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Poll: Do you believe the time-travel theory is true? (20 member(s) have cast votes)

Yes or No?

  1. Yes (4 votes [20.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  2. No (11 votes [55.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 55.00%

  3. Not sure (5 votes [25.00%])

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#1 Codus N

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 03:42 PM

As we NS fans know, Paradox Jast has come up with one of the MOST plausible theories out there. In which, the theory being the Minato's time-travel theory. To be honest, this theory is one of the best the fandoms has ever come up with. I'm one of the firm believers that Minato DID time travel to the future. If you think about it, it all makes sense. The trick with the fail-safe devices in Naruto's seal, Minato's odd attitude during that night and lastly, the possibility of Edo Tensei bringing him back, which I think I can understand where PJ is going to take the story now. (I know it may not have been your intention, PJ but I think the story so far fits now)

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 06:41 PM

*votes* And now all bars are same size.

 

 


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Posted 19 November 2010 - 08:55 PM

Could someone this whole Minato time traveling thing to me? Because I honestly have no idea what your talking about.

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 09:04 PM

Perhaps you could link or repost it Newkerz just to clarify. That would be awesome!

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 01:44 AM

The basic theory posited in PJS hindsight foresight story, is that while working with his Hirashin Seal, Minato accidently travels forward in time. While there he meets Naruto and the Sandaime and Jiraiya. Upon his return he adjusts the seal and travels again to different points in the future.

The premise is that using this knowlegde gained from his trips, Minato who is a genius already, but now is forearmed with knowledge of the future is able to create a series of failsafes and back up plans that kick in at certain events. Such as the sealing part of himself and kushina inside naruto, extra locks on the seal, allowing the seal to leak chakra so kyubis chakra will be absorbed into narutos system. And so on and so forth.

Its a basic premise that Minatos genius is based on both his natural intelligence and gifts and his foresight.
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Posted 20 November 2010 - 09:04 AM

Tell me Minato for-sought Naruto and Sakura getting together and I will believe it all.

I don't know, it is a bit of a stretch. Perchance he could have forsaw the future, but to be honest it seems like a cop-out. Like saying "this was all a dream" kind of thing.

Perhaps, Minato knew Madara was going to go after the Nine-tails for some reasons and decided that he needed to prepare his son for the future. Later, messages to let Naruto know why and how things ended up as they did.

I don't know if Minato new exactly what was going to happen, but I have a feeling he had a good idea.
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Posted 20 November 2010 - 01:48 PM

I loved the theory of Minato time travelling from PJ's story, but it's also the least likely from the many theories we've seen in WC, He was quite close with his theory about the two villagers being close, the power to sense other chakra sources is also one I beleive is possible to be one of the many different bloodline limits the Uzumaki clan to have, as i'm still convinced Karin is a Uzumaki.

But time travel Minato's pretty much been disproved with the sealing flashback, Minato had no clue who he was fighting, he didn't know about the future...he did what he did because he had faith in his son.

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 02:25 PM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Nov 20 2010, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Tell me Minato for-sought Naruto and Sakura getting together and I will believe it all.

I don't know, it is a bit of a stretch. Perchance he could have forsaw the future, but to be honest it seems like a cop-out. Like saying "this was all a dream" kind of thing.

Perhaps, Minato knew Madara was going to go after the Nine-tails for some reasons and decided that he needed to prepare his son for the future. Later, messages to let Naruto know why and how things ended up as they did.

I don't know if Minato new exactly what was going to happen, but I have a feeling he had a good idea.


Actually, he did tongue.gif it's a NS fic although NS is not the focus of the story.

As for Minato knowing exactly what was going to happen, he could've known exactly what was going to happen or gotten a good idea of what was going to happen. It doesn't have to happen the way PJ's predicted it, but the premise is VERY plausible. Remember that Hiraishin was considered one of the finest works of the art of Fuuinjutsu. I really wouldn't put it past Minato that he secretly (by accident) created a version that lets him time-travel.

QUOTE (harry4e @ Nov 20 2010, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I loved the theory of Minato time travelling from PJ's story, but it's also the least likely from the many theories we've seen in WC, He was quite close with his theory about the two villagers being close, the power to sense other chakra sources is also one I beleive is possible to be one of the many different bloodline limits the Uzumaki clan to have, as i'm still convinced Karin is a Uzumaki.

But time travel Minato's pretty much been disproved with the sealing flashback, Minato had no clue who he was fighting, he didn't know about the future...he did what he did because he had faith in his son.


Nope. Think about it. First, Minato faced Madara one-on-one, then he asked him "are you Madara?" I think that was simply Minato trying to get a reaction out of him. He wanted to see the way his body language react to that question. Remember, even if Minato's not a sensor, he should be able to try and come to a conclusion about Madara by reading his body and speech.

Second, Kushina decided to kill herself and Kyuubi by resealing it inside her, thus sparing Minato and Naruto's lives. But Minato just went ahead and used the Shiki Fuujin to seal Kyuubi in his son, something Kushina objected strongly. If I were him, I think I would've decided to live, in order to respect her wishes. But Minato decided otherwise. Why?? because Minato knew that his alternate self had already sealed Kyuubi in Naruto. If he had decided not to, it could create a parallel universe and things could go wrong. Remember that in his story, Minato wanted to try to preserve the timeline while trying to tweak it a bit. And we know that Minato wants to be "resurrected" in a time line where his return wouldn't create a controversy. Anyways, back to my point. Minato decided to use Shiki Fuujin because it had to happen that way. Otherwise, his plan could be ruined.

And there's Kabuto and his Edo Tensei.

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There's been the rumor going around that RM will release the ET zombies from Kabuto. It's because of Naruto's Yang energy that's leaking out from RM.

I think it's partly true, though. It won't release the ET zombies but it will release Minato from ET. I think Minato may have designed that RM is to react to Minato's chakra so that it can resurrect him. Hell, he may have even planned for it to react to Kushina's chakra as well.

Minato wants to be resurrected at a time where it won't cause a lot of commotion. Well, this is it.

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 07:10 PM

I meant initialy didn't have a clue, even after he deduced it was Madara, he wasn't certain it was Madara, but he did know the only way to truelly defeat him would be using the power of Kyuubi, and the reason for that was because of the prophesy Jiarya had told him, If Minato wasn't the child of prophesy, and as far as he knew the first three students were dead, Minato deducted the only other candidate was Naruto, Jiaraya's Godson, as it wouldn't be to difficult to conclude that Jiaraya would want to train him when Naruto got older.

Minato's souls was eaten by the Shinigami, we saw it happening, there is no coming back from that, Unless Madara requies the Ying energy of the Kyuubi and forces the soul out from the Shinigami stomach, I don't see Minato making a comeback....which come to think of it, might actually happen, if Madara wants all 9 beasts powers.

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 12:06 AM

QUOTE (Newkerz @ Nov 20 2010, 06:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually, he did tongue.gif it's a NS fic although NS is not the focus of the story.

As for Minato knowing exactly what was going to happen, he could've known exactly what was going to happen or gotten a good idea of what was going to happen. It doesn't have to happen the way PJ's predicted it, but the premise is VERY plausible. Remember that Hiraishin was considered one of the finest works of the art of Fuuinjutsu. I really wouldn't put it past Minato that he secretly (by accident) created a version that lets him time-travel.


That wouldn't explain why he didn't just forsee the Nine-tails attack and prevent it before it even happened.

It's a good theory, but it had holes. In fact, why didn't he just travel backwards and stop Madara before he attacked.

While I don't want to be a party pooper, there is just small holes in the theory.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 21 November 2010 - 12:22 AM.

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 04:20 AM

He could've prevented Kyuubi from being ripped out of Kushina, but after going even farther into the future, a timeline where it is a little after Naruto's rule as Hokage and after the Ninja war, he found what Madara was doing. Not only that, he found out what he did with the seal (how he tweaked it) I think he basically got the general idea about him tweaking the seal.

Sure, he could've gone back further to kill Madara, but the thing is, as potrayed in PJ's story, he wants to preserve the timeline while also trying to find a way to tweak it (but not drastically) I think Minato is a smart man, he knows that messing the timeline so drastically would be wrong, it's the same as playing god. But Minato is definitely someone who doesn't intend to do so. He merely wants to try to find a way to alter the timeline while not creating such a huge impact on it. I think, if I had to describe it, Minato wanted his "impact" to be nothing more than a drop of water falling to the ground. That's what I think he planned to do.

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 06:00 AM

Maybe, but even a drop of water can change the timeline drastically. To which that is unknown. Minato could have also made a situation worst.
Even the smartest can't predict the future that much even if he time travels.

This is like the Fable games if anyone has ever played them.

Theresa said that time is not a straight line. There are things that can happen, there are things that should happen, and then there are things that no matter what you do you can not change the outcome. This might explain why Minato didn't just go back in time to kill Madara. (assuming of course this theory is true)

No matter what he did, the time would always end up at that point. So instead of trying to prevent it or reverse it decided to alter it to gain more of an advantage for Naruto, but he could have also made it worse for Naruto as well.

Who knows what changes he made actually helped or hurt the future until that bridge gets crossed.
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Posted 21 November 2010 - 06:42 AM

When did all this Hiraishin and RM/ET and Kushina/Minato sealings parts of themselves in naruto happen? Have I missed something?

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 06:44 AM

Thats exactly correct. Half the AU fanfictions deal quite literally with that very same philosophy both rightly and wrongly. A simple change such as Anko taking Naruto in at a young age, or Naruto meeting Sakura much earlier then depicted, or revealing himself at the bench scene instead of disguising himself as Sasuke.

All of these can have numerous larger changes in the over all story as they affect indirectly or directly the path of narutos development as well as other characters. That type of what if is a prime theorey in most time travel stories and theoreys as well.

One thing about going to the past and changing an aspect is that i see in many stories that authors tend to forget to have the character make the trip back after the changes are made in order to assure the changes occured in the first place.

The smartest plan for Minato in that corcumstance, is literaly to do exactly as he did. Set small little things that dont change the main time line to drastically, but do affect and help Naruto as he grows, and insure that when the times right he and possibly Kushina can return.
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Posted 21 November 2010 - 08:19 AM

And of course, about their possible "return" I'm more of hoping that they can only stay for a short time, but enough for them to enjoy their lives together. I'm thinking a max of 1 year. If this theory is true, and that Minato is planning to resurrect himself, I believe that when they do get resurrected, I'd say Minato will say their resurrection has a time limit. I feel that would fit with Minato's views that no matter what he does, he still isn't god. Which I think why there will be a time limit.

Besides, it'll give Minato & Kushina a bit of time to get to know Sakura closer.

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