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#9641 Pix

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Posted 15 June 2015 - 05:17 PM

Sigh....see, I was like that too. I really didn't believe that Karin was the mother cause I didn't want to be fooled. But I think the last page of chapter 7 says it all. Karin is really Sarada's mother. Plus, what would be the point of this gaiden if she wasn't the mother and it was Sakura all along? That would be a waste of time. Remember that Narusaku was never confirmed in canon, but this....just was. 


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Posted 15 June 2015 - 05:25 PM

don't worry there will be another spinoff after this.

 

Yep , it's called Gaara Gaiden and is about his kid trying to find out who is his real mother : the princess or her sister .


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Posted 15 June 2015 - 05:30 PM

Did Naruto really even know? He even told Suigetsu that he didn't and called Sasuke a bastard. If he did know I'm sure his reaction would have been different

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Posted 15 June 2015 - 05:57 PM

lol it appeared Sasuke knew though. I'm not sure if I analyzed it right, but as soon as Sarada went to go talk to Suigetsu, Sasuke had this look on his face like something would have happened if she talked to him.

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Posted 15 June 2015 - 09:27 PM

lol it appeared Sasuke knew though. I'm not sure if I analyzed it right, but as soon as Sarada went to go talk to Suigetsu, Sasuke had this look on his face like something would have happened if she talked to him.


Sorry but no. Sasuke-kun was just too worried for his kidnapped waifu that he doesnt have time for this... or so they say in ffnet


I still would like to know why it's called the Scarlet Spring.


Because SCARLET (Karin) will hook up with SPRING (Haruno)..

Or in another translation. Both got screwed. Gaiden and the targets for scrutiny. Karin and Sakura.

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Posted 15 June 2015 - 10:16 PM

The worst thing i can say about pan was that in gt she was kind of bratty but then again she was a teenager. But like you said when it came down to it she was sweet and had kind heart. Bolt's entire character is that he hates his kitten old man for not spending time with him and comes off a incredibly brat and hold grudges. Hell the one thing you can consider  him doing a kind act is delivering his mom bento to his father. And at the end when his father left be fore he could give it to him he had to be shamed by salad to give it to her to deliver. Not join her in delivering it to his father but to hand it over implying to me he would have just thrown it in the trash or something if Salad did shame him.

Well. at least that version of Pan is no longer canon.



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Posted 15 June 2015 - 10:45 PM

It just says a lot about Kishi's writing that he needs to resort to some "who's the mother" drama to drive the plot of his spin off. It's cheap.



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Posted 15 June 2015 - 11:03 PM

Plus, what would be the point of this gaiden if she wasn't the mother and it was Sakura all along? That would be a waste of time. 

Asking this of mangaka that literally throwed away every single message from his original Naruto work, yeah. 



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Posted 15 June 2015 - 11:15 PM

Well. at least that version of Pan is no longer canon.

Yep and the fact theat she can kick everyone butss is all the more funny when you think about it as well.

 

Pan Vs Sasuke, well she would just kitten slap him in the face sending him flying into a tree and giving that Son smile we all see from that family.



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Posted 16 June 2015 - 12:43 AM

Asking this of mangaka that literally throwed away every single message from his original Naruto work, yeah. 

Well you know what they say, "if he can do it to 700 chapters then he can do it to 10".  :zaru:


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Posted 16 June 2015 - 12:51 AM

Well, she still dresses like Sakura in the movie, so I assume she will accept Sakura as her mother at the end of Gaiden. Even if there won't be a reveal that Suigetsu got the test wrong

 

If at the end of the manga, Kishi doesn't asspull the whole DNA thing, and Karin is still Salad's biological mother, but Salad still sees Sakura as a mother, who has been raising her alone for 12 years...yes I said alone. Then kudos to her, she got my respect.


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Posted 16 June 2015 - 01:04 AM

 

If at the end of the manga, Kishi doesn't asspull the whole DNA thing, and Karin is still Salad's biological mother, but Salad still sees Sakura as a mother, who has been raising her alone for 12 years...yes I said alone. Then kudos to her, she got my respect.

Well its what Edothetalking said heck its what I am hopping as well that Karin is Sarada's mum.



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Posted 16 June 2015 - 01:27 AM

don't worry there will be another spinoff after this.


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Edited by AHK, 16 June 2015 - 01:28 AM.

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 01:34 AM

So, I skimmed through some of the comments pertaining to the last chapter of Gaiden... if I get it right, the spoiler is indeed true? That according to some magic DNA detector device, Karin is Salad's mother?

 

Nice try Kishi. Guess what? We know that Sakura is Salad's mother, at the very least, SS happy ending will be the conclusion of all this unnecessary drama... Those who left the fandom doesn't care, really... They're just here to laugh at your Gaiden...

 

I can't help but feel disgusted with all the characters. No sympathy to any of the characters at all.

 

We have an adult who lied to his best friend's child --he's supposed to be a hokage above all.

 

We have a father who never present in his only daughter's life. A husband who seems to be so distant with his wife, barely converse with her, even after 12+ years of not seeing each other... and he's also showing only a little remorse when the wife is abducted.

 

An abusive mother who is so distant with her only daughter, such that the daughter don't want to have anything to do with her mother. The mother has no place at all to talk about parenting. Whatever she said feels very empty...

 

Don't talk about love amongst them, I don't think even a decent bond exists between them. Pretty ironic for a series who promoted about bonds for the past 15 years...

 

If these characters are teenagers, I could probably understand and sympathize with them. For God's sake, they are fully matured adults after chapter 700. Aren't they supposed to learn from their journey (you know, the one we've been following over the past 15 years?). What was the lesson learned after the journey again? Oh yeah, that's right... NONE....

 

Are we supposed to feel sympathy for Salad? The same way as what we used to feel for Naruto, Sasuke or Sakura (given their tragic backstory, a never-give-up teenager trying to protect everyone, a medic-nin wanted to protect her teammates)? Well, if we're supposed to feel sympathy for the new generation, I think they've done a miserable job at it. Those sympathy comes with a structured story-telling... one that lasted for hundreds over chapters... What do you expect to get with 10 chapters?

 

I'm not sure which audience they are targeting this time with the new series. If it's pro-ending audience, aren't they supposed to entertain NH and SS even more? So far, Bolt, Hinata or Hima-who are barely touched.. and we can safely conclude that SS marriage is a train wreck...

 

It really shows how poorly planned this writing is. Either there's never any plan to begin with, or the original one are hastily updated to bring back lost readers...

 

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 01:59 AM

So Forneverworld is bummed out that gaiden is only ten chapters.

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 02:27 AM

The problem with Sakura not being the mother, would be how would Naruto not notice, she never showed being pregnant. So, unless Kishi just leaves it as a plot hole, the only way for salad to logically be Karin's is if Sakura had a miscarriage and found out she could never have children of her own.

I'm not willing to put anything past Kishi, but with the series so short, I'm sure he's gonna recon everything to have a sloppy rushed conclusion to lead into the movie.

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 02:35 AM

Did Naruto really even know? He even told Suigetsu that he didn't and called Sasuke a bastard. If he did know I'm sure his reaction would have been different

Honestly looking at the scene the words and how it plays out it could be interpreted either that he didn't know and was angry at the situation. Or he did know and was angry at suigestu for revealing it.

 

In my opinion he really didn't know.When suigetsu asked if he knew he said he didn't and then called Sasuke a bastard. Also earlier on he compared Salad to Sakura (also Sasuke but that's not important) basically saying she was her mother daughter. He came off as really sincere, like he really did believe that Salad was Sakura's daughter. Honestly the gaiden seems to imply that naruto hasn't really been involved in the uchiha's family life for over 12 years. The only people that really know if Salad is Sakura's daughter are Sasuke and Sakura. Sasuke doesn't even talk to his daughter, and when Sakura came off that she would answer salad's question she quickly got kidnapped.



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Posted 16 June 2015 - 02:37 AM

So Forneverworld is bummed out that gaiden is only ten chapters.

Why do people care what that loser thinks?



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Posted 16 June 2015 - 02:59 AM

The problem with Sakura not being the mother, would be how would Naruto not notice, she never showed being pregnant. So, unless Kishi just leaves it as a plot hole, the only way for salad to logically be Karin's is if Sakura had a miscarriage and found out she could never have children of her own.
I'm not willing to put anything past Kishi, but with the series so short, I'm sure he's gonna recon everything to have a sloppy rushed conclusion to lead into the movie.


The only explaination for how Naruto(and the rest of the village) didn't know is if Sakura was with Sasuke at the time and they returned after Sarada's birth

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 03:01 AM

Why do people care what that loser thinks?


Exactly omg


 





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