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[totherpage95]

Heya folks, long time no talk.

 

Does anyone know when the interview of kishimoto claiming that he had no interest on doing naruhina? I have been looking for it but I have been unable to find it.

it supposedly was in a magazine that came after the last i don't know where to find it though honestly it feels like kishi said a lot of things in interviews i don't know what the truth is

[T XD]

It would be interesting if this specific interview gets shared here.

Edited by T XD, 19 June 2017 - 09:10 PM.

[Suigetsu]

It would be interesting if this specific interview gets shared here.

I will try to search for it. It was shown a long time ago, I am trying to dig it out in order to shut some NH wankers.

 

I also remember a interview with oda where he literally implied that "the last" was an insult to the shounen genre, an indirect call to kishimoto. Something along those lines.

[Bail o' Lies]

I will try to search for it. It was shown a long time ago, I am trying to dig it out in order to shut some NH wankers.

 

I also remember a interview with oda where he literally implied that "the last" was an insult to the shounen genre, an indirect call to kishimoto. Something along those lines.

Was that the one he did with Kishi?

[rocci]

I will try to search for it. It was shown a long time ago, I am trying to dig it out in order to shut some NH wankers.
 
I also remember a interview with oda where he literally implied that "the last" was an insult to the shounen genre, an indirect call to kishimoto. Something along those lines.

Oda never said that.

[sushi.]

I will try to search for it. It was shown a long time ago, I am trying to dig it out in order to shut some NH wankers.

 

I also remember a interview with oda where he literally implied that "the last" was an insult to the shounen genre, an indirect call to kishimoto. Something along those lines.

What that sounds fake to me, Oda isn't the type to shade other authors and he even made a tribute to Naruto's ending. You have a link?

[Gravenimage]

In truth I think Oda is disappointed in Kishimoto for not being in control of his own work, for not having any backbone. He let editors, studio Pierot, even the fans tell him how to write his story. 

[sushi.]

In truth I think Oda is disappointed in Kishimoto for not being in control of his own work, for not having any backbone. He let editors, studio Pierot, even the fans tell him how to write his story. 

Yeah I think many in the industry think that way. Maybe not initially but it got worse and worse so I can't imagine much else.

[totherpage95]

while i was looking for it i found another interview where kishi says he was deciding to make hinata the heroine instead halfway in because of popularity reasons  and nh fans still argue sakura was treated well by kishi and he didn't sell her out

[Wyle23]

and nh fans still argue sakura was treated well by kishi and he didn't sell her out

Lulz. Yeah, okay. Sure. That's why she's so loved, right? Totally not loathed, or wanted dead right from the beginning by many, or have her own "useless" meme, or any of that good stuff. Nah, that was just my imagination.

[sushi.]

while i was looking for it i found another interview where kishi says he was deciding to make hinata the heroine instead halfway in because of popularity reasons  and nh fans still argue sakura was treated well by kishi and he didn't sell her out

of course they say that because hinata never became a heroine

[rocci]

of course they say that because hinata never became a heroine

I think they use that interview to prove that Hinata supposed to be the heroine from the start and not sakura.

It doesn't make any sense when sakura is pretty much the staple heroine and female character in this manga, including Hinata herself. Heck even the new heroine is pretty much the uchiha version of herself.


Personally I will much more agree if sasuke is the heroine

[Bail o' Lies]

In truth I think Oda is disappointed in Kishimoto for not being in control of his own work, for not having any backbone. He let editors, studio Pierot, even the fans tell him how to write his story. 

I wouldn't doubt it. Kishimoto is really the closest thing Oda had for a rival for a long time. Kishimoto dominated the international while Oda dominated the homeland. From what I read Oda used Kishimoto's success to push himself to make One Piece Naruto's equal or surpass it with just Homeland (since one piece somewhat flopped internationally for a few years.) Seeing his friend and former rival turn into...what he is now is depressing.

 

Yeah I think many in the industry think that way. Maybe not initially but it got worse and worse so I can't imagine much else.

I don't doubt this either. Kishimoto is a 15 year veteran mangaka who's manga became one of the most successful internationally selling manga ever.  If they can do what they did to him it sets the precedent that they can do it to anyone. If SJ is able to tell how many chapters he has left and when he must end his manga they can do the same to Kubo. If SP was able to use the anime to force the manga to go with the girl they wanted they can do the same to Tokyo Ghoul.

[Bail o' Lies]

I think they use that interview to prove that Hinata supposed to be the heroine from the start and not sakura.

It doesn't make any sense when sakura is pretty much the staple heroine and female character in this manga, including Hinata herself. Heck even the new heroine is pretty much the uchiha version of herself.

Personally I will much more agree if sasuke is the heroine

It varies sometimes she is Karin's daughter (700), sometimes Sakura's (under kishimoto), sometimes she an anti-Sakura (under that pedophile), and other times she just a haughty former friend of the main character because of their parents that thinks he is an idiot that's barely a side character because they want their own anime created girl to be the heroine (under SP).

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 20 June 2017 - 08:07 PM.

[rocci]

@bail
Tbf, onepiece doesn't flop internationally, it just doesn't become big in america unlike naruto thanks to bad dub.

The last one, isn't that still based on sakura? Well not even sp can remove sakura influence.

Edited by rocci, 20 June 2017 - 08:10 PM.

[T XD]

I will try to search for it. It was shown a long time ago, I am trying to dig it out in order to shut some NH wankers.

 

I also remember a interview with oda where he literally implied that "the last" was an insult to the shounen genre, an indirect call to kishimoto. Something along those lines.

Either way, it's still a piece of gold with or without the Oda statement. Oda's statement is a huge plus.

[VanitasDS76491]

Either way, it's still a piece of gold with or without the Oda statement. Oda's statement is a huge plus.

I doubt Oda said that since they are friends and rivals, he might have something along the lines.

[Nostradamus]

Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if Oda actually said something like that, since that movie really is an insult.

I mean when was the last time you ever saw that a story in whatever format, that changes genre in the last second?

 

I don't know about you, but I have never seen anything like that happen, ever.

[Illnevergiveup3]

I wouldn't doubt that he said it. Kishimoto DESERVES and NEEDS to hear that, and Oda is best person to do that since he has the balls to actually stand up for his story. Saying that isn't mean as much as it is tough love, considering they are friends.

[VanitasDS76491]

I wouldn't doubt that he said it. Kishimoto DESERVES and NEEDS to hear that, and Oda is best person to do that since he has the balls to actually stand up for his story. Saying that isn't mean as much as it is tough love, considering they are friends.

It'd also shows how much a better writer oda is than kishi. Plus Oda plans kitten out. Oda would be the best to say that to him.