiXIno and NejiXHinata because those were the intended pairing when the gag manga started. Hinata originally was suppose to be with Neji that was the plan from the start, but then what Derock said someone in SP wouldn't stop whining about Neji forcing Kishi to kill him to shut them up.

 

What the actual f***? Are people so desperate to defend their trash pairing that they have to go to the extent of purposely misinterpreting clear facts?

 

This alone should be an indicator that 1. they haven't read the manga 2. that they are so far up their own headcanons that they confuse it with reality or 3. a mixture of both. Kushina quite literally was giving him girl advice, you know, romantically (like you mentioned). I just don't understand how they can try to spin it. It's 1+1. Maybe they wanted to make themselves feel better because of NH's lack of manga presence? Maybe they actually did decide to read the manga and became uncomfortable with what was in it, so they tried to pull what TL did and recton basic facts.

This has got to be one of the most ridiculous things I've seen. I wish people seperated facts from headcanons because then we wouldn't be in this situation! It's fine to ship whatever you want but acknowledge the facts. Ugh!!

Yes, the manga ended nH so therefor to them what every they say must be correct and what ever we say must be wrong no matter how it looks.

 

1.nH fans draw their conclusion and force the manga to fit it.

 

2. Yes.

 

3. Yes.

 

Viz manga from what I recall changed the translation also...though that implies they bought the manga volumes.

 

All your question are answered with the answer to 1.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 17 January 2021 - 02:23 AM.

[catsi563]

theyre so desperate for the same reason. the pairing was forced has no development and thus no defense so they have to scramble for anything they can but invariably end up with well its canon so NYAA!

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 
Love without reason, Let's be honest is, your hormones and reproductive parts acting up. I've stated before love based only on love at first sight and physical attraction is shortsighted and a complete disaster in actual long term relationships. NH and SS COMPLETELY embody that.

I never bought that when Kakashi tried to force Sasuke to return Sakuras feelings when he himself was no better since he turned down Rin when he was going to abandon her just because he was screwed in the head and heart because of what happened to his dad only to be partially healed when Obito helped him and then supposedly died during the third Great Shinobi War.

It's also the height of hypocrisy but Kakashi can be quite the hypocrite nonetheless, like when he said he'd kill Sasuke, BUT all he did was hesitate and try to talk Sasuke down rather than do what he said he was gonna do and what he felt he needed it to do.

Edited by Bryon_Konoha_Ninja, 17 January 2021 - 01:58 AM.

[Bail o' Lies]

No one could kill Sasuke not until kishimoto did Valley of the end fight redux.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

I can't believe I'm about to ask this but how would you fix Hinata's character?

[Illnevergiveup3]

I can't believe I'm about to ask this but how would you fix Hinata's character?

She was shown capable of letting Naruto go in terms of knowing that he would be happy with Sakura-Chan. She turned extremely obsessive and bold in the War Arc. I would just get her away from Naruto, she has no business being there, and I would make her become great somewhere else, like she should be. She definitely deserves to be a good Kunoichi though. If anyone could fix the Hyuga problems, I imagine it would be Hinata. She also needs to learn to stay in a fodder characters place.

[Phantom_999]

I can't believe I'm about to ask this but how would you fix Hinata's character?

 

Re-bond with her family, fix the dogmatic system between the Hyuga's main clan and branch clan, become more independent as a kunoichi, be more than just, "N-Naruto-kun". (SHOW CONCERN OVER YOUR OWN TEAMMATES FOR ONCE WHY DON'T YOU?).

Edited by Phantom_999, 17 January 2021 - 03:15 PM.

[Nostradamus]

I can't believe I'm about to ask this but how would you fix Hinata's character?

Erase her from existence. Act like she never existed.

Toriyama did it. Worked well for him.

[Namaenash]

+1 with erasing her from existence. You can make a good side story with Neji after the war on how he'd struggle to fix Hyuuga family business, but you can't do such story with Hinata.

[catsi563]

I can't believe I'm about to ask this but how would you fix Hinata's character?

 

For me Hinatas character is a simple fix

 

1: give her motivations beyond Naruto and her love for him

 

2: Have her accomplish something beyond just being background or a plot device

 

3: at the end have her let go of naruto and move on from a childish love. have her ackowledge Narutos feelings for Sakura and in the context of her own feelings move forward

 

the first is the biggest as it stands now the character is utterly irrelevant to the story. there isnt a single moment you have her in that she couldnt be replaced by another character to the same or greater emotional effect.  

 

Give her plot points that represent who she is as a character beyond her crush and  that let her stand on her own mertis without naruto

*Lead her clan into the future

*surpass Hanabi as heir and in skill

*find her fathers approval

*Live up to nejis legacy and sacrafice if such occurred

 

these all give her motivation beyond Naruto and let her stand on her own as a character

 

the 2nd is in reference to her many moments basically accounting to nothing. Such as her moment in the Itachi hunt where she sees kabuto had orochimarus DNA in him, this couldve been a big sequence of events where she and naruto spoke to each other and she could confirm her feelins or let Naruto confirm feelings for her OR Sakura either way but instead shes there soley to confirm with her magic eyes that Kabuto is different something any generic Hyuga couldve done with the same ability

 

shes essentially useless in the moment

 

same with her confession or the proud lose speech both pivotal moments of growth for naruto but both inevitable ending in being nothing more then minor footnote moments for her as again she could be replaced with another character to the same or greater emotional effect

 

Lee or Iruka or Sakura couldve delivered the proud loser speech 

 

Sakura or Iruka couldve confessed feelings towards him as love or familial bonds before Pein harmed them to even greater emotional effect at the time

 

make hinatas moments meaningful make them moments of character growth or development by following them up with conversation or a brief moment of introspection'

 

3: As in my head Canon and the Canon of the In your storylines Hinata must let go and move on, theres a dojin of this very subject i cant remember its name though but in the end one panel stood out it was Hinata walking away from naruto and Sakura while her yoingerself runs towards them. this image always stuck with me and i adopted it as the image of my own story 

 

Hinata in the end confessing to naruto but admitting shes lost to Sakura before walking away from her crush on naruto is the pinnacle of growth for her letting go of the obsessive love and growing up. We dont always get our crush in the end we have to be adults and live our lives while hoping the one we love does well and is happy. She does this lets her younger self run off but she moves on

 

Let Hinata grow up let her become a young lady instead of a little girl hiding behing a telephone pole all the time. 

 

long story short theres multiple easy steps to fix Hinatas character that dont involve assassinating others in the process and leave her with viable plot elements and potential for future story elements all while wrapping her story up neatly

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 

For me Hinatas character is a simple fix

 

1: give her motivations beyond Naruto and her love for him

 

2: Have her accomplish something beyond just being background or a plot device

 

3: at the end have her let go of naruto and move on from a childish love. have her ackowledge Narutos feelings for Sakura and in the context of her own feelings move forward

 

the first is the biggest as it stands now the character is utterly irrelevant to the story. there isnt a single moment you have her in that she couldnt be replaced by another character to the same or greater emotional effect.  

 

Give her plot points that represent who she is as a character beyond her crush and  that let her stand on her own mertis without naruto

*Lead her clan into the future

*surpass Hanabi as heir and in skill

*find her fathers approval

*Live up to nejis legacy and sacrafice if such occurred

 

these all give her motivation beyond Naruto and let her stand on her own as a character

 

the 2nd is in reference to her many moments basically accounting to nothing. Such as her moment in the Itachi hunt where she sees kabuto had orochimarus DNA in him, this couldve been a big sequence of events where she and naruto spoke to each other and she could confirm her feelins or let Naruto confirm feelings for her OR Sakura either way but instead shes there soley to confirm with her magic eyes that Kabuto is different something any generic Hyuga couldve done with the same ability

 

shes essentially useless in the moment

 

same with her confession or the proud lose speech both pivotal moments of growth for naruto but both inevitable ending in being nothing more then minor footnote moments for her as again she could be replaced with another character to the same or greater emotional effect

 

Lee or Iruka or Sakura couldve delivered the proud loser speech 

 

Sakura or Iruka couldve confessed feelings towards him as love or familial bonds before Pein harmed them to even greater emotional effect at the time

 

make hinatas moments meaningful make them moments of character growth or development by following them up with conversation or a brief moment of introspection'

 

3: As in my head Canon and the Canon of the In your storylines Hinata must let go and move on, theres a dojin of this very subject i cant remember its name though but in the end one panel stood out it was Hinata walking away from naruto and Sakura while her yoingerself runs towards them. this image always stuck with me and i adopted it as the image of my own story 

 

Hinata in the end confessing to naruto but admitting shes lost to Sakura before walking away from her crush on naruto is the pinnacle of growth for her letting go of the obsessive love and growing up. We dont always get our crush in the end we have to be adults and live our lives while hoping the one we love does well and is happy. She does this lets her younger self run off but she moves on

 

Let Hinata grow up let her become a young lady instead of a little girl hiding behing a telephone pole all the time. 

 

long story short theres multiple easy steps to fix Hinatas character that dont involve assassinating others in the process and leave her with viable plot elements and potential for future story elements all while wrapping her story up neatly

 

Well said, Catsi! I feel that that's the biggest thing with Hinata; her obsession with Naruto prevents her true growth, and the fact is she doesn't even still KNOW the real him, or want to for that matter, considering how she seems to thrive on his failures to help bolster herself up, which shows how bad Hinata needs to grow up in terms of that.

 

That's one thing with my fanfic I try to work on too is that Hinata, due to Naruto ACTUALLY not leaving the village, does try to get to know him more, and realizes too how he's not like she expected or believes him to be as a proud failure, and that she also does attempt to spend some time with him on a date or so , but when things don't peter out to how she wants them to, she ends up sad for a while, but she will pick herself up, get some strong support from her aunt Sango, an OC in the story, as well as her friends, and begin to truly connect to Naruto rather than just seeing him as what she wanted to see him as and what she claimed she loved when she didn't even know him really.

 

It would also lead her to be very gentle, but more confident in herself and not just so shy, though she will stutter at times and stumble, but that's just part of life now and then.

[Bail o' Lies]

I can't believe I'm about to ask this but how would you fix Hinata's character?

Have her go through the standard moe storyline for one. Kishimoto cared so little about her she had no real arc in the series...though that's most characters in Naruto to be honest.

 

Standard moe storyline is shy girl grows a spine. Standard Tsudere is hostile/short-tempered girl admits to the feelings she is trying to deny having.

 

That or kill her because SP's obsession turned her into a terminal parasite for the franchise.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 18 January 2021 - 03:03 PM.

[TheFirstEvil100]

Have her go through the standard moe storyline for one. Kishimoto cared so little about her she had no real arc in the series...though that's most characters in Naruto to be honest.
 
Standard moe storyline is shy girl grows a spine. Standard Tsudere is hostile/short-tempered girl admits to the feelings she is trying to hide/refusing to admit.
 
That or kill her because SP's obsession turned her into a terminal parasite for the franchise.

Yeah I will have to agree with that last one, just kill her off. It happened in a what if Sasuke died.

[Chatte]

Hinata would be fixable even now, tbh, with all the mistakes.

 

Basically that's what I'm doing with my AU.

 

The point is by the end of the manga she turns into this selfish little girl - cuz insecure, she was already. And when Neji died she cared more about Naruto.

 

But what if there would be some PTSD and the fact that she acted that way made her come to her senses? Realize how Naruto-centered she was and how that got Neji killed?

 

This could work as a very interesting turning point for her imo. And that's what I want to expand on, in my AU.

 

I have already planned a whole storyline for her and Neji.

 

Point is ALL characters can be redeemed if you put quality writing into it.

 

Also, regarding that point with changing the translation for Kushina's words.

 

I've said it before in my interview, even this way it works in favor of NaruSaku, because think about it.

 

Don't fall for the first one that comes your way, so...

 

Who is the first one that likes Naruto?

 

Who is the first one who offers to "help" Naruto with the exam?

 

Who is the first one who confesses to Naruto?

 

They took it as the first one who comes your way as if Sakura ever came Naruto's way. But no, she didn't.

 

Naruto had to work his ass of for Sakura to notice him.

 

Basically what Kushina is saying there is don't fall for someone who easily falls at your feet, because easy come, easy go.

 

That's how things work irl.

 

So no matter how they try to twist it, there's no way one can touch NaruSaku's development.

 

It works no matter what context you put it in. It just does.

 

As simple as that.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Hinata would be fixable even now, tbh, with all the mistakes.

 

Basically that's what I'm doing with my AU.

 

The point is by the end of the manga she turns into this selfish little girl - cuz insecure, she was already. And when Neji died she cared more about Naruto.

 

But what if there would be some PTSD and the fact that she acted that way made her come to her senses? Realize how Naruto-centered she was and how that got Neji killed?

 

This could work as a very interesting turning point for her imo. And that's what I want to expand on, in my AU.

 

I have already planned a whole storyline for her and Neji.

 

Point is ALL characters can be redeemed if you put quality writing into it.

 

Also, regarding that point with changing the translation for Kushina's words.

 

I've said it before in my interview, even this way it works in favor of NaruSaku, because think about it.

 

Don't fall for the first one that comes your way, so...

 

Who is the first one that likes Naruto?

 

Who is the first one who offers to "help" Naruto with the exam?

 

Who is the first one who confesses to Naruto?

 

They took it as the first one who comes your way as if Sakura ever came Naruto's way. But no, she didn't.

 

Naruto had to work his ass of for Sakura to notice him.

 

Basically what Kushina is saying there is don't fall for someone who easily falls at your feet, because easy come, easy go.

 

That's how things work irl.

 

So no matter how they try to twist it, there's no way one can touch NaruSaku's development.

 

It works no matter what context you put it in. It just does.

 

As simple as that.

 

Yep! Well said, Chatte! And I know for a fact I'm gonna need to sit down and read your story, so it can give me some ideas and to see your hard work in action!

[Phantom_999]

Okay I think I'm gonna play devil's advocate here for a moment. While I am of the school of thought that Hinata as as character is irrelevant to the plot over all more or less, killing her off I don't think solves the fundamental problem. I never hated Hinata, I HATED HER FANS. And WHAT IS THE OBSESSION HER FANS HAVE OVER HER? It has nothing to do with Hinata, I've always said. It was the fact that Naruto had a crush on Sakura for a long time and the fact that Sakura is unsympathetic to him at first and was crushing on Sasuke, and the main fuel to the fire obviously was because Naruto was a neglected and abused orphan. You see it in the way that they argued for Hinata, she always loved Naruto, and therefore deserves him. Again, it has nothing to do with Hinata liking Naruto first, it is the fact they FELT Naruto DESERVES a sweet understanding childhood friend  that carries a torch for him with all the crap he went through as a kid, and so because that so happened to be Hinata that held a secret admiration for him, that is why they obsess that she has to be the perfect soulmate for Naruto.

 

It could have been ANY GIRL and they would rabidly defend her if she showed any sort of liking for Naruto, no matter how demented their reasoning. It could never be Sakura though in their minds, because she "had the audacity to not be that sweet affectionate childhood friend from the beginning". Never mind the fact that Hinata never interacted with Naruto, or even was a comfort to him either. IT HAS TO BE HER because she admitted to liking him, when he was that abused orphan.

 

My theory has always been if Sakura had "liked Naruto from the beginning", she wouldn't have such avid hatred directed at her, and that this obsessive love for Hinata that her loyalists have has less to do with her as a character and more so with offence at Sakura's initial treatment of Naruto. I am quite sure if Sakura "liked Naruto from the beginning" she would actually be more loved by the western fan base, and again this is judged based on how I see them argue when it comes to Sakura versus Hinata.

 

There was nothing to fix on Hinata, good or bad because she was just there and little to no impact on the story. Therefore killing her off does nothing. Though again if you want to make her a RELEVANT character with her own personality and presence in the story, again make her the spearhead for change in her dogmatic and traditionalist clan stigma and division since those "adhere to traditions" costed her uncle his life and had her cousin have hatred for for his own blood, lot in life, and also caused his fatalist views.

 

You can say that I'm wrong or argue against me, and I'll be fine with that. But then ask yourselves this first, and I'm sure you have already. "WHERE ON THIS BLUE AND GREEN EARTH do these arguments that Hinata is such a flawless goddess and Naruto's one true love come from then, if not what I've stated?"

Edited by Phantom_999, 23 January 2021 - 01:39 PM.

[Illnevergiveup3]

Okay I think I'm gonna play devil's advocate here for a moment. While I am of the school of thought that Hinata as as character is irrelevant to the plot over all more or less, killing her off I don't think solves the fundamental problem. I never hated Hinata, I HATED HER FANS. And WHAT IS THE OBSESSION HER FANS HAVE OVER HER? It has nothing to do with Hinata, I've always said. It was the fact that Naruto had a crush on Sakura for a long time and the fact that Sakura is unsympathetic to him at first and was crushing on Sasuke, and the main fuel to the fire obviously was because Naruto was a neglected and abused orphan. You see it in the way that they argued for Hinata, she always loved Naruto, and therefore deserves him. Again, it has nothing to do with Hinata liking Naruto first, it is the fact they FELT Naruto DESERVES a sweet understanding childhood friend  that carries a torch for him with all the crap he went through as a kid, and so because that so happened to be Hinata that held a secret admiration for him, that is why they obsess that she has to be the perfect soulmate for Naruto.

 

It could have been ANY GIRL and they would rabidly defend her if she showed any sort of liking for Naruto, no matter how demented their reasoning. It could never be Sakura though in their minds, because she "had the audacity to not be that sweet loving childhood friend from the beginning". Never mind the fact that Hinata never interacted with Naruto, or even was a comfort to him either. IT HAS TO BE HER because she admitted to liking him, when he was that abused orphan.

 

My theory has always been if Sakura had "liked Naruto from the beginning", she wouldn't have such avid hatred directed at her, and that this obsessive love for Hinata that her loyalists have has less to do with her as a character and more so offence at Sakura's initial treatment of Naruto. I am quite sure if Sakura "liked Naruto from the beginning" she would actually be more loved by the western fan base, and again this is judged based on how I see them argue when it comes to Sakura versus Hinata.

 

There was nothing to fix on Hinata, good or bad because she was just there and little to no impact on the story. Therefore killing her off does nothing. Though again if you want to make her a RELEVANT character with her own personality and presence in the story, again make her the spearhead for change in her dogmatic and traditionalist clan stigma and division since those "adhere to traditions" costed her uncle his life and had her cousin have hatred for for his own blood, lot in life, and also caused his fatalist views.

 

You can say that I'm wrong or argue against me, and I'll be fine with that. But then ask yourselves this first, and I'm sure you have already. "WHERE ON THIS BLUE AND GREEN EARTH do these arguments that Hinata is such a flawless goddess and Naruto's one true love come from then, if not what I've stated?"

to be honest, I'm in America and a lot of dudes where I'm from honestly believes that if a girl doesn't like you at first, then f*** 'em. They believe that putting the necessary energy into getting a girl to like you is a waste of time. I notice a lot of people have that same mindset, that if you love a girl and the girl doesn't magically love you back, then she isn't the "one for you" or you shouldn't waste your time. If you love a girl who doesn't immediately love you back and you're actually putting effort into trying to get her to return your feelings, then you're a "simp." I think that's ridiculous. If you love a girl, pursue them. That's how I look at it, and that's what Naruto does with Sakura-Chan. He pursues her, because he loves her and because in his heart, she's the apple of his eye and the one for him. Hinata likes him, but Naruto has his heart set on a woman that he literally looks at as a future wife, he imagines a future with her and has his heart and dreams set on her, any true Naruto fan would realize that instead projecting on him what they think is best for him, just because in real life, they don't have the courage or perseverance to go after the girl they want and don't have the energy to work their ass off to get her to look their way.

 

Besides, in terms of the romance subplot, killing her off will give them all of the excuses in the world,especially since they love to deny that Naruto loves Sakura-Chan.

 

"Naruto settled for Sakura only because Hinata wasn't around."

 

We need him to let her know that he doesn't return her feelings because he's in love with Sakura-Chan.

 

And I believe Hinata could be a decent character.

Edited by Illnevergiveup3, 19 January 2021 - 03:09 AM.

[Chatte]

 

Yep! Well said, Chatte! And I know for a fact I'm gonna need to sit down and read your story, so it can give me some ideas and to see your hard work in action!

 

Well, chapter 2 is up already, so feel free to check it out. I already posted the update on its dedicated thread.

But we're still not at the Hinata part. I barely jumpstarted Sakura's plot, heh.

 

However, I have a whole subplot developed for her, Neji and the Hyugas in general. 

[BlueStarSaber]

to be honest, I'm in America and a lot of dudes where I'm from honestly believes that if a girl doesn't like you at first, then f*** 'em. They believe that putting the necessary energy into getting a girl to like you is a waste of time. I notice a lot of people have that same mindset, that if you love a girl and the girl doesn't magically love you back, then she isn't the "one for you" or you shouldn't waste your time. If you love a girl who doesn't immediately love you back and you're actually putting effort into trying to get her to return your feelings, then you're a "simp." I think that's ridiculous. If you love a girl, pursue them. That's how I look at it, and that's what Naruto does with Sakura-Chan. He pursues her, because he loves her and because in his heart, she's the apple of his eye and the one for him. Hinata likes him, but Naruto has his heart set on a woman that he literally looks at as a future wife, he imagines a future with her and has his heart and dreams set on her, any true Naruto fan would realize that instead projecting on him what they think is best for him, just because in real life, they don't have the courage or perseverance to go after the girl they want and don't have the energy to work their ass off to get her to look their way.

 

Besides, in terms of the romance subplot, killing her off will give them all of the excuses in the world,especially since they love to deny that Naruto loves Sakura-Chan.

 

"Naruto settled for Sakura only because Hinata wasn't around."

 

We need him to let her know that he doesn't return her feelings because he's in love with Sakura-Chan.

 

And I believe Hinata could be a decent character.

 

 

This kinda reminds me of this joke family guy did about the law of 80s movies