It pretty much comes down to the fact Sakura eventually confronts him about the bench scene and he tells her the truth in that instance. once the proverbial orange ninjas out of the bag let the comedy ensue before the inevitable confession
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#991137 Did NaruSaku only have a chance because Sasuke was away?
Posted by catsi563 on 22 May 2024 - 05:19 PM
#991085 Did NaruSaku only have a chance because Sasuke was away?
Posted by catsi563 on 08 May 2024 - 05:13 PM
It's true that Sasuke didn't give a damn about any fangirl, like Ino.
The conviviality on Team 7 played a key role in making Sakura stand out.
Eventually, Sasuke came to consider her an dear person to him and want to protect he
yes he did that was part of growth but he NEVER showed any form of actual affection or direct return of her feelings throughout this remained consistent to the point where at the end he had to practically spell it out for everyone that NO I HAVE NO FEELINGS FOR HER
Meanwhile, Sasuke made it clear Naruto became his best friend. Sakura's importance to him, however, remained open-ended. Was she just another best friend?
I'm not saying Sasuke will ask her out. never.
But it's possible that eventually, he will come to accept her feelings, if she were to grow even more in importance to him.
Just like he had no problem accepting her romantically at the end of the manga when he stoped to being obcessed about revange and let his past go...
This of course followed the garbage ending we got which i personally consider non canon given how bad it was everything past the manga titled the TRUE ending as it was called
While i wont dispute the possibility as anything can happen the story to that point does not support such a conclusion beyond a what if, No where does he accept her feelings
I don't think this is relevant. Sakura had several opportunities to ask about this moment, but never brought it up to Sasuke throughout Part 1.
When Sasuke left and she tried to stop him, it was the perfect chance to question him about the Forehead scene. But she remembers the later moment when he called her annoying because of her comment about loneliness.
She does question him as the moment happens right at the bench where it happend she asks in a round about way sadly the writing wasnt on point for this but Sasuke clearly states I have no memory of this which refutes her entire claim at the moment of the special moment they shared
When Sasuke returned, Sakura could have questioned him about this moment. But she preferred to ask if she could go with him. This led to the Forehead poke, which ironically, touched at the point of Sakura's insecurity.
And again, Sakura didn't relate or even remember the fake Sasuke complimenting her forehead at Chapter 3.
this sadly is bad writing and a plot hole left over from the eventual editorial interference the event shouldve been bought up as it is one of the pivotal moments in the ""relationship"" and i use the word loosely that had occurred.
yet its never bought up again BECAUSE it would torpedo things on the spot. Wait you didnt compliment and want to kiss my forehead
No I didnt i was tied up in the classroom because that brat naruto jumped me and disguised himself as me for some bloody reason
Naruto was disguised as you and OOOOOHH??? Ill kill him then i ressurect him then Ill kill him then ill kill him again
believe the NaruSaku relationship would develop much slower or almost become nonexistent in Part 2, just as it was in Part 1 and the post-manga period.
What brought Sakura and Naruto closer together was their mutual desire to bring Sasuke back, along with all the drama that surrounded him + POAL. With Sasuke present, this desire that united them and the POAL simply dissipates.
Disagree they were allready moving closer together as multiple interactions showed during the wave arc chunin exams and sand invasion the fond look she gave naruto a smile by the way she never showed to ANYONE but for him alone is more than ample evidence of the relationship growing
the three of them can be analogous to three lines one blue one pink one orange
the blue and pink lines start closer together with the orange line on the outside but moving paralel to them then the pink line moves away from the blue line and closer to the orange line as the story progresses eventually around the POAL does the pink line cross over the middle ground to move closest to the orange line their shared goal being a catalyst but hardly the only thing her own desires to be stronger her own choices to stand by his side all playing into the moment
nother important question: Would Sakura ever spontaneously confess her feelings to Naruto without the pressure from Sai about the POAL, and Sasuke in the village?
Probably not, while she would probably confess her feelings to Sasuke at some point, as she did twice in the canon.
yes eventually she would it would take time but would happen as Naruto always needed a bit of a kickstart in some ways
Sasuke the confessions were the same spontaneous confessions of any love sick crush and dismissed as cleanly as they were
for Sakura and Naruto its a larger deeper narrative one that would end with not so much a spontaneous confession as a mutual one where both just talk to each other and remember all that they shared
#991082 Did NaruSaku only have a chance because Sasuke was away?
Posted by catsi563 on 07 May 2024 - 04:45 PM
Yes there was a solid chance because the development was there
it was slower and steady but present. Sasukes presence sans all the drama wouldnt have changed Narutos actions really nor the fact that he did not have feelings for Sakura.
the issue is that the premise is based on SS being strong in part 1 well that fact is that isnt true because its missing one key element
namely a VERY large S
Sasuke was not present in the relationship as any form of equal partner and it was all in Sakura lap and one wall cannot build a house
the entire relationship was one sided where as in NS it was growing visually before our eyes and we could witness its progression
A Sasuke; sans all the drama,wouldnt really have a motivation to change anything as Sakura would be one of a collection of fangirls who dont know him and do nothing but fawn all over him. And Sakura would not distinguish herself from this by any stretch of the imagination until late in part 1. And that only because Sasuke left the vllage which led to the promise of a lifetime and Narutos actions which led to her desire to be stronger.
Its possible that Sakuras change could have come without the Sasuke drama as Sakura herself was shown slow signs of growth which was mostly due to Naruto plus her rivalry with Ino but this would have taken time.
theres also the bench scene to consider where in if Sasuke stays Sakura eventually confronts Sasuke about it in some attempt at a love confession only to discover the truth that it was Naruto all along who complimented her forehead
this throws an entirely new monkey wrench in the works as suddenly Sakura has to question everything she thought she knew
in Conclusion no i do not believe without a radical shift in Sasukes behavior and Sakuras for that matter that Sasukes presence would change the dynamic between the NS pairing it would be slower and take longer but it would still happen as the development was progressing in that direction as a wise manifesto said a long slow walk.
#990964 The Random Thread
Posted by catsi563 on 04 March 2024 - 06:41 PM
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*grab lance*
*hop on pengy charger*
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*peel off cartoon style*
=@_@= take that varlet *collapse*
#990864 2023 Merry Christmas And A Happy New Year
Posted by catsi563 on 25 December 2023 - 06:02 PM
Wishing everyone the warmest safest and happiest and most joyous of holidays
may they all be blessed and may we all Shannaro through the new years Believe it.
#989660 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread
Posted by catsi563 on 29 May 2023 - 06:09 PM
Well you have to look at four families as reference.
SS. Since Sakura raised Sarada on her own it gives you a sense how she would raise her children and how they would turn out whether she is with anyone or not.
Kizaishi and Mebuki from what little we seen of them Mebuki is the strict authority figure and sets the rules while Kizaishi just goes along and jokes around. Kishimoto also says they argue a lot.
Minato and Kushina again from little we see from the Ninja movie Kushina is the aggressive authority figure who sets the rule, while Minato goes along with as a sort of moderator.
And Kishimoto's own family life. His wife had to raise the kids and mange the house as he had to work all the time on Naruto. Of course he portrays his frustrations and guilt with this with nH due to not connecting with that pairing. But I do see if NS happen he would have went more hopeful and optimistic.
So, I see NS as Sakura running the household as the authority figure setting the rules while Naruto has to spend a lot of time running the village as Hokage. Naruto while busy I see him trying to make time a be there when he can and help out when he can. Granted I can't see Sakura letting the situation get as bad as Hinata let it get to by Boruto, and would address the situation if Naruto was neglecting their kids. Arguments/Conflicts happens and they are often resolved, but overall a loving family. The kids are hyper but well behave.
let me add a bit to this i see the NS family as full of love and affection and very playful until its time to be serious than the gloves come off so to speak, Also the kids would be pranksters but not as a need to seek attention but a need to prove themselves, Awww but mom dad once painted the 5 faces of hokage monument we had to one up him with all 7que exapserated sigh and nostalgic smile
#989623 Naruto: Alternative The Last (Doujinshi)
Posted by catsi563 on 24 May 2023 - 05:18 PM
That and the speech by Sakura after revealing apparently his true personality.
And said speech revealing ironically the worst about Sakura as well that she was aware he was using her and confirming she was using him too making both of them the worst
#988421 On a scale of 1-10 rate the Anime you're currently watching
Posted by catsi563 on 19 January 2023 - 05:46 PM
The Eminence in Shadow 10/10 Incredible visuals and a hilariously fun story that keeps you wondering just whats next
Reincarnated as a sword 10/10 Sword dad and frans adventures another really fun story with a neat twist on the classic issekai
Beast tamer 8/10 kicked out of the heroes party Rein tames some powerful species to become a true hero. fairly classic tropes but still a lot of fun
#988235 Merry Christmas Again And A Happy New Year
Posted by catsi563 on 25 December 2022 - 06:18 PM
wishing everyone a warm safe and the happiest of holidays and a wonderful and happy new years
#987817 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread
Posted by catsi563 on 30 September 2022 - 05:42 PM
An example of that for me is the Last of us 2 and it my primary criticism of the game. namely the ending.
throughout the ending after joels death. we get ellie hunting down abby to the point where she walks away from her new family in search of vengeance. in the end she lets abby live but is maimed in the process and comes home to find her new family gone
so the message of the end is that vengeance is bad and leads to loss
but it doesnt. abby got ger vengeance and in the end lives and saves the kid shes with and sails away to a safe harbor
meanwhile Ellie loses everything but she DOESNT get her vengeance
so vengeance pays off for abby
much as it did for Sasuke because of Narutos persistence and one good deed aka the saving of the world we never see the consequences of Sasukes decisions we never see the losses he suffers or the sacrifices he makes. he gets the girl gets to stay home as a hero and keeps the enormous near godlike powers he iobtained and the only loss he suffers is itachi his beloved big brother who was dead anyways at his hand like he wanted all along
#987780 Kakashi should have actually trained Sakura.
Posted by catsi563 on 20 September 2022 - 05:00 PM
Hell thats whats most vexing, Sakura actually subverts at least one tsundere trope in that she doesnt hit Naruto that much at all, 3-4 times max the entire manga. the anime is responsible for adding so many Sit boy moments to her character that she comes off as abusive when the reality is very different
#987760 Kakashi should have actually trained Sakura.
Posted by catsi563 on 14 September 2022 - 06:23 PM
Controversial as it may be I actually dont think Kakashi should have trained sakura. their skill sets are just too different. I do think he under trained her and should have provided her a teacher in the chunin exams kurenai would be a great choice to work her genjutsu a bit or one of the medic corp to aid her in becoming a more capable support and even laying a story foundation for her to want to learn more from Tsunade hell even a baseline bit of training from Guy in taijutsu would be a solid start
Still story wise I do think she wouldnt have benefited from Kakashis instruction as much as we might think she would have, Sakura story wise is someone who was forced to grow on her own and push herslf via her own merits until she took to Tsunades teachings
#987611 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread
Posted by catsi563 on 10 August 2022 - 05:04 PM
I would have loved to see that actually. Obito going after Sakura and Naruto going berserk over it. Would have been a nice was to tie in them getting together.
Thats why the whole Pein event wasnt the boost to NH that everyone thought it was.
Hinata was so irrelevant to the story that any of a number of people could have taken her place in that moment to similar or even greater emotional effect, Konohomaru, Iruka, Lee or especially Sakura,
if Naruto had seen Sakura the person he was in love with at that time Stabbed like that so casually Hed have gone full nuclear probably skipped 7 and gone right to 9
#987586 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread
Posted by catsi563 on 02 August 2022 - 04:14 PM
Story wise id guess that the intent of the transfer is to basically how do I put this. its combines the two eyes into one super eye effectively wiping out the weakness of the individual eyes. and ppening access to the full power of the eyes
individually the sharingan while powerful cant handle the raw chakra needed to use all the speical powers the human eye can only take so much power flowing through it without damaging it
so the double mangekyo reinforces the eye to superhuman levels which allows it to channel chakra more easilly meaning theres no risk of blindness as the eye no longer deteriorates with each use
just my two coppers
imma go get donuts now =^_^=
#987570 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread
Posted by catsi563 on 29 July 2022 - 12:54 AM
There is also a personality thing tio Kakashi favoring Sasuke, Kakashi said and it was well established that he and Sasuke are very much alike. again with the parallels prevalent throughout the story.
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