Jump to content

Close

Kagomaru

Member Since 05 Apr 2014
Offline Last Active Private

Posts I've Made

In Topic: The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

18 March 2024 - 06:40 AM

What bothers me about neutrality with fictional romance and taking it for as it is that viewers often forget the context of such things. Yes Naruto is a shonen battle manga that does not focus on romance as a theme per say but again there always that difference from other shonen manga that don't care about romance and make couples last second or treat it as a joke at best. Naruto has ALWAYS had feelings for Sakura and it is not a silly childhood crush or a fleeting feeling that he was not serious about or else there would never have been a POAL in the first place. Naruto shows complete selflessness towards Sakura and maturity in putting her happiness above his own. Sakura in turn shows that in her worst circumstances when she is most vulnerable and lost and upset and powerless it was Naruto that comforts her and listens to her problems. that lays the very foundation of how close they become throughout the story. I'm not going to repeat the moments they have together because it would just be redundant at this point. Think of it like this, What if Rurouni Kenshin remained unchanged in it's story and plot but Watsuki decided last second that Kenshin is would be happier with Megumi as his wife because she is more feminine and does not emasculate him, or maybe she looks more like his first wife and chucks all that development with Kaoru out the window. That is essentially what Naruto did at the end, it chucked the development between Naruto and Sakura out the window for a side character that has no real importance to the plot and for the main character in general. What if Slam Dunk resolved the love triangle with Kaede getting together with getting together with Haruko despite not showing any affection for her and doesn't care about romance in general and Haruko saying Hanamichi was only shallowly interested in her? Again That is what Naruto did. Naruto is not like other shonen series in that there is not romantic development at all and the author can slap together couples however they feel last second and whatever pleases them. Naruto had a love interest and they developed together progressively throughout the series and they owe a large part of their growth to each other. Typical romance writing in fiction, even if there is not an emphasis on it. This is different from Dragon Ball where Goku had no such moments with Bulma so who cares if he married Chichi? 

 

I know I haven't posted for a while But I just want to put that out there. In terms of Neutrality, context is very important if not everything

Hell, a similar situation happened to Devil is a Part-Timer.  The author went through over 20 volumes of developing Mao and Emi's relationship, unambiguously showcasing how their former animosity towards each other gradually becomes mutual attraction (with Mao explicitly admitting to himself that he enjoys seeing Emi's smile and wished to always protect her happiness, with him even noting that the emotions she arouses in him are nothing that he's ever felt before). This includes them even co-parenting a child and even establishing that Mao had a shared history with Emi's family that dates back to him meeting her mother as a child.  But what does the author do?  He tosses that development in the trash and put the main male lead with the obsessive big-boobed highschool girl that he's never entertained a single romantic thought about beyond friendship because of shock value and his own fetish.  And what did this result in?  Japanese fans review-bombing the hell out of the final volume of the series and sending death threats to his Twitter and email account.  The second season for the anime adaptation that came out last year also became one of the worst rated anime of the year because of the crap that the author pulled in the source material.  So yeah, a good foundation does matter when developing a fictional romance.

In Topic: The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

15 March 2024 - 02:36 AM

The Hinata heartbroken bit, that can be solved easily: have Naruto being honest with her in a private conversation, he is not interested in her romantically. It can benefit her to move on and find someone to be with her. She was never important in the first place. It was her fans (and some inside help) that were pushing her which resulted on how the franchise ended up now.

This, essentially. Not to mention that Hinata seemed perfectly resigned and content when she saw Sakura and Naruto embrace at the end of the Pain arc, which, at the time, seemed to symbolize her acceptance over their relationship. And it isn't as though unrequited love triangles haven't been a thing in shonen manga for decades now. By that logic, why is it okay for Naruto have his heart broken after pining after Sakura throughout the entire manga?

In Topic: Whats your OTP now that NS was given the pipe?

06 February 2024 - 03:25 PM

Did the new chapter came out?

Yup, it's already translated.

In Topic: Whats your OTP now that NS was given the pipe?

06 February 2024 - 07:13 AM

Senpai will confess :argh:

He did, and it was amazing. :yes:  I'm looking forward to seeing how they'll behave as a couple, especially once their friends and Nagatoro's siblings find out. :lulz:

In Topic: Whats your OTP now that NS was given the pipe?

06 February 2024 - 12:55 AM

Screenshot-2021-01-05-213015-e1609862715

Please Don't Bully Me, Miss Nagatoro! - Hayase x Naoto

And this is another of my OTPs that just became official.  Like, literally minutes ago.  I'm still giddy after reading the latest chapter.  This was one of the best love confessions that I've seen in a long while. :excited: