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#621 Dalton.T.R

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 05:09 AM

"None of the wars have ended"

 

*cough* Korean War *cough*

 

And the way things have been going, France could be the next to leave the EU. 

 

 

 

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 03:25 PM

The only countries I can see leaving the EU right now besides UK right now would be Greece, Italy and maybe Poland

 

Also none of the wars that are ongoing have stopped and North and South Korea are currently negotiating a peace treaty right now but I very sceptical that it will pass right now.

Yeah it's too early to proclaim peace in Korea. Nothing is set in stone yet. But I must say peace between north and south was one of president Moon's most important campaign promises, so creds to him for getting this far. Trump jumped on the bandwagon and met with Kim Jongun, but accomplished nothing. Whatever peace Korea might achieve it is not due to Trump.

 

As for liberalism's "failure", EU's policies are right-wing. :shrug: Countries aren't quitting EU right now because of that, but that doesn't mean the left is doomed. A country can be out of the EU and anti-immigration, and still keep their leftist policies. I am against EU too but for different reasons. Not to mention the term liberalism means right-wing in Europe. Many liberalists are laissez faire-capitalists. It's the opposite in the US but not all leftists are liberals either.


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Posted 06 February 2019 - 04:39 PM

AnimeNewsNetwork is causing a "Anime Gate."



Thanks to AnimeNewsNetwork, who spread lies, Vic Mignogna has been fired from Rooster Teeth, Funimation, and banned from Comic-Cons. These bastards have ruined another man's life over false news. They reported he supposedly touched girls without their permission, but the girls said they gave consent and they don't want their pictures to be used to trash this man's life.

When is this going to stop? This SJW crap and filing false claims and ruining men's lives because these people are so bloodthirsty for a witch hunt. This is why people think feminism and Political correctness is a witch hunt.

Vic was just in Dragonball Super playing Broly and now he is fired from it because "AnimeNewsNetwork says he raped girl." Vic even gave out an apology and an explanation and they STILL crucified this man causing him to lose him job. Now I heard he is getting a lawyer to sue ANN. I hope he wins. I am so sick of kitten like this.

This is totally disgusting and these smug people are sitting their proud of themselves.

South Park was right.
"There's a war coming and some people are making sure they are on the right side of it."

A war on political correctness and Social Justice where SJWs will say "You are either on our side or you're a rapist."

VIC DID NOTHING WRONG.

Some of these people are so sensitive that just looking at them puts you up on rape charges....AND THEY ARE GETTING AWAY WITH IT.

 


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Posted 06 February 2019 - 07:58 PM

AnimeNewsNetwork is causing a "Anime Gate."



Thanks to AnimeNewsNetwork, who spread lies, Vic Mignogna has been fired from Rooster Teeth, Funimation, and banned from Comic-Cons. These bastards have ruined another man's life over false news. They reported he supposedly touched girls without their permission, but the girls said they gave consent and they don't want their pictures to be used to trash this man's life.

When is this going to stop? This SJW crap and filing false claims and ruining men's lives because these people are so bloodthirsty for a witch hunt. This is why people feminism and Political correctness a witch hunt.

Vic was just in Dragonball Super playing Broly and now he is fired from it because "AnimeNewsNetwork says he raped girl." Vic even gave out an apology and an explanation and they STILL crucified this man causing him to lose him job. Now I heard he is getting a lawyer to sue ANN. I hope he wins. I am so sick of kitten like this.

This is totally disgusting and these smug people are sitting their proud of themselves.

South Park was right.
"There's a war coming and some people are making sure they are on the right side of it."

A war on political correctness and Social Justice where SJWs will say "You are either on our side or you're a rapist."

VIC DID NOTHING WRONG.

Some of these people are so sensitive that just looking at them puts you up on rape charges....AND THEY ARE GETTING AWAY WITH IT.

 

In this case, definitely agree. It's clear that there wasn't anything close to a full investigation into anything.

Now don't get me wrong, I am glad that sexual assault and rape victims are getting more justice, BUT it should still be a case-by-case basis and, again, involve full investigations into the allegations rather than simply knee-jerk, emotionally-charged reactions. That's the only way to truly ensure that justice is served.


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Posted 06 February 2019 - 08:30 PM

In this case, definitely agree. It's clear that there wasn't anything close to a full investigation into anything.

Now don't get me wrong, I am glad that sexual assault and rape victims are getting more justice, BUT it should still be a case-by-case basis and, again, involve full investigations into the allegations rather than simply knee-jerk, emotionally-charged reactions. That's the only way to truly ensure that justice is served.

But isn't that common sense? If a sexual assault and rape actually happens, then the perpetrator should be punished if the evidence shows. People are not arguing against this, but some people think that if you ask for evidence you are "victim blaming" and a "rape apologist."

Considering that false rape accusations are on the rise and proving more and more to be a problem, these women should be ashamed of themselves. They talk about "we must believe," but when proven wrong and shown they are wrong because what they explain happened never did, they give a bad image to REAL victims.

It is the REAL victims who are suffering. The REAL people who went through a horrible event because some other girl wants to whine that she was sexually assaulted because a man hugged her. I have seen reports where people are charged with pedophilia for changing their babies diaper, hugging their kids, and loving them as parents. While the real pedophiles are not being charged with anything cause they say "adults loving young boys should be legal because it is bigotry if they are tried."

Like, the REAL bad guys are getting off of everything and defended by these people while the innocent people are being thrown in jail because the girl has a grudge. This is not an illusion, this is actually happening and some people are not taking this seriously. Oh, but if a man is subject to sexual assault like Brandon Urie was with female fans....people completely ignore it. They do the victim blaming themselves and tell him that women can't sexually assault men.

Has the whole world gone mad? 

I am not trying to discredit real victims...I am trying to stop the fakers from ruining people's lives. 

I hate the fact that people don't take facts into consideration.
Person A: "I have gay friends. How am I homophobic?"
Person B: "Just because you have gay friends does not mean you can't be homophobic."

How does it not disprove homophobia? A man support his gay friend to get married, have a life, and loves him as any friend would, but you still want to claim he is homophobic? What if I said "Just because you stick up for gay rights does not mean you can't be homophobic either if that is the case."

These people hate just to hate and frankly I am sick of it.

What next?
I am sexist just because I was born male.
I am racist just because I was born white.
I am a homophobe just because I had sex with a girl.
I am a bigot just because I disagree.

They call Vic Mignogna a homophobe because he didn't want to sign a Yaoi fan art, but forget that this dude stood up to real Homophobes ON VIDEO.


Are these people blind?

This is what I am talking about. This is what gets me angry with people today. I don't care if you voted for Hillary or Trump. I don't care what political party you are apart of. I don't care what your religious beliefs are, but when you purposely go after people to RUIN their lives because you want to feel all high and mighty with yourself....well, I have no tolerance for you. These people have no respect for anyone, but themselves. Hell, they even go after their own kind if they even say the wrong word. There is no loyalty...only narcissistic virtue. These people are out for revenge and they call it "justice."

 

It needs to stop.             

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 09:16 PM

Wait, why should the women feel bad if they say they gave their consent? They weren't the ones accusing him.

 

"I hate the fact that people don't take facts into consideration.
Person A: "I have gay friends. How am I homophobic?"
Person B: "Just because you have gay friends does not mean you can't be homophobic.""

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 04:50 AM

But isn't that common sense? If a sexual assault and rape actually happens, then the perpetrator should be punished if the evidence shows. People are not arguing against this, but some people think that if you ask for evidence you are "victim blaming" and a "rape apologist."

Considering that false rape accusations are on the rise and proving more and more to be a problem, these women should be ashamed of themselves. They talk about "we must believe," but when proven wrong and shown they are wrong because what they explain happened never did, they give a bad image to REAL victims.

It is the REAL victims who are suffering. The REAL people who went through a horrible event because some other girl wants to whine that she was sexually assaulted because a man hugged her. I have seen reports where people are charged with pedophilia for changing their babies diaper, hugging their kids, and loving them as parents. While the real pedophiles are not being charged with anything cause they say "adults loving young boys should be legal because it is bigotry if they are tried."

Like, the REAL bad guys are getting off of everything and defended by these people while the innocent people are being thrown in jail because the girl has a grudge. This is not an illusion, this is actually happening and some people are not taking this seriously. Oh, but if a man is subject to sexual assault like Brandon Urie was with female fans....people completely ignore it. They do the victim blaming themselves and tell him that women can't sexually assault men.

Has the whole world gone mad? 

I am not trying to discredit real victims...I am trying to stop the fakers from ruining people's lives. 

I hate the fact that people don't take facts into consideration.
Person A: "I have gay friends. How am I homophobic?"
Person B: "Just because you have gay friends does not mean you can't be homophobic."

How does it not disprove homophobia? A man support his gay friend to get married, have a life, and loves him as any friend would, but you still want to claim he is homophobic? What if I said "Just because you stick up for gay rights does not mean you can't be homophobic either if that is the case."

These people hate just to hate and frankly I am sick of it.

What next?
I am sexist just because I was born male.
I am racist just because I was born white.
I am a homophobe just because I had sex with a girl.
I am a bigot just because I disagree.

They call Vic Mignogna a homophobe because he didn't want to sign a Yaoi fan art, but forget that this dude stood up to real Homophobes ON VIDEO.


Are these people blind?

This is what I am talking about. This is what gets me angry with people today. I don't care if you voted for Hillary or Trump. I don't care what political party you are apart of. I don't care what your religious beliefs are, but when you purposely go after people to RUIN their lives because you want to feel all high and mighty with yourself....well, I have no tolerance for you. These people have no respect for anyone, but themselves. Hell, they even go after their own kind if they even say the wrong word. There is no loyalty...only narcissistic virtue. These people are out for revenge and they call it "justice."

 

It needs to stop.             

#IstandwithVic

The thing that really gets me about false allegations is that even if the allegations are proven with hard evidence to be 100% false in one or more ways, even if the accuser is found to have been lying from the beginning, and even if it gets found that the real reason for them making the accusation was for a nefarious purpose (money, 15 minutes of fame, hate for one reason or another, political agenda, etc.), that DOESN'T mean peace for the accused. The very fact that they were pointed at leaves a mark on them for the rest of their lives; people will always be wary and suspicious of them, questioning their every move, motivation, and agenda, and it's worse if the person is more well-known in various circles like Vic. Thanks to social media, despite not being "high class" Hollywood level of celebrity, he most likely won't be able to go anywhere without at least one person either knowing who he is or quickly finding out who he is, leading to word being spread around.


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Posted 07 February 2019 - 04:34 PM

The thing that really gets me about false allegations is that even if the allegations are proven with hard evidence to be 100% false in one or more ways, even if the accuser is found to have been lying from the beginning, and even if it gets found that the real reason for them making the accusation was for a nefarious purpose (money, 15 minutes of fame, hate for one reason or another, political agenda, etc.), that DOESN'T mean peace for the accused. The very fact that they were pointed at leaves a mark on them for the rest of their lives; people will always be wary and suspicious of them, questioning their every move, motivation, and agenda, and it's worse if the person is more well-known in various circles like Vic. Thanks to social media, despite not being "high class" Hollywood level of celebrity, he most likely won't be able to go anywhere without at least one person either knowing who he is or quickly finding out who he is, leading to word being spread around.

Which is the biggest tragedy in all of this?

Vic Mignogna is an innocent man. All he did was love and cherish his fanbase.

Here:


Proof that these people are making things up and targeting this man.


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Posted 07 February 2019 - 05:45 PM

What kind of evidence should we look for? Because it's hard to film or record your own assault. That's why asking for evidence is a stupid question. When someone is accused we should listen to both parties' testemonies, the history of the accused and the number of accusations.

 

I didn't believe people like James Franco, Trump or Kavanaugh. They're all bad liars. I believe George Takei. The accuser changed his story numerous times. Still can't make up my mind about Johnny Depp's case.


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Posted 12 February 2019 - 03:58 PM

Welp Ladies and Gentleman....Animegate here.

Yeup....it is her folks and it is going full force. From "Goblin Slayer is horribel for showing rape" to "Rising of a Shield Hero showing false rape allegations is fake and it needs to stop" to now even "Deku is racist."

But the spotlight today, folks, is Monica Rial. Give her a big hand. Trigglypuff is at it again going after ANYONE and filing a police report on anyone who disagrees with her and stands with Vic. No this is not a joke



She is telling people that standing up for Vic and showing proof that he did nothing wrong means you deserve to go to jail for harassment. She also states that "innocent until proven guilty" only applies in the court of law.

"Innocent until proven guilty only applies in the court of law." How insane can a person get before someone says "this persons needs a straight jacket."

Now, this is all very suspicious to me. Why would this woman, who claims that Vic sexually harassed her, have an issue with people say this and file police reports against people who show her proof that Vic is innocent? To me, it looks like she knows she is not telling the truth. She knows that what she is doing is getting her into more trouble and that she is quintupling down. This woman is so out for blood against Vic and anyone who stands for him that she is willing to go into psycho mode on Twitter (who are deleting accounts left and right on for anyone who even questions Monica Rial) if she is truly a victim? I think she is lying. I think she is a liar and she is trying to deliberately sabotage Vic in hopes that she could gain more popularity and money.

This is literally the Rising of the Shield Hero's plot in real life with Monica Rial being the princess pushing false rape allegations against him just to gain his money and more. Vic is the Shield Hero who some say will bring a new hope to the kingdom.

This is the most DISGUSTING display of humanity I have ever seen. It is one thing to leave it to the courts, but it another to continue to bash him, torture his fanbase, and then cry how harassed she is and THREATENING to file police reports on anyone who shows her evidence to the contrary.

This is Animegate and it is two sides fighting a vicious war. Vic Mignogna's side vs Monica's Rial's side....

As always, after seeing all the evidence, I stand with Vic. (who by the way urge his fans NOT to pursue against Monica Rial while Monica Rial is urging her people to go after Vic and anyone om his side.)

In the words of Star Wars:
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Luckily, Japan has no care for this garbage and they will continue to do what they want.


Monica Rial is worse than a child who stolen a cookie. When asked she cries and says "You're picking on me" even though her finger prints are all over the jar and crumbs on her face.

By the way the whole "Deku is Racist" is not a joke.
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What kind of evidence should we look for? Because it's hard to film or record your own assault. That's why asking for evidence is a stupid question. When someone is accused we should listen to both parties' testemonies, the history of the accused and the number of accusations.

 

I didn't believe people like James Franco, Trump or Kavanaugh. They're all bad liars. I believe George Takei. The accuser changed his story numerous times. Still can't make up my mind about Johnny Depp's case.

Watch the videos, sweetie. People have listened to the other side and there is no proof of Vic doing anything they are claiming he is doing. They are basically filing "sexual assault" over hugs. In fact, ONE account they claimed, the girl came out and said that no she was not sexually assaulted. She and her mom got consent from Vic himself to give her a hug and a kiss on the cheek. Do you want me to post the picture of her side of the story?

In the videos they show proof of people purposely making stuff up. Screenshots of actual conversations saying "Let's make it look like Vic is groping a 14 year old girl so that they can't disclaim it."

This is why I posted the videos. The evidence is right there.

Speaking of which, this man has went to thousands of comic-cons over the past 15 years. We are a generation that has basically movie studios in our pockets with the Iphones and Galaxy phones. You mean to tell me that not ONE person caught something? That not one person with their phone filmed Vic doing these things? Sounds suspicious. Sometimes the lack of evidence is evidence within itself.

You say you have to listen to the other side, but what about the other side that stands with Vic who says he has done nothing wrong and is a good guy? What about that side? Do they mean nothing or are you going to do what Monica Rial does and just ignore those aspects? Are you really going to ignore the other 99% of people who said "Vic did nothing wrong and I have met him multiple times."

What about Monica Rial who just before these allegations started, said she LOVED working with Vic and loved him like family. Now she says he is a villain who deserves to die. They have pictures of tweets that she deleted. Tweets that many fans have pictures of and showcase her hypocrisy. Again, check the videos I have posted. Watch them.

This is NOT a joke. This is real. This is not some random thug on the street being accused. This is an entire industry that is being attacked for something based on nothing more than hearsay with no proof backing it up.

So, Sushi, do you believe in "innocent until proven guilty" or do you live in 1642 where you are "guilty until proven innocent?" Maybe you flipflop depending on what is being said like if a man sexually assaults a woman you don't need proof other than what she says, but if a guy says he was raped by a girl, you want to have 1000 articles of proof before you can even begin to accept the idea that it may be true.

Please, for the love of god and justice, watch the videos. Look at the evidence that shows errors and listen to the people who said Vic did nothing wrong. Listen to that side just this once. Stop ignoring the other side.
 


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Posted 12 February 2019 - 09:17 PM

Definitely.

In this individual case (it always needs to be a case by case basis, not just grouping everything one way or the other), things are NOT looking good for those going after Vic. So far, I have yet to see any hard evidence (accusations and heresay are not evidence) that actually proves Vic did anything wrong whereas there is increasingly mounting evidence against those going after him.

Again, I'm all for sexual assault victims getting justice and applaud more serious attempts to treat them fairly in court rather than just assume "they had it coming" and such, but there still needs to be evidence proving the accused actually did it, and as I said before, even if it gets proven that the accused was innocent of any wrongdoing, they're marked for life, so they still get punished regardless of the outcome.

Look at the frenzy with Bill Cosby. As far as I can recall, there was no hard evidence to say for certain that he sexually assaulted ALL of those women (correct me if I'm wrong). If he admitted to doing so to one or more of them (IIRC, he did admit to one in a past court hearing), then sure, punish him for that ONE admitted crime, don't just go throwing in punishment for all of the other alleged victims that have no evidence to back up their own individual claims just because you want to believe that if he did it once, he must have done it to all the others. It's clear that much of the reason he was gone after so rabidly was due to people acting far more emotionally rather than rationally while the rest is simply a prosecutor either wanting to brag that he took down a celebrity to boost his career or didn't want to look "complicit" by not retrying after the first deadlock. (Even law experts were skeptical about there being so many women coming out so closely one after the other after the first three.)

Not to say that Cosby could not possibly be guilty for those other allegations, but simply that there is lack of evidence to prove he did, and if you can't provide the evidence, then there's no choice but to give a "Not Guilty" verdict regardless of how sorry you may feel for the alleged victims; juries are supposed to judge based on actual evidence, not emotion, political leanings, religion, etc. As much as people may not like it for one reason or another, that's how our justice system works.


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Posted 13 February 2019 - 03:30 AM

Definitely.

In this individual case (it always needs to be a case by case basis, not just grouping everything one way or the other), things are NOT looking good for those going after Vic. So far, I have yet to see any hard evidence (accusations and heresay are not evidence) that actually proves Vic did anything wrong whereas there is increasingly mounting evidence against those going after him.

Again, I'm all for sexual assault victims getting justice and applaud more serious attempts to treat them fairly in court rather than just assume "they had it coming" and such, but there still needs to be evidence proving the accused actually did it, and as I said before, even if it gets proven that the accused was innocent of any wrongdoing, they're marked for life, so they still get punished regardless of the outcome.

Look at the frenzy with Bill Cosby. As far as I can recall, there was no hard evidence to say for certain that he sexually assaulted ALL of those women (correct me if I'm wrong). If he admitted to doing so to one or more of them (IIRC, he did admit to one in a past court hearing), then sure, punish him for that ONE admitted crime, don't just go throwing in punishment for all of the other alleged victims that have no evidence to back up their own individual claims just because you want to believe that if he did it once, he must have done it to all the others. It's clear that much of the reason he was gone after so rabidly was due to people acting far more emotionally rather than rationally while the rest is simply a prosecutor either wanting to brag that he took down a celebrity to boost his career or didn't want to look "complicit" by not retrying after the first deadlock. (Even law experts were skeptical about there being so many women coming out so closely one after the other after the first three.)

Not to say that Cosby could not possibly be guilty for those other allegations, but simply that there is lack of evidence to prove he did, and if you can't provide the evidence, then there's no choice but to give a "Not Guilty" verdict regardless of how sorry you may feel for the alleged victims; juries are supposed to judge based on actual evidence, not emotion, political leanings, religion, etc. As much as people may not like it for one reason or another, that's how our justice system works.

Damn straight.

Even just using a little bit of logic can go a long way. Instead of relying too much on agendas and emotions, things need to be done with facts and evidence. This growing epidemic of false accusations and innocent men at bare minimum losing their livelihood to escalated spending 20-30 years in jail is a problem that needs to be stopped quickly. Why is it such a surprise that after a while people stop believing you? Has no one ever heard the story of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf?"

I'm sorry, but you can't just "believe the accuser." What if I accused anyone here of raping me? Should Derock, Smiter, or any one of the teams of mods instantly ban you and kick you out because of what I say regardless of any evidence?

You have to ask this one question and this is very important: A good chunk of the stories that Anime News Network and Monica Rial used as "proof" for their allegations have been PROVEN false. PROVEN to be made up. PROVEN to be a work of someone's sick and twisted game. So, if this is the case, then why should I believe any of the other allegations? How many more are fabrications? Monica Rial has been shown to be super affectionate with Vic and a part of me wants to think that Monica was jealous of Vic's fame and wanted a peace of the pie. She saw her opportunity and took it.

This is my accusations: Monica lied about Vic and all his wrong-doings because she wanted his livelihood. She was mad that Vic was more popular than her and wanted to find something to pin on him to gain fame. Just look how almost instantly after Vic was fired she picked up a lot of his jobs including the one at Rooster Teeth. She is a succubus that is using her victim card to gain ahead.

Now, with my accusation...please try and prove me wrong. I am open to being corrected, but I need more than just "You're just stretching." Prove to me that what I just said above was wrong.

For now I want to post two more videos by a youtuber that goes into even more detail with her vids on the situation. I want people to see different insights and show that it is not just the same people who believe Vic is being framed.





Don't preach about listening to both sides only to only listen to the one side yourself. I have done my research, I have looked into all the claims, and I have put forth what I have found and what others have found in evidence. It's time to actually start listening to both sides.

I will never understand why some people always assume that if I want evidence that a person raped someone that I am automatically a rape apologist. Well, with fake allegations on the rise and more and more times these people admit to faking it all...you're going to find that this is a serious matter and that evidence is needed to prove it from now on because it is causing men to be too scared to talk to girls or do anything for them because they don't want to be put in jail for 20 years for something they did not do. Is this really a surprise? How did you not see this coming? MGTOW was spawned from the Metoo movement. If metoo never happened, then MGTOW would have never occurred.

People say Chivalry is dead. Yes, chivalry is dead and Social Justice killed it. It murdered it, buried its body, and now wants to act like it was someone else's fault.

I have been quite about all of this for so long, but now I am standing up against it because this is horrible. This is no way for people to live. Men have rights too. Everyone has rights too regardless if you want them to or not.

It stopped being about justice for the victims and started to be more about an Anti-men witch hunt where crazy women are trying to get back at their previous lovers out of revenge and petty greed. They took a good idea and radicalized it...and made a belief structure behind it. It is not longer a cause, it is a religion.


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Posted 13 February 2019 - 07:05 PM

And what they don't realize (or not care about) is that actions like these only hurt actual victims in coming forward because not only will they be made a spectacle of (a lot of victims usually don't want to be in the spotlight like that due to feeling shame, embarrassment, or just plain wanting their privacy, etc.) and possibly be taken advantage of by such groups in order to keep pushing their agenda, but because of how far such groups have been taking things, that victim will probably be grilled into the ground by others due to instant doubt about her allegation. How far things go also depending on the accused.


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Posted 13 February 2019 - 08:51 PM

And what they don't realize (or not care about) is that actions like these only hurt actual victims in coming forward because not only will they be made a spectacle of (a lot of victims usually don't want to be in the spotlight like that due to feeling shame, embarrassment, or just plain wanting their privacy, etc.) and possibly be taken advantage of by such groups in order to keep pushing their agenda, but because of how far such groups have been taking things, that victim will probably be grilled into the ground by others due to instant doubt about her allegation. How far things go also depending on the accused.

 



Daredevil basically said it best.


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Posted 14 February 2019 - 01:10 AM

Do you call grown women you dont know sweetie everytime they disagree with you? You absolute waste on this earth you werent even right

I meant evidence against the accused. What you guys thought accusers should bring forth. It was obvious in the post. You act like youre rational but you tried to play smartass and belittle me with supression techniques

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Posted 14 February 2019 - 05:45 PM

Must see!

 


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Posted 15 February 2019 - 01:48 AM

Must see!

 

The more this keeps going...the more I keep wondering if Funimation is actually innocent. What I mean is, they were kind of forced to fire them and they are put in between a rock and a hard place.

I am not sure if this is true, I am just thinking about it as a possibility.
Funimation was caught between Vic and Monica. Now as a business they had a tough choice and really the only business logical way was firing Vic. Not if it because they wanted to or agree with the allegations, but rather they had to. One week is not a long enough period for an "investigation" especially something of this magnitude.

Am I saying people should not be mad at Funimation? No. They have a right to be mad. All I am saying is that I don't think Funimation really wanted to get rid of Vic...they just had to from a business standpoint.


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Posted 15 February 2019 - 08:14 AM

Vic is apparently a very devout Christian, in a field of work that majority are far leftist; most who have gone completely insane since Trump won. They probably been waiting years to get rid of him, but could never find any justification for it until now.



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Posted 15 February 2019 - 04:46 PM

/\ Really though, this is about business. Money is most definitely the largest factor here. If Vic was their one-and-only, their can-do-no-wrong megastar, then chances are they'd stand by him. They don't want to lose their cash cow.

 

However, if he negotiated high-dollar, long-term contracts that some companies might like to get out of — ie. if his star power/popularity is sinking or if they can get newer talent at lower salaries — then this is the perfect opportunity to cut him loose.

 

It makes them look good, and dumps his problems squarely in his lap. If he wants to salvage his career, then he'll have to do it with his own money and time (not the company's). Then after a few years, if his problems have faded, they can maybe hire him back at a much lower dollar amount. And he'll have to take it, because he's lost all his negotiating power.

 

While he may be a Christian, remember, these aren't churches that are throwing him out. Or fans, even. These are businesses. Their bottom line is money. And right now, Vic Mignona is bad for business. This just gives the company execs and handlers an excuse to force him out and get someone cheaper to fill his slot. 

 

Btw, please understand I'm not at all excusing anything he might have done. Just pointing out that in situations like this, it's more often about money than morality. Ultimately, they're not standing by the star or standing by the victims. They're standing by their bottom line.



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