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#61 RedFaction

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Posted 26 May 2016 - 05:29 PM

How so? At least he isn't under FBI investigation like Hillary is. 

 

 

Argument: Trump is a racist! LIE!

 

Argument: Trump is sexist! LIE!

 

 

Honestly, if people would listen to the guy speak for 20 minutes and put some thought into what he says, he makes perfect sense. You don't become one of the world's richest and most successful people by being stupid. 

 

Hillary is a murderer. She has been involved in many, many things that should have her behind bars, but because she thinks she's so far above the law, she thinks she's untouchable.

 

As for Bernie, the only reason he's so high in the polls is because neither Hillary or Trump has attacked him yet. When they do attack him, his numbers will drop. The nominee is rigged for Hillary, so Bernie's wasting his time anyway. And when it comes down to Trump V Hillary...she's done for. Trump isn't going to play by her rules, and we all know how well using the "race card" or "woman card" works on him. The more people use those terms, the stronger he becomes. 

 

I'm not against the idea for a woman as president. I think it would be interesting. But Hillary needs to go. She's as corrupt as politicians come.

Let's be honest here, Trump is not one of the most richest people nor one of the most successful in the world. He's bankrupted 4 different companies, that says it all right there.

 

Also, it's not true that Bernie has never been attacked yet. The entire establishment has been against him his entire political career, and even if he loses, at least he brought to light many of the issues that progressives care about, so he's not wasting his time.


 


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Posted 26 May 2016 - 05:36 PM

Let's be honest here, Trump is not one of the most richest people nor one of the most successful in the world. He's bankrupted 4 different companies, that says it all right there.

 

Also, it's not true that Bernie has never been attacked yet. The entire establishment has been against him his entire political career, and even if he loses, at least he brought to light many of the issues that progressives care about, so he's not wasting his time.

I'm just going to let that video I posted do the talking on those statements. I've debunked the "bankruptcy" argument so many times it's laughable.  

 

"He's not one of the richest people or most successful people in the world"

 

Okay, that statement in and of itself is total BS. He took a loan of 1-million dollars and turned it into 10-billion. How you don't call that successful I'll never figure out. Also, three out of four of his "bankruptcies" were gambling related. Casinos are a tough business to keep up and running. 


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Posted 26 May 2016 - 05:52 PM

Also, if you can't watch facts about  a person you hate for the better part of an hour, let alone the sequel to the video, here's a shorter version.

 



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Posted 26 May 2016 - 05:54 PM

OK I'm gonna show you some of my favourite examples! :)

So, aside from wanting to punish women for abortion, he doesn't even say how?? He says he's pro choice like he forgets what he is! :laughcry: I've never seen him answer a question well, without evading it or making excuses. He does just like Clinton, but she at least sounds smart and confident while lying. Trump just mutters out unclear sentences and misspeaks his words.

 

Watch this one too.
This is one reason why I trust Sanders. I am pro-palestine and I judge pro-Isreal people pretty hard, but Sanders is the only candidate with any dignity.

 

But I'm going to ask you what I want to ask all Trump supporters; When has America ever been great?

It's built on the blood of natives and black people, who continue to bleed on the streets today. Let's be real I'm sure you're a white man so you like your country good for you, bad for so many others. America is not good, but in general, better than it has ever been before.


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Posted 26 May 2016 - 06:01 PM

I think I cannot take seriously anyone who takes Trump seriously. :twitch: The guy is a mockery of himself.

#feelthebern, all the way :)
And of course it's like this; Sanders > Clinton > Trump

Agreed since I hate Fascist, which he is one mind you!

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Posted 26 May 2016 - 06:06 PM

OK I'm gonna show you some of my favourite examples! :)

So, aside from wanting to punish women for abortion, he doesn't even say how?? He says he's pro choice like he forgets what he is! :laughcry: I've never seen him answer a question well, without evading it or making excuses. He does just like Clinton, but she at least sounds smart and confident while lying. Trump just mutters out unclear sentences and misspeaks his words.

 

Watch this one too.
This is one reason why I trust Sanders. I am pro-palestine and I judge pro-Isreal people pretty hard, but Sanders is the only candidate with any dignity.

 

But I'm going to ask you what I want to ask all Trump supporters; When has America ever been great?

It's built on the blood of natives and black people, who continue to bleed on the streets today. Let's be real I'm sure you're a white man so you like your country good for you, bad for so many others. America is not good, but in general, better than it has ever been before.

First off. CNN and MSNBC? Are you kidding me?! The two most unreliable sources in the United States? That's hilarious! The fact Chris Mathews - of all people - was talking gives you bonus points.

 

As for the bold part...how about you learn some American history before you go off spouting complete and utter bull kitten like that? That shows me how much you actually know about our history, which is next to nothing. It wasn't built on slavery. In fact, very few people owned slaves, and the FIRST person to own a slave was actually black. So you can take that argument off your list. Read a book for once instead of relying on what some idiot professor tells you. And don't try acting like Europe is some innocent by stander in what's going on in the world, too.

 

As for when has America been great? Oh, I dunno...how about during WWII, the 50's 60's and pretty much every time period before we let the liberals start taking over? That's pretty much your answer.

 

Also, every argument you might come up with debunked in less than 10 minutes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjMMFJHclJw


Edited by Dalton.T.R, 26 May 2016 - 06:14 PM.


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Posted 26 May 2016 - 06:15 PM

OK the source is not a newschannel and it doesn't matter how unreliable CNN is, everything comes out of Trump's mouth for gods sake I hope you understand that. :headscratch: But I'm done. No use of us discussing with eachother. Now I go watch some good TV and you guys fight.

 

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Agreed since I hate Fascist, which he is one mind you!

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Posted 26 May 2016 - 06:20 PM

First off. CNN and MSNBC? Are you kidding me?! The two most unreliable sources in the United States? That's hilarious! The fact Chris Mathews - of all people - was talking gives you bonus points.

 

As for the bold part...how about you learn some American history before you go off spouting complete and utter bull kitten like that? That shows me how much you actually know about our history, which is next to nothing. It wasn't built on slavery. In fact, very few people owned slaves, and the FIRST person to own a slave was actually black. So you can take that argument off your list. Read a book for once instead of relying on what some idiot professor tells you. And don't try acting like Europe is some innocent by stander in what's going on in the world, too.

 

As for when has America been great? Oh, I dunno...how about during WWII, the 50's 60's and pretty much every time period before we let the liberals start taking over? That's pretty much your answer.

 

Also, every argument you might come up with debunked in less than 10 minutes. 

WWII, and the 50s and 60s - all while under the leadership of pretty progressive and liberal men, or at least ones who supported pretty progressive and liberal ideas (FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, and, while very flawed, LBJ).
 


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Posted 26 May 2016 - 06:28 PM

OK the source is not A newschannel and it doesn't matter how unreliable CNN is, everything comes out of Trump's mouth for gods sake I hope you understand that. :headscratch: But I'm done. No use of us discussing with eachother. Now I go watch some good TV and you guys fight.

Oh, now that you have some facts being shoved down your throat you decide to back out? Typical.

 

Another thing...if you hate america so much, why bother watching our politics?  :twitch:

 

You apparently don't understand what you want. Europeans scream and complain about wanting the U.S to stay home and take care of its own problems, but the second we get a guy who suggests we do that, you bash him and side with the people who are responsible for half the BS that's happening now like Hillary freaking Clinton. How ironic. 

 

You realize that's actually what most Republicans want, right? Republicans, conservatives, or whatever you want to call us actually want the U.S to become more independent and live off of our own resources rather than relying on trade. The problem is the Democrats produce these cry babies who think they deserve the world on a silver platter when they graduate from college, and come to find out the real world isn't a very forgiving place. It's dog eat dog, and there's no "safety zone" they can crawl into and cry when the going gets tough. 

 

Rule number 1 of capitalism: Word hard. Live well. Slack off, live poor.  

 

WWII, and the 50s and 60s - all while under the leadership of pretty progressive and liberal men, or at least ones who supported pretty progressive and liberal ideas (FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, and, while very flawed, LBJ).
 

Kennedy was the last REAL president this country had. Though he was a democrat, he was a very good president. The others...jokes.



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Posted 26 May 2016 - 08:52 PM

The only reliable, unbiased TV newschannel here in the US is PBS Newshour. Period.


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Posted 26 May 2016 - 08:57 PM

The only reliable, unbiased TV newschannel here in the US is PBS Newshour. Period.

Yea but I'm sure you can admit that doesn't matter when I'm pointing to a video. :lmao:

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Posted 26 May 2016 - 09:07 PM

Yea but I'm sure you can admit that doesn't matter when I'm pointing to a video. :lmao:

I went back and re-watched the video. Trump stayed on point, and he answered the questions. I seriously don't see what your argument is here. 



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Posted 27 May 2016 - 01:01 PM

Yea but I'm sure you can admit that doesn't matter when I'm pointing to a video. :lmao:

I know XD I just wanted to say what TV newschannel here in the US is the most trustworthy cause I was bursting out laughing when FOX was cited as a "credible" newschannel.


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Posted 27 May 2016 - 04:52 PM

I know XD I just wanted to say what TV newschannel here in the US is the most trustworthy cause I was bursting out laughing when FOX was cited as a "credible" newschannel.

Most watched, most trusted, and I can continue. You only discredit them because they post actual FACTS.

 

I love it when one conservative is being overrun by leftists who try leaving their "safe zones" to debate.

 

Still waiting for one legitimate argument for Bernie sanders or Hillary Clinton. They're both jokes. 

 

Hillary Clinton: Single biggest liar on the planet and has more blood on her hands than some psychopath murderer in the middle ages. She left Americans to die multiple times, and demonized several women her husband raped. She silences those who speak out against her, and many people who do so somehow "mysteriously" disappear. 

 

Bernie Sanders: Lived off welfare for a large part of his life, and didn't receive his first paycheck until he was around the age of 40. He has no experience outside of politics, and the only people who are routing for him are college generation youths who have no idea how the real world works. They think they know how things work from reading about them in a book, but they don't have the slightest idea what's waiting for them outside the college walls. No one's going to give a damn about their fragile little feelings.

 

A vote for Killary is a vote for a murderer who deserves nothing other than to be thrown in prison.

 

A vote for Bernie is a vote for "free stuff" that isn't free, and a guy who has no experience with the outside world. Yeah, great candidates.

 

As usual, Democrats are jokers.


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Posted 27 May 2016 - 05:34 PM

ONE Trump supporter takes on an entire crowd of Hillary and/or Bernie supporters. And listen to their so called "arguments" 

 

 

 

 


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Posted 28 May 2016 - 08:25 PM

Still no comeback? Guess I'm going to say I've won this little debate since no one's trying to argue against my posts. 



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Posted 28 May 2016 - 08:57 PM

Still no comeback? Guess I'm going to say I've won this little debate since no one's trying to argue against my posts.

I think you are being extremely childish. If no one wants to talk to you, check your own attitude before calling everyone else losers.

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Posted 28 May 2016 - 09:00 PM

I think you are being extremely childish. If no one wants to talk to you, check your own attitude before calling everyone else losers.

I never called them "losers". If this is a political thread, then there's going to be people with opposing views. It's a fact of life. 


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Posted 28 May 2016 - 09:26 PM

I never called them "losers". If this is a political thread, then there's going to be people with opposing views. It's a fact of life.

That's beside the point, but you did call yourself a winner, so then we 'lost'. Your attitude says more than choice of words tho. But I guess I shouldn't have exaggerated it to make my point. Which you didn't get anyhow, considering the last part.

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Posted 28 May 2016 - 09:29 PM

That's beside the point, but you did call yourself a winner, so then we 'lost'. Your attitude says more than choice of words tho. But I guess I shouldn't have exaggerated it to make my point. Which you didn't get anyhow, considering the last part.

smh.

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Classic  :roll:

 

Considering I haven't seen very impressive arguments supporting the leftist candidates, I'll continue to stand by what I said. If I sound like I'm being childish to some, then I honestly couldn't care less. 


Edited by Dalton.T.R, 28 May 2016 - 09:32 PM.






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